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TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 29 2010 14:23 GMT
#521
After seeing the respect given by MorroW, I hope he does well. Best of luck, Zerg is surely no picnic. Lol.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 14:26:18
September 29 2010 14:25 GMT
#522
What I want to see now is a collection of different "WTF" comments Morrow will get in game when players he plays against realize he is playing as a Zerg :D
SyyRaaaN
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden136 Posts
September 29 2010 14:26 GMT
#523
Really - it's time to tell the truth. Idra, can't you ever shut the fuck up and give the proper credits to people who beat you? 20 years old and still a kid. What about becoming a man?

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Ozu
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden66 Posts
September 29 2010 14:32 GMT
#524
Good luck with Z MorroW, and good to see that you're doing what you feel you need to do to stay motivated and have fun instead of taking the easy way out. Hope to see you as Z in an upcoming Viking Cup!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
September 29 2010 14:32 GMT
#525
On September 29 2010 21:47 Amadi wrote:
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On September 29 2010 21:36 Hellbike wrote:
IdrA is such a bully, Morrow already said IdrA is better player than him, but he just keep pushing.


As a zerg player, I can understand. He probably got paired with someone slightly below himself in skill level and lost after seeing the opponent do a dozen mistakes, quality of which would mean autoloss if the opponent was playing Zerg.

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On September 29 2010 20:28 sadyque wrote:
On September 29 2010 20:18 Arakash wrote:
On September 29 2010 20:00 guitarizt wrote:
Maybe he can teach us to nydus.


and neural parasite :D

would be too funny if he really would come up with a neural parasite+Nydus push :D

You know what would be more funny? Cool winning GSL and Morrow starting to wtfpwn with zerg. Mb then all zerg players will shut the fuck up about balance.


They still won't, as Zerg will still be exceedingly unbalanced at lower levels of play where players do not have 850 APS. APS standing for actions per second. Where that "lower levels of play" encompasses some 99.99% of the total population of sc2.


Uhm what? Idra played horrible in the iem final. In general he is the superior player, but don't act like he never make mistakes himself.
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Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 29 2010 14:38 GMT
#526
On September 29 2010 20:59 MorroW wrote:
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On September 29 2010 17:09 IdrA wrote:
On September 29 2010 15:17 theqat wrote:
Any skeptics of MorroW's skill reading this thread, please take my word for it: outside Korea, he is in the top 5 in terms of pure Starcraft talent, period. If he went to Korea he would be among the most successful foreigners.

Other than Ret, Nony, and Idra, few or no foreigners had as much Brood War success as MorroW on the foreign scene in the past two years. This is the guy who finished second in the TSL2 ladder virtually out of the blue--just behind Idra and 417 points ahead of anyone else--when almost no one knew who he was and even fewer believed in him.



roflwhat
he cheated his way to that ladder score. it was technically within the rules but it was certainly not legit. he was nothing at bw. saying you were the third best sc1 terran outside of korea, which is arguable in itself, is like saying you're the third smartest kid in the special class.

just because sc1 progamer skill level of bar is x100000 higher than anything else in this world at anything doesnt mean sc1 top gamers outside korea shouldnt tap themselves on the shoulders for accomplishing that.
i dont wanna bring up old tsl but there were way more top foreigners dodging me than me dodging them, but obviously that never reached out to the public.

if u remove korea from sc1 it was still according to me and this is my opinion was just as competitive as the other top games were. its understandable that u see everything as being special class after living in korea playing with those sc1 progamers but in reality ur just skyrocket above and we sc1 foreigners were on the normal class


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On September 29 2010 17:17 Seam wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:12 kojinshugi wrote:
On September 29 2010 16:55 Sqq wrote:
FAO MorroW. I think one of the reason you're seen as "overrated" because of your race is the comment at IEM. IdrA - spending 12 hours a day practicing his race, and you said "I used a few hours yesterday to practice my reaper micro". It just goes to show how ridiculous Terran was \ is.


Even if he did say that, let's analyze what it is and why you're talking out of your ass:

Spending several hours practicing microing a single unit the day before

vs

Spending 12 hours a day practicing his entire race

It's like you're comparing bacon to the Olympics.


Actually, I believe his actual quote was 2 hours.

Gonna look it up, however.

i practiced it a few hours before dimaga game and then about 10 hours before the idra finals which was during the party and very early in the morning. and that straight up for 1 special build is actually alot since i didnt really have to learn anything else about my race because i already knew it, just had to practice that special opening. if u think this is short time for 1 opening then ur on my side thinking sc2 is too easy of a game aswell


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On September 29 2010 17:34 IdrA wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:30 ilbh wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:09 IdrA wrote:
On September 29 2010 15:17 theqat wrote:
Any skeptics of MorroW's skill reading this thread, please take my word for it: outside Korea, he is in the top 5 in terms of pure Starcraft talent, period. If he went to Korea he would be among the most successful foreigners.

Other than Ret, Nony, and Idra, few or no foreigners had as much Brood War success as MorroW on the foreign scene in the past two years. This is the guy who finished second in the TSL2 ladder virtually out of the blue--just behind Idra and 417 points ahead of anyone else--when almost no one knew who he was and even fewer believed in him.



roflwhat
he cheated his way to that ladder score. it was technically within the rules but it was certainly not legit. he was nothing at bw. saying you were the third best sc1 terran outside of korea, which is arguable in itself, is like saying you're the third smartest kid in the special class.



almost everyone cheated dodging koreans. anyway, he is one of the best foreigners in SC2 and you can't deny that. he is switching from T to Zerg, you should support him lol

oh i absolutely support it since it'll prove what a joke the game is right now without risking the reputation of one of the 5 remaining competitive zergs.

but people mentioning him in the same breath as me nony and ret for sc1 cannot happen, especially on the basis of that ladder.

idra u shouldnt even be compared to ret or nony since u were clearly above them aswell, just cause nony won u in whatever doesnt mean alot. but its hilariously how u can group up with them in here just to disclude me from it while we both know and think u were above all foreigners by a significant margin.
this just goes to show how hard u really wanna put me down like u always have ever since i entered the scene

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On September 29 2010 17:48 ilbh wrote:
we have to admit it is kind of retarded to switch to another race when you are at the top.
he would need a month to be good as zerg and even then he can't be sure if he would be also at the top as zerg.

so, I don't think he will keep playing as zerg. he was probably just checking/testing the race.

on my way home today from school i just felt it inside me, the spirit to just get home and practice all the damn day. i felt that spark every day playing sc1 and some periods of sc2, then ive just dropped it more and more lately with terran, why? because i dont see much room to improve in my race and i dont have many questions that practicing can answer. when i go home today i have so much to learn with zerg and i realize already how hard it will be, and thats what thrills me to practice. playing 2 hours a day with terran kept me on the top but i dont wanna win without deserving it. i wasnt super happy to win iem because i knew i wouldnt have won it if it was a fair game, i get so happy to lose and learn while winning over and over without learning anything isnt so motivating to practice. thats just who i am and thats why im eager to switch race because im pretty sure blizzard wont make the game any more difficult to play


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On September 29 2010 19:40 oZii wrote:
Agreed that this is a bit out of hand. I'm all for loving your Race but people in here are acting like its the Civil War its not that serious folks. I mean idrA played terran in SC1 and switched to Zerg and he is great player and all zergs swear by his word but really seriously in the end anyone can play whatever they want. To much elitism in here from people that aren't even close to the same level as idrA or morrow. Acting like they are protecting thier precious zerg. TT1 plays Toss most of the time but on his stream he will play Zerg and is pretty good at it. No one is bashing him. Its like Morrow is the Anti-Christ in this thread. Let him get the timings down and larvae management down. I'm sure he will do fine. Remember he pretty much does this for a living. Many people here posting are probably at work flaming him and right now Morrow is probably at home practicing non-stop putting in hours in that most people in this thread just can't do. That alone should tell you that if he does "suck" it won't be for long.

actually i go to school like most normal in sweden
ppl expect me to be this massgamer but what ive said already in this thread is that 0-2 hours every day has been enough practice to keep me on top of the scene ever since release, which is absolutely ridiculous display of how little esport sc2 actually is. ive spend about 10 times more time playing events such as tournament or clanwars than practicing and it didnt bring me down. and this is what unmotivates me to practice with the terran race

so with that way of thought i can arguably say that trying to squeeze in 3-6 hours of practice each day with zerg should compensate for the difficulty of switching race, zerg race in general and the imbalance. ofcourse it will take a while to adapt so i dont see why anyone would use my loss streak as an argument in any decision right now


My respect for you has gone up a LOT after this post.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
September 29 2010 14:38 GMT
#527
I don't get it, if SC2 is so easy, why not stick with Terran go to Korea and cash in on that 85,000 cheque? Why bother switching to Zerg to find out if it's easy? Why not dedicate more than 0-2 hours to the game and actually have a career if you're so confident you can be at the top.

On the other hand, people can play whatever race they want to for whatever reason. It's like playing a certain race means a big deal. If Zerg ever becomes imba are all Zergs going to stay noble and switch to other races to stick it to the man? Nah, you'll stick with that race because it's what you know and everyone likes to win.
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MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
September 29 2010 14:38 GMT
#528
Lots of respect for you morrow. You've handled yourself extremely professionally in this thread too even when facing some very rude comments. GL to you!
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parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1083 Posts
September 29 2010 14:47 GMT
#529
Terran imba iz destroyin' our community, so when a bruva makes it through, he deserves our respect. So, let's big it up for me main man MorroW, who has been off da T now for two days!
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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
September 29 2010 14:50 GMT
#530
On September 29 2010 23:38 dcberkeley wrote:
I don't get it, if SC2 is so easy, why not stick with Terran go to Korea and cash in on that 85,000 cheque? Why bother switching to Zerg to find out if it's easy? Why not dedicate more than 0-2 hours to the game and actually have a career if you're so confident you can be at the top.

Because money should not be the reason why you play a game. It's a reaction.
To me this seems like an obvious choice for MorroW if he doesn't really enjoy terran as much as he did in BW. The reason I play BW is the kick of adrenaline I get everytime. I have a feeling this goes for MorroW aswell. - If you don't get that kick, then it's not really worth the effort.
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
September 29 2010 14:53 GMT
#531
On September 29 2010 23:38 dcberkeley wrote:
I don't get it, if SC2 is so easy, why not stick with Terran go to Korea and cash in on that 85,000 cheque? Why bother switching to Zerg to find out if it's easy? Why not dedicate more than 0-2 hours to the game and actually have a career if you're so confident you can be at the top.

I doubt that he can just fly to SK for a month when he has to attend school. Might be a reason.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
September 29 2010 14:54 GMT
#532
On September 29 2010 23:38 dcberkeley wrote:
I don't get it, if SC2 is so easy, why not stick with Terran go to Korea and cash in on that 85,000 cheque? Why bother switching to Zerg to find out if it's easy? Why not dedicate more than 0-2 hours to the game and actually have a career if you're so confident you can be at the top.

On the other hand, people can play whatever race they want to for whatever reason. It's like playing a certain race means a big deal. If Zerg ever becomes imba are all Zergs going to stay noble and switch to other races to stick it to the man? Nah, you'll stick with that race because it's what you know and everyone likes to win.


1) All people don't play games just to win money.
2) Not everyone wants to have a full time career playing a game.
3) He's said he's a student, so presumably he have other interests as well and probably haven't got time to practice much more than he is currently doing (if he actually wants to graduate)

crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
September 29 2010 14:55 GMT
#533
Lol, my respect for morrow is absolutely blown out of the water. I already respected him a lot, but Im now a Morrow fan.


YourMom
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania565 Posts
September 29 2010 14:55 GMT
#534
MorroW said he had over 50% w/r ratio when he tried toss. I bet he tried some 4 gates action.
I'm very good at making carriers.
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
September 29 2010 14:59 GMT
#535
On September 29 2010 20:59 MorroW wrote:
idra u shouldnt even be compared to ret or nony since u were clearly above them aswell, just cause nony won u in whatever doesnt mean alot. but its hilariously how u can group up with them in here just to disclude me from it while we both know and think u were above all foreigners by a significant margin.
this just goes to show how hard u really wanna put me down like u always have ever since i entered the scene


I actually remember Idra giving you credits for being one of the better BW foreigners and a great SC2 player in an interview at IEM. He said he was suprised you were the 17th player as you should have been seeded in from the start.
Something like that.

Anyways, with all the SC2 pro's switching race, or threatening to switch race, it's good to see someone moving towards it. I'm looking forward to a replay pack once you feel you've mastered the race.
7even.Rantech
Profile Joined July 2010
Chile39 Posts
September 29 2010 14:59 GMT
#536
MorroW should make a reality show about playing zerg xD
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 15:04:18
September 29 2010 15:00 GMT
#537
Well.. I think that super good players might actually benefit from playing the unpopular race as people don´t train so much against it. If MorroW has enough APM(lol) and will the race change might be a good choice.

In a game with three races there is bound to be power fluctuations even if one of the races really is a bit UP.
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Competent
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 15:24:46
September 29 2010 15:02 GMT
#538
On September 29 2010 17:09 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 15:17 theqat wrote:
Any skeptics of MorroW's skill reading this thread, please take my word for it: outside Korea, he is in the top 5 in terms of pure Starcraft talent, period. If he went to Korea he would be among the most successful foreigners.

Other than Ret, Nony, and Idra, few or no foreigners had as much Brood War success as MorroW on the foreign scene in the past two years. This is the guy who finished second in the TSL2 ladder virtually out of the blue--just behind Idra and 417 points ahead of anyone else--when almost no one knew who he was and even fewer believed in him.



roflwhat
he cheated his way to that ladder score. it was technically within the rules but it was certainly not legit. he was nothing at bw. saying you were the third best sc1 terran outside of korea, which is arguable in itself, is like saying you're the third smartest kid in the special class.


I think I personnaly enjoy the fact that you dropped 18 % win rate now that you are on the KR ladder. Proves how people shouldn't take someone like you seriously when there are real zerg's out there on real teams like oGs and Prime.
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
September 29 2010 15:04 GMT
#539
On September 29 2010 23:55 YourMom wrote:
MorroW said he had over 50% w/r ratio when he tried toss. I bet he tried some 4 gates action.

hehe. nono i just play macro games now in practice, once i learn the basics ill get to the funk :d

madfrog giving me some serious zvz headsup right here so that should boost my improvement :D
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Nobu
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain550 Posts
September 29 2010 15:04 GMT
#540
Guys dont flame morrow for playing zerg! I think he is a great player, and if he is having fun with zerg he should play it, even if i rather to see him sticking hard to terran and moving to korea too!
The morrow hate is amazing and a bit understandable, the reaper rush made him the real anti-zerg!.

P.S: IdrA+Morrow both in the same thread = LOL.
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