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[News] NaDa, The Genius Terran, transfers to SC2

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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 17 2010 01:48 GMT
#1
e-Sport's first Grand Slam title holder, the Genius Terran NaDa, also called the "Living Legend" announced that he will be moving onto Starcraft 2. NaDa is the only one to win six individual leagues while winning 3 contests in each league, succeeding in a "Grand Slam".


NaDa was active under WeMade Fox until August, but chose not to re-contract in August so that he can transition to Starcraft 2. Representatives from WeMade have tried to re-contract with NaDa, but NaDa's will was so strong that WeMade gave up trying to re-contract with the player.

WeMade's Kim Yong Hwa said that "While we tried to recontract, there was nothing we could do because NaDa was so certain about what he wanted to do", adding that "While the void left behind by the team's Franchise star NaDa is regrettable, because he is so confident and he has a strong will, we believe that he will revive as an even bigger star. We will continue to cheer for him"

He currently lives outside the dorms, and he is practicing so that he can enter the GSL this upcoming October. He has also announced that he will be active as an individual in Starcraft 2, without belonging to a progame team. TSL and STARTALE and other Starcraft 2 teams have tried to recruit NaDa, but they have not been able to convince him.

Meanwhile, WeMade set Midas as the team's captain, and in order to lessen the void left by NaDa, they are looking to recruit players in order to prepare for the next season.

Source: http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=110610&db=issue

EDIT: The Korean article updated.
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 01:50:22
September 17 2010 01:49 GMT
#2
Wow, here they come.

EDIT: Or rather, there they go.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 15:12:21
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#3
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#4
So exciting, hopefully it reignites his esports career and he can emulate his BW success!

Aussie Terran hwaiting!
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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#5
Oh shit. Very epicly amazing.
Life is Good.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#6
Could he join team liquid? Liquid Nada sounds pretty sexy
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9018 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#7
THIS IS HUGE!!!!!!!!. Hopefully all the other Koreans will follow suit.
Sealteam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia296 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#8
It begins!
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#9
So good to see some Korean pros that have they're own opinions of how well Starcraft II will grow and we can see that there is at least some Korean hope and support for SC2 to do well.
Writer@joonjoewong
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#10

Awesome.... Nada and July, all we need is Boxer and Oov now
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Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#11
Get aScared, GSL next season is gonna be stacked.
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alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#12
Wow this is happening faster than I thought it would. The future of SC2 is bright indeed.
I am a tournament organizazer.
Tyri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany453 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#13
WOW, very nice indeed..

I guess he won't be the only one in the next weeks
celious
Profile Joined September 2009
United States195 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#14
YEAAAAAA NADA WOOOOOOO

<3 nada more then HuK sorry, huk.
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
September 17 2010 01:50 GMT
#15
Cannot wait for October <3
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
September 17 2010 01:51 GMT
#16
Probably playing terran?
and any good netizen comments?
Accer
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)319 Posts
September 17 2010 01:51 GMT
#17
Awesome news. I can't wait to see how these old school BW players revolutionize the game.
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
September 17 2010 01:51 GMT
#18
Oh man, Nada now? That's seriously exciting news :D. He looked like a little kid who was filled with wonder while he was playing vs TLO :D.

If it is true that he was that good at SC2 after playing for only 10 days...I really wonder if we are going to see a whole new tier of skill coming.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 17 2010 01:51 GMT
#19
Best of luck I guess, like July he didn't have too much left in BW aside from fame.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 17 2010 01:51 GMT
#20
This October? Oh man.

I'm waiting for Boxer now...though he would also be a great BW coach.
KTY
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
September 17 2010 01:51 GMT
#21
HOLY SHIT
The man himself

This is great news indead, looking forward to see Lee reap (yes reap, as in, cut off their heads with a scythe and take them home) some noobs in GSL season 2, it's gonna be GREAT!
O_o
Ursadon-n-Pals
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States928 Posts
September 17 2010 01:51 GMT
#22
On September 17 2010 10:50 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Could he join team liquid? Liquid Nada sounds pretty sexy


That would be absolutely amazing, but it seems like he's going to go solo.
Nothing worth having comes easy.
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
September 17 2010 01:52 GMT
#23
Wow. Really good news again for Starcraft 2, kind of a sad one for BW though...
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
September 17 2010 01:52 GMT
#24
It has begun?
Everyone needs a nemesis.
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
September 17 2010 01:52 GMT
#25
Huge news. 2 down, 1 to go.
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
September 17 2010 01:52 GMT
#26
I wonder if this will bring the attention to starcraft 2 as needed to support the GSL !
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 17 2010 01:52 GMT
#27
Lets the revolution begins !
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s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
September 17 2010 01:53 GMT
#28
OMG NADA!!!!
but doesnt he still have to do his military service that hes been putting off??
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
SaturnAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States125 Posts
September 17 2010 01:53 GMT
#29
GSL S2 hype rising!
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
September 17 2010 01:53 GMT
#30
Teamliquid should try to recruit nada.

I mean we can dream right?
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 17 2010 01:53 GMT
#31
Oh man, GSL2 is gonna be so epic.
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
September 17 2010 01:53 GMT
#32
That's it. All hope is lost for foreigners.
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
September 17 2010 01:54 GMT
#33
Thanks for the translation!
This is pretty awesome, really looking forward to the next GSL seasons now, keep the pro-gamers coming
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 17 2010 01:54 GMT
#34
This is kinda sad...You could see in recent interviews and videos he lost the fire for BW and it felt more like a job than anything else.

I guess he can still be a progamer in his 30's but when he said that I'm pretty sure he wanted it to be BW.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 17 2010 01:54 GMT
#35
On September 17 2010 10:53 s2pid_loser wrote:
OMG NADA!!!!
but doesnt he still have to do his military service that hes been putting off??


yeah anyone can answer this?
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 17 2010 01:55 GMT
#36
whoa
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Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 17 2010 01:55 GMT
#37
Oh man... I bet a lot more bw progamers might dip into sc2 if kespa gives in.
Someone send jaedong and flash a copy of SC2 so they can start practicing when bored.
Juxx
Profile Joined April 2010
325 Posts
September 17 2010 01:55 GMT
#38
On September 17 2010 10:53 FortuneSyn wrote:
That's it. All hope is lost for foreigners.

not yet, the original foriegner, the blued eyed viking, the man, the legend, GIYOM is also playing starcraft two. Do not give up hope!
Grubby Fighting!
sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
September 17 2010 01:56 GMT
#39
DAMN! My jaw just dropped now that this is FINALLY confirmed! /happy
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
September 17 2010 01:56 GMT
#40
Nada is one of the few progamers along with Reach and YellOw that withstood the test of time and is able to still play at a high level after all these years.

Great news for SC2.

I guess he didn't to play behind Mind and Midas.

Shaman.us
Profile Joined May 2010
United States319 Posts
September 17 2010 01:57 GMT
#41
This is going to be so awesome. Thanks for confirming
Shaman.233
hdkhang
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
September 17 2010 01:57 GMT
#42
This is pretty good news for GOMtv since with these big names joining up, a lot more people would be willing to subscribe and a lot more sponsors would be interested as well.
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
September 17 2010 01:57 GMT
#43
On September 17 2010 10:55 Pawshter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 10:53 FortuneSyn wrote:
That's it. All hope is lost for foreigners.

not yet, the original foriegner, the blued eyed viking, the man, the legend, GIYOM is also playing starcraft two. Do not give up hope!


Yeah, and didn't qualify for the GSL
My hopes are on TL making the most out of their time in Korea, actually keeping up with the Koreans in practice and mechanics.
O_o
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
September 17 2010 01:58 GMT
#44
Good to hear. Now to find out who the third rumoured one is.

NaDa was still doing well at BW so it will be nice to see his transition into SC2 with a bit more focus than the showmatch with TLO.
Brood War forever!
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
September 17 2010 01:58 GMT
#45
On September 17 2010 10:56 zerious wrote:
Nada is one of the few progamers along with Reach and YellOw that withstood the test of time and is able to still play at a high level after all these years.

Great news for SC2.

I guess he didn't to play behind Mind and Midas.



And Baby and Major. Weterran fox lol.
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Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
September 17 2010 01:58 GMT
#46
By this time next year sc2 is going to have taken off... a bunch of people are converting.. seeing these names come over is only enticing other players more.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 17 2010 01:58 GMT
#47
i really hope he does well in the next gsl. it would be sad to see nada switch and fail D:
Writer
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4200 Posts
September 17 2010 01:58 GMT
#48
geez... now I have to watch GSL when nada plays.
( ・´ー・`)
Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
September 17 2010 01:58 GMT
#49
Sweet! Excited to see NaDa play SC2, but sad to see him leave SCBW =[
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
September 17 2010 01:59 GMT
#50
whoo! Now that Nada is transferring, I bet Terran strategy will get a significant boost with his abiltiy to focus completely on SC2 now. =D
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kibeth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
September 17 2010 01:59 GMT
#51
On September 17 2010 10:53 s2pid_loser wrote:
OMG NADA!!!!
but doesnt he still have to do his military service that hes been putting off??


Probably why he is not joining a team or signing any contracts, he doesn't know if something is going to get thrown in his face.
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
September 17 2010 02:00 GMT
#52
Reach, Nal_Ra, Draco where are you guys? Protoss needs a saviour.
hellsan631
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States695 Posts
September 17 2010 02:01 GMT
#53
i really hope that we can find a good balance in korea between sc2 and sc:bw. i still love watching sc:bw games, and they can teach you a lot still. BW might also benefit from some sc2 strategy some day.

Some good bw pro's comming over is good news though, because it gives a lot of legitimacy to the leagues (gsl). i really hope kespa can resolve the dispute with gom/gretch.
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
September 17 2010 02:01 GMT
#54
nada <3 :D, goodluck in the next GSL
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 17 2010 02:01 GMT
#55
Alright guys, get ready for the protoss to become OP.

Seriously, this is seriously amazing news, even possibly better than Boxer switching to sc2, since Nada could beat Boxer. Nada will help the future of SC2 incrediably. OMG I CANT WAIT!!!!

Nada Hwaiting! I want replays ASAP! =D =D =D =D
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:01:50
September 17 2010 02:01 GMT
#56
This is so fucking sweet.

For those of you who haven't seen TLO vs NaDa Game 2 (on Steppes of War) from the showmatch at IEM Gamescom, check that out right this second!
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 17 2010 02:02 GMT
#57
Awesome news, can't wait to see Nada and July in action at GSL season 2 next month.
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Defeat
Profile Joined March 2010
United States476 Posts
September 17 2010 02:03 GMT
#58
Oh wow, this is awesome news :}
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Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
September 17 2010 02:03 GMT
#59
Here comes nada with his 400 apm >:D
but damn, i may have to buy the vods in October D:
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
September 17 2010 02:04 GMT
#60
NADA #1

gogogogo~
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 17 2010 02:04 GMT
#61
On September 17 2010 11:01 Pandain wrote:
Alright guys, get ready for the protoss to become OP.

Seriously, this is seriously amazing news, even possibly better than Boxer switching to sc2, since Nada could beat Boxer. Nada will help the future of SC2 incrediably. OMG I CANT WAIT!!!!

Nada Hwaiting! I want replays ASAP! =D =D =D =D



Doesn't NaDa play Terran? Not Protoss
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TekKpriest
Profile Joined March 2010
308 Posts
September 17 2010 02:04 GMT
#62
On September 17 2010 11:00 Kage wrote:
Reach, Nal_Ra, Draco where are you guys? Protoss needs a saviour.


Nal_ra wont be playing for a long time, since he needs to do his military service :<
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3102 Posts
September 17 2010 02:05 GMT
#63
Wow, the next GSL is gonna be awesome: July, Nada, IntotheRainBow...

Now seriously: quit this immature quibbling and forge a deal, Kespa/GOM...or the players will make one for you.

Now, all we need is a Boxer confirmation...?
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sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
September 17 2010 02:05 GMT
#64
On September 17 2010 10:58 prototype. wrote:
geez... now I have to watch GSL when nada plays.

Yes him participating in the next GSL would seriously convince me to get the stream pass and the VODs. His games alone would be so worth it!
leakingpear
Profile Joined March 2006
United Kingdom302 Posts
September 17 2010 02:05 GMT
#65
So how long until Reach's military service is up? It must be close to over soon.
Bujo
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark16 Posts
September 17 2010 02:05 GMT
#66
Great to see progress on the scene.. Best of luck !
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Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 17 2010 02:07 GMT
#67
wow this is pretty huge.

is he sticking with terran in sc2?

i suppose why wouldn't he ^^
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
September 17 2010 02:07 GMT
#68
that's 2 of the golden mouse winners over
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:07:35
September 17 2010 02:07 GMT
#69
On September 17 2010 11:05 leakingpear wrote:
So how long until Reach's military service is up? It must be close to over soon.


He's going back to KT. Service is over.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
September 17 2010 02:07 GMT
#70
July, NaDa, Silent_Control, Cool are ready.

Awaiting for Boxer, iloveoov, Nal_Ra (damn military service :/)
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SpavaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Croatia175 Posts
September 17 2010 02:07 GMT
#71
Man crush!
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apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
September 17 2010 02:08 GMT
#72
wow! now that's breaking news! if nada himself is shifting towards sc2, i'm sure even more korean pros will follow soon
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fevax
Profile Joined February 2010
Turkey143 Posts
September 17 2010 02:08 GMT
#73
IT BEGINS
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
September 17 2010 02:09 GMT
#74
TLAF-Liquid`NaDa imo.
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eSen1a
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1058 Posts
September 17 2010 02:09 GMT
#75
Liquid`NaDa... one can dream
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 17 2010 02:09 GMT
#76
Sweet!!! :D
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BadWithNames
Profile Joined April 2010
United States441 Posts
September 17 2010 02:09 GMT
#77
Best of luck to Nada. Count me amongst those that will cheer for him. I remember being a young lad watching fan vids of him in the infancy of youtube. It's taking everything I have not to go into full blown fanboy mode....SC2 delivers such awesome news.
One year in Seoul...yesh please
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
September 17 2010 02:09 GMT
#78
Yeeeeeees! Bring Boxer over next, then slowly bring the rest. Holy crap, NaDa!
Blah.
s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
September 17 2010 02:10 GMT
#79
Nada is sticking it to KeSPA! ^^
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
September 17 2010 02:10 GMT
#80
NaDa yay! :D
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leakingpear
Profile Joined March 2006
United Kingdom302 Posts
September 17 2010 02:10 GMT
#81
On September 17 2010 11:07 Noxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 11:05 leakingpear wrote:
So how long until Reach's military service is up? It must be close to over soon.


He's going back to KT. Service is over.


Oh tits, well that's great too, hopefully he doesn't become a coach and is never heard of again Or the PL breaks down and he's contractually obliged not to play SC2 or something stupid.
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States692 Posts
September 17 2010 02:10 GMT
#82
Awesome news, GSL 2 is going to be SICK! Your turn now Boxer :D
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
September 17 2010 02:11 GMT
#83
sexyyyyyy! cant wait to see him play
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
September 17 2010 02:11 GMT
#84
Otter Terran <3.
"It's not acceptable"
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
September 17 2010 02:12 GMT
#85
NaDa vs July GSL finals! Calling it now!

Seriously though, I don't blame him. I was very frustrated and he was probably too when WeMade refused to play him in the playoffs. Yeah he started to really slow down in early 2009, but WeMade is basically Terran and you can hardly get better than a living legend.

NaDa still has the most Broodwar OSL/MSL medals. I dream of him winning the second and third GSL and owning both games for all time success. Hopefully before Flash or JD tie him in January in BW in the OSL (surely one of them will win, well hopefully Stork of course).
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
September 17 2010 02:12 GMT
#86
TLAF-Liquid'NaDa is possible the sexiest combination of syllables that I've heard for a long time. Any chance?
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
September 17 2010 02:13 GMT
#87
Nada is going to make terran even more op than it is lol. We need Jaedong or at least some zerg like effort to start playing
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
September 17 2010 02:13 GMT
#88
Greatest player ever.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 17 2010 02:13 GMT
#89
Finally a hope to see some nice StarCraft.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 17 2010 02:14 GMT
#90
This is HUGE! Hope that these legendary players can compete will those 10-15 years younger than them in SC2.
Nada,,,,cant wait for his televised match
Terran
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
September 17 2010 02:15 GMT
#91
Oh man. I predict an age of Nada domination for many seasons.
rip passion
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:15:33
September 17 2010 02:15 GMT
#92
Wait for Boxer's announcement now. That's the one I am waiting for. If Boxer officially announces, I am exiting BW's scene forever.

Unless Bisu goes back to rage mode...
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 17 2010 02:16 GMT
#93
Now imagine how awesome it is if Nada join TL :D. He's individual now right? Come on TeamLiquid, can you somehow, recruit Nada
Terran
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
September 17 2010 02:17 GMT
#94
I wouldnt be surprised at all if Nal_Ra switches to SC2 too. I would however nerdgasm.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
September 17 2010 02:17 GMT
#95
On September 17 2010 11:16 Caphe wrote:
Now imagine how awesome it is if Nada join TL :D. He's individual now right? Come on TeamLiquid, can you somehow, recruit Nada

I doubt it's gonna happen. Not saying that TL is poor, but Nada requires a HUGE salary.
systemA
Profile Joined November 2008
95 Posts
September 17 2010 02:18 GMT
#96
July vs Nada GSL Season 2 Finals
hey its me ur brother
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
September 17 2010 02:18 GMT
#97
On September 17 2010 11:12 t3tsubo wrote:
TLAF-Liquid'NaDa is possible the sexiest combination of syllables that I've heard for a long time. Any chance?

well, if he's unwilling to join Korean teams he's probably unwilling to join TL. Someone mentioned something about military service coming up.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 17 2010 02:19 GMT
#98
On September 17 2010 11:04 Raiden X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 11:01 Pandain wrote:
Alright guys, get ready for the protoss to become OP.

Seriously, this is seriously amazing news, even possibly better than Boxer switching to sc2, since Nada could beat Boxer. Nada will help the future of SC2 incrediably. OMG I CANT WAIT!!!!

Nada Hwaiting! I want replays ASAP! =D =D =D =D



Doesn't NaDa play Terran? Not Protoss


Ahahahahah epic fail. The worst thing is i I know that. Don't know why I was thinking he was toss for that weird time... Protoss Bonjwa... I wish.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
September 17 2010 02:20 GMT
#99
good news


can't stand the "it has begun" comments though, I'd like to see at least 2-3 A-teamers switch out before even starting to think about that (and thats not happening anytime soon)
Writer
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
September 17 2010 02:20 GMT
#100
Yeeeeaaaaahhhhh!!!!!

I like that he's remaining as an independent player (at least for now). I'm imagining a tournament roster with a bunch of players that belong to teams, and then right in the middle of the list "NaDa."

Kid doesn't give a fuck about teams he'll beat them all anyway.
connoisseur
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 17 2010 02:20 GMT
#101
So

good
it's my first day
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 17 2010 02:20 GMT
#102
nooooooo!

july was one thing... nada IS brood war.
Jaedong.
LuciD`
Profile Joined September 2010
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:21:33
September 17 2010 02:20 GMT
#103
On September 17 2010 11:17 Sl4ktarN wrote:
I wouldnt be surprised at all if Nal_Ra switches to SC2 too. I would however nerdgasm.


Someone posted/said that Nal_Ra really likes SC2 but I'm having trouble finding it again. It may have even been a video interview with someone. Maybe once he's done with military service he'll jump on board .

We can dream at least.
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
September 17 2010 02:21 GMT
#104
So can we have a "Nada's Body" thread in Sc2 General?

2nd Season of GSL will be awesome. Stream , Tastosis and players getting better every day and now Nada , July and possibly Boxer?
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 17 2010 02:21 GMT
#105
korean article updated, OP updated.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
September 17 2010 02:21 GMT
#106
fucking sweeeeeeeeeeeet
edtechy
Profile Joined March 2010
Philippines30 Posts
September 17 2010 02:23 GMT
#107
AWESOME.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
September 17 2010 02:24 GMT
#108
--- Nuked ---
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
September 17 2010 02:24 GMT
#109
AH MA GAD, nada :D
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 17 2010 02:25 GMT
#110
nada has to win 2 GSL titles per year to maintain his baller salary.
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
September 17 2010 02:25 GMT
#111
NaDa fighting! i wonder if he'll join any of the established korean sc2 teams, or maybe join liquid!
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
September 17 2010 02:26 GMT
#112
Everyone currently in the GSL is collectively saying "oh shit".

Awesome news. Boxer next and my life is complete.
STX Fighting!
Brutallus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:26:14
September 17 2010 02:26 GMT
#113
So can we get the TLO v Nada HQ VODs now? :p
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:29:05
September 17 2010 02:27 GMT
#114
YES! Now we shall see the strength of a real progamer. Hope to see a Nada vs TLO match again. However, I really think he should still join a team since hes not gonna be getting salary or any money as a matter of fact unless he wins tournaments.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 17 2010 02:28 GMT
#115
On September 17 2010 10:52 lynx.oblige wrote:
It has begun?



yay! NaDa comes to rape
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
September 17 2010 02:28 GMT
#116
about time the top BW korean players come to sc2
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
September 17 2010 02:29 GMT
#117
Holy check. This is insane. Nada going to own shiz up this next GSL.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
September 17 2010 02:30 GMT
#118
If only he joined ogs. TL attack with NaDa anyone?
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
September 17 2010 02:33 GMT
#119
Hmmm, Midas is the new team captain... :D

Shame about NaDa leaving BW. T_T
Chesner
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Iceland817 Posts
September 17 2010 02:34 GMT
#120
Oh thats so awesome, first July now Nada, hope the rest will follow soon! ;D
PENGUINS
Icemind
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany570 Posts
September 17 2010 02:34 GMT
#121
I can totally see it.
Nada joining tl and together TLO and him revolutionise sc2 for years to come with their builds
... yes one can dream
Corinthos *
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
September 17 2010 02:34 GMT
#122
I hope NaDa will be playing terran in sc2 as well. Rooting for you tornado terran!
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
September 17 2010 02:36 GMT
#123
At first, I had mixed feelings; July wasn't very active, and didn't even come off the bench/come out for ace matches like NaDa did. However, his willingness to play at the ESL Cologne definitely makes me feel that he wanted to do this, and thinking of that, My wishes are completely smashed by what he wants to do. I honestly can't see anyone logically feeling any different.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
wongi
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia86 Posts
September 17 2010 02:36 GMT
#124
I have a theory on why Nada isn't on a team. What if Blizzard paid him to move over to sc2 and ask him to sign an NDA? WeMade have offered him a re-contract and he said no. TSL and other SC2 teams have offered him contracts and he said no. Now, why would you say no to getting paid to play SC2. Unless, you are already getting paid by someone else...

Even if Nada isn't getting paid by Blizzard to switch over, I think Blizzard may try this tactic to some other well known and popular BW progamers. If they do this successfully, I think BW will be on its last legs in terms of PL and they won't have to deal with the Kespa issue directly.
love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:38:28
September 17 2010 02:38 GMT
#125
wongi are you a member of the lone gunmen?

nada fightiiiing
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
September 17 2010 02:39 GMT
#126
Exciting!

Can't wait to see him play.
Kao
Profile Joined July 2010
24 Posts
September 17 2010 02:40 GMT
#127
On September 17 2010 11:36 wongi wrote:
I have a theory on why Nada isn't on a team. What if Blizzard paid him to move over to sc2 and ask him to sign an NDA? WeMade have offered him a re-contract and he said no. TSL and other SC2 teams have offered him contracts and he said no. Now, why would you say no to getting paid to play SC2. Unless, you are already getting paid by someone else...

Even if Nada isn't getting paid by Blizzard to switch over, I think Blizzard may try this tactic to some other well known and popular BW progamers. If they do this successfully, I think BW will be on its last legs in terms of PL and they won't have to deal with the Kespa issue directly.


is posible, but i think SC2 is a good move for players like Nada, July, Savior, Luxury, Hwasin...
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 17 2010 02:40 GMT
#128
On September 17 2010 11:40 Kao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 11:36 wongi wrote:
I have a theory on why Nada isn't on a team. What if Blizzard paid him to move over to sc2 and ask him to sign an NDA? WeMade have offered him a re-contract and he said no. TSL and other SC2 teams have offered him contracts and he said no. Now, why would you say no to getting paid to play SC2. Unless, you are already getting paid by someone else...

Even if Nada isn't getting paid by Blizzard to switch over, I think Blizzard may try this tactic to some other well known and popular BW progamers. If they do this successfully, I think BW will be on its last legs in terms of PL and they won't have to deal with the Kespa issue directly.


is posible, but i think SC2 is a good move for players like Nada, July, Savior, Luxury, Hwasin...

why would you group those names with nada/july?
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
September 17 2010 02:41 GMT
#129
july and now nada.. its like only my absolute favourites are switching over ~~

those 2 names alone will show us how good/balanced sc2 is in the future
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
September 17 2010 02:41 GMT
#130
Yea NaDa!!! I want to see you play again :D.
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
September 17 2010 02:41 GMT
#131
protoss and zergs be cryin'!

Nada is my man-crush
EGM guides me
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
September 17 2010 02:44 GMT
#132
NaDa's not on a team so he can keep all the earnings himself and have more freedom on his self-paced schedule, like any confident player would decide. No contracts holding players down yet with SC2, and pros like NaDa who know they can take first place in the GSL will take advantage of that. Who needs a team to pay you a crap salary when one month can bring you -- and only you -- a kajillion WON?
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
September 17 2010 02:44 GMT
#133
wemadefox is now nothing heh
POGGERS
fly.stat
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States449 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:49:17
September 17 2010 02:46 GMT
#134
Nada will destroy everyone in GSL 2.

edit: I'm fairly certain that Nada will become the best player on Earth. Sc1 pros have been doing very well in sc2, and now it's time for a real champion to show everyone how it's done. Once a Bonjwa, always a Bonjwa.
Until I write you again, take care of your precious person.
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
September 17 2010 02:46 GMT
#135
Can't wait to see replays of the tornado terran... it would be great to see a legend of the game develop strategies for a game in its infancy.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
September 17 2010 02:47 GMT
#136
Good to see the pros switching over so we can see the actual potential of the game.
Cookie
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada94 Posts
September 17 2010 02:49 GMT
#137
wow awesome news im hopeing ST will convince NaDa to join them, so both July and him will be on the same team =p
next month's gsl looks like its going to be fantastic.
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:53:00
September 17 2010 02:51 GMT
#138
On September 17 2010 11:44 Cedstick wrote:
NaDa's not on a team so he can keep all the earnings himself and have more freedom on his self-paced schedule, like any confident player would decide. No contracts holding players down yet with SC2, and pros like NaDa who know they can take first place in the GSL will take advantage of that. Who needs a team to pay you a crap salary when one month can bring you -- and only you -- a kajillion WON?


And everybody else what, back to eating ramen until the next season?

Oh yes, very healthy for e-sports.

NaDa moved on. Big deal. He is not in the SCBW peak anymore, and he wanted to remain active. This is a good decision for him, and for SCII as a spectacle. But for eSports? We have yet to see.

And how exactly is this sticking it to KeSPA (referring to a page 1-2 post).
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
Sanku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada90 Posts
September 17 2010 02:53 GMT
#139
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU NO NADA D:
# 1/0 NaDa fan. You can't get better than that./ I spell challenge with a "r"
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
September 17 2010 02:53 GMT
#140
YES NADA! He got a taste of SC2 at IEM and had to get more.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
September 17 2010 02:54 GMT
#141
On September 17 2010 11:44 konadora wrote:
wemadefox is now nothing heh

Yeah I think it's time to change my BW team icon. Maybe to ACE or something.
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
September 17 2010 02:55 GMT
#142
lol he's looking to get in on that huge prize pool. i think a lot of the brood war players are.

i'm really interested in how these brood war players are going to change sc2. i feel that because macro is easier in sc2, we're going to see micro become even more important that it was in brood war, and what separates a great player from a pro.
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
September 17 2010 02:55 GMT
#143
Hell yeah, this has me really excited. I really hope he can regain that competitive spark.

Hats off to one of the greatest, if not the greatest, gamer of all time
Every sunday a nun lays from my gunplay
Nayru
Profile Joined April 2010
United States87 Posts
September 17 2010 02:56 GMT
#144
Super awesome. Bing all your friends nada.
White-Ra: "I miss reaver, he so stupid but he kill 20 SCV!"
Cola
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
September 17 2010 02:56 GMT
#145
such good news to hear nada is moving over to the sc2 scene
i hope he comes out on the GSL for october
i was kinda sad when he lost against TLO >:T
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 17 2010 02:56 GMT
#146
Damn this is awesome. I knew it was him for one of the rumored I am so excited to see Nada playing sc2 :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
September 17 2010 02:56 GMT
#147
did nada take all his trophies home with him? or is he gonna leave them at the wemadefox house?
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
September 17 2010 02:57 GMT
#148
Meh, hope sc1:bw go on for some years. Big news for SC2 aigan!

credz to Milkis for bringing us these translated news over and over aigan! :D
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:58:35
September 17 2010 02:57 GMT
#149
and so it came to pass the best bw player ever has move on... times have changed

NADA will rape!!!!!!!!! will be the 1st triple GSL winner....
in The Kong line forever
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:58:41
September 17 2010 02:57 GMT
#150
On September 17 2010 11:40 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 11:40 Kao wrote:
On September 17 2010 11:36 wongi wrote:
I have a theory on why Nada isn't on a team. What if Blizzard paid him to move over to sc2 and ask him to sign an NDA? WeMade have offered him a re-contract and he said no. TSL and other SC2 teams have offered him contracts and he said no. Now, why would you say no to getting paid to play SC2. Unless, you are already getting paid by someone else...

Even if Nada isn't getting paid by Blizzard to switch over, I think Blizzard may try this tactic to some other well known and popular BW progamers. If they do this successfully, I think BW will be on its last legs in terms of PL and they won't have to deal with the Kespa issue directly.


is posible, but i think SC2 is a good move for players like Nada, July, Savior, Luxury, Hwasin...

why would you group those names with nada/july?


Except the latter 3 are moving to prison.

Edit: oops quoted wrong post. oh well! lol
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
September 17 2010 02:57 GMT
#151
happy to hear this..now we just need a protoss bonjwa to transfer and we'll have all 3
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
September 17 2010 03:00 GMT
#152
wow i don't know if i'm too excited or too sad, but eyes are filled with tears now.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44300 Posts
September 17 2010 03:02 GMT
#153
On September 17 2010 10:50 Wargizmo wrote:

Awesome.... Nada and July, all we need is Boxer and Oov now


Yeah! And Savi-

Awww... nevermind...

Nada + Marauders = x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3102 Posts
September 17 2010 03:04 GMT
#154
They'd better hurry up and nerf Terran, or Nada will make TvZ permanently unwinnable...
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 17 2010 03:05 GMT
#155
Two of the four players that have a golden mouse (if memory serves) have now switched to SC2.

That can't be bad!
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 17 2010 03:06 GMT
#156
On September 17 2010 11:28 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 10:52 lynx.oblige wrote:
It has begun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp5ekMlQvi4

yay! NaDa comes to rape


probably the most appropriate post in this entire thread haha

i might actually watch gsl in october omgomg <3 nada
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
September 17 2010 03:06 GMT
#157
oh my god

to watch nada own some noobs in sc2 is like my ultimate dream

0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
September 17 2010 03:07 GMT
#158
On September 17 2010 10:50 Wargizmo wrote:

Awesome.... Nada and July, all we need is Boxer and Oov now

These 4 should form their own team. Team Bonjwa! EPICNESS!!!!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 17 2010 03:08 GMT
#159
midas is going to be a sweet captain ^^
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
September 17 2010 03:08 GMT
#160
On September 17 2010 10:51 Xxio wrote:
This October? Oh man.

I'm waiting for Boxer now...though he would also be a great BW coach.


No Coach, just yet PLZ!!!!
I really wanna watch him play SC2 professionally...he will be a great Coach i agree but CANT we wait till his 50 PLZ!!!
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 17 2010 03:09 GMT
#161
Gah, as if Terran wasn't OP enough already.

; )
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
September 17 2010 03:09 GMT
#162
The day is upon us fellow nerds! All the Korean Hero's are slowly moving over, SC2 is going to be something great.
Being weak is a choice.
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
September 17 2010 03:10 GMT
#163
Can't wait to see him play again.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
September 17 2010 03:12 GMT
#164
great news! I hope boxer, flash, and jaedong come over =P
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
September 17 2010 03:12 GMT
#165
On September 17 2010 12:07 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 10:50 Wargizmo wrote:

Awesome.... Nada and July, all we need is Boxer and Oov now

These 4 should form their own team. Team Bonjwa! EPICNESS!!!!


Dont Forget Nal_ra, YellOw (Hong Jin-Ho) , Reach, Xellos, omg omg omg omg
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 17 2010 03:13 GMT
#166
not surprised at this tbh
oh well it'll be nice to see tornado terran do his thing again in a different game
Forever Young
Skee
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada702 Posts
September 17 2010 03:16 GMT
#167
Oh my god!!! I need new pants >.<
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
September 17 2010 03:19 GMT
#168
The rumors are coming true! Now it's Boxer's turn hopefully
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
September 17 2010 03:20 GMT
#169
Hello, Blizzard? we need balance patch ASAP, it's about to get heavy!
GSL season 2 will be EXTREME. Hopefully more foreigners will participate, but they need to step their game up if they want to compete with bonjwa players.
o choro é livre
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
September 17 2010 03:23 GMT
#170
Yeah.... who would have thought. players that couldnt play anymore in SC:BW are switching over.
why is everyone so freaking surpised?.
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
September 17 2010 03:23 GMT
#171
Gay gay gay gay. I wouldn't have found this because I hardly go on the SC2 section. My friend linked me this. God..........so pissed.
KT_Violet
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
September 17 2010 03:29 GMT
#172
NaDa will break Terran in GSL 2
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nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
September 17 2010 03:29 GMT
#173
(T)NaDa!!!!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
JuggaloChaz
Profile Joined March 2009
United States18 Posts
September 17 2010 03:31 GMT
#174
Just want to add to the fanboys cheering nada on, very good news to see him come to the scene. The starcraft scene just got way better.
I named my kitten gosu. I am that nerdy.
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
September 17 2010 03:33 GMT
#175
On September 17 2010 10:51 Xxio wrote:
This October? Oh man.

I'm waiting for Boxer now...though he would also be a great BW coach.


Please please please please let boxer join sc2. Pleaseeee. The pure publicity, popularity he would bring...not to mention BOXERRRRRRRR PLAYING@@@@

Best of luck to nada as long as he doesnt beat TLO :{
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
September 17 2010 03:33 GMT
#176
Damn, this is a really gutsy decision by Nada. He is the highest paid BW player in Korea, and the fact that he would turn that down, well that's just huge.

I'm really interested to see what team he plays for, or if he starts his own team. I already can't wait for the next GSL. Oh man!!
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lubu42
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States314 Posts
September 17 2010 03:35 GMT
#177
this is the beginning.....of a new era. The day Boxer switches i will give everyone on the planet 1000 dollars
SlayerS_BoxeR <3
shire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
September 17 2010 03:35 GMT
#178
is it true that Holy Check terran is indeed Nada?
i read somewhere that some one with no name used id HolyCheck and beat some highly ranked players like Tester in afreeka gisado show.
Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
September 17 2010 03:35 GMT
#179
cum
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
September 17 2010 03:38 GMT
#180
On September 17 2010 12:35 lubu42 wrote:
this is the beginning.....of a new era. The day Boxer switches i will give everyone on the planet 1000 dollars


i take paypal yo
Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
September 17 2010 03:38 GMT
#181
On September 17 2010 12:35 lubu42 wrote:
this is the beginning.....of a new era. The day Boxer switches i will give everyone on the planet 1000 dollars


paypal or check, holding you to this
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
September 17 2010 03:39 GMT
#182
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS NADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
September 17 2010 03:39 GMT
#183
Awesome. I will be cheering for Nada. He is a brilliant player.
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
September 17 2010 03:39 GMT
#184
On September 17 2010 11:00 Kage wrote:
Reach, Nal_Ra, Draco where are you guys? Protoss needs a saviour.


Sadly Nal_Ra has to do military service. Hopefully the airforce will have an sc2 team for him..
King takes Queen
reprise
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada316 Posts
September 17 2010 03:40 GMT
#185
I'll require my payment in pennies. Also, each penny is in it's separate envelope.
for graphs of passion, and charts of stars
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 17 2010 03:42 GMT
#186
omfg, i was smiling like mad that my roommate thought i went crazy xD

("my precious ... >:D)
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
September 17 2010 03:43 GMT
#187
On September 17 2010 12:35 lubu42 wrote:
this is the beginning.....of a New era. The Day BoxeR switches i will give everyone on the planet 1000 dollars


Paypal.That is all

Anyhow , NaDa switches.OMG that"s huge.Zergs all over the World are going to Rage so hard after playing him.Massive Terran Imba incoming

And plus he"s one of the Highest paid BW player on the Scene.Shows it"s more than just about money.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
September 17 2010 03:44 GMT
#188
On September 17 2010 12:33 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Damn, this is a really gutsy decision by Nada. He is the highest paid BW player in Korea, and the fact that he would turn that down, well that's just huge.

I'm really interested to see what team he plays for, or if he starts his own team. I already can't wait for the next GSL. Oh man!!

and u really think he was still the highest paid BW player in korea?
he didnt let his 3 year 600k contract or whatever down. he got way less...
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
September 17 2010 03:44 GMT
#189
Also how Long is Nal_ra"s military Term?

In the series he kept saying that it was 4 weeks but i read somewhere that koreans mandatory military service is around 21 months?
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 17 2010 03:45 GMT
#190
On September 17 2010 12:44 pyro19 wrote:
Also how Long is Nal_ra"s military Term?

In the series he kept saying that it was 4 weeks but i read somewhere that koreans mandatory military service is around 21 months?

21 months. 4 weeks is just basic training.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
September 17 2010 03:46 GMT
#191
On September 17 2010 12:45 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 12:44 pyro19 wrote:
Also how Long is Nal_ra"s military Term?

In the series he kept saying that it was 4 weeks but i read somewhere that koreans mandatory military service is around 21 months?

21 months. 4 weeks is just basic training.


:O Thanks!
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
StifSokSamurai
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States120 Posts
September 17 2010 03:46 GMT
#192
Only this site can present news to me that will make me squeal like a 3rd grade school girl within tenths of a second of reading.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
September 17 2010 03:46 GMT
#193
jaedong and flash coming to sc2?

one can dream.....
Krayze
Profile Joined May 2009
United States213 Posts
September 17 2010 03:48 GMT
#194
Yeaaaaaaaa !!

Every new pro gamer transferring to SC2 is a total win!!
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
September 17 2010 03:55 GMT
#195
Team Liquid to recruit nada
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FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
September 17 2010 03:59 GMT
#196
how did he get the nickname otter terran?
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 17 2010 03:59 GMT
#197
Fuck yeah Nada. :D
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
September 17 2010 03:59 GMT
#198
Well well well, the next GSL is going to be pretty interesting I guess. I'm kind of glad TL and the other foreigners like TorcH got a chance to get experience in the first one before all the ultramen hit.

Appart from anything else, I'll be fascinated to see what BW progamers actually do with SC2. One of the most interesting things for me anyway is watching how WC3 graduates have a different approach to aspects of the game compared to SC/BW warriors.

Very exciting all round!
Dance those ultras
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 17 2010 04:00 GMT
#199
On September 17 2010 12:35 lubu42 wrote:
this is the beginning.....of a new era. The day Boxer switches i will give everyone on the planet 1000 dollars


Paypal. Only 100 will be okay.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
September 17 2010 04:02 GMT
#200
kinda sad how much he had to give up for this.
He couldve had an easy military life and earned couple more 100k's if he stayed on sc1...

I take it as hes really fired up for this and wish him the best of luck.
Play Terran
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
September 17 2010 04:04 GMT
#201
Hehe, i get nerd chills just thinking about flash playing this game.

NaDa should be able to become top 10 in a months time
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
September 17 2010 04:06 GMT
#202
My pants have been imploded.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
September 17 2010 04:08 GMT
#203
Nada took a game off of TLO only playing for 10 days. Can't wait to see what he does with practice.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 17 2010 04:09 GMT
#204
NaDa gonna beast on some kids! Interesting that hes choosing to go solo..
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 17 2010 04:09 GMT
#205
Nada: The real Mr. October
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Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
September 17 2010 04:10 GMT
#206
Gogogo Nada - like other people have said, would love to see Boxer make the jump
Day9 Made Me Do It
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
September 17 2010 04:11 GMT
#207
Can't wait to see him playing x)
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33371 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 04:31:18
September 17 2010 04:14 GMT
#208
Nada casually turning down StarTale and TSL, because even though they're the biggest players in SC II so far, he knows that by himself he's already bigger than them and the entire Korean SC II scene combined. Why go to work with small fries operating like BW teams in 2001, when he could just go out and grab a bigger sponsorship than anyone combined through his reputation alone?

Hell, other teams better make sure to tie their players under contract before Nada and his sponsored team raid the shit out of them -_-


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Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
September 17 2010 04:19 GMT
#209
On September 17 2010 10:50 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Could he join team liquid? Liquid Nada sounds pretty sexy


It does indeed ^^
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
-Genome-
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia156 Posts
September 17 2010 04:22 GMT
#210
100% paying to watch GSL2, nada & july by themselves are easily worth that.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 04:27:21
September 17 2010 04:24 GMT
#211
On September 17 2010 11:51 VManOfMana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 11:44 Cedstick wrote:
NaDa's not on a team so he can keep all the earnings himself and have more freedom on his self-paced schedule, like any confident player would decide. No contracts holding players down yet with SC2, and pros like NaDa who know they can take first place in the GSL will take advantage of that. Who needs a team to pay you a crap salary when one month can bring you -- and only you -- a kajillion WON?


And everybody else what, back to eating ramen until the next season?

Oh yes, very healthy for e-sports.

NaDa moved on. Big deal. He is not in the SCBW peak anymore, and he wanted to remain active. This is a good decision for him, and for SCII as a spectacle. But for eSports? We have yet to see.

And how exactly is this sticking it to KeSPA (referring to a page 1-2 post).

When did I ever say anything about eSports and independency of players being healthy for it? What you sniffin', boy? I said he's confident he can win, so he's not bothering with the clutter that comes with contracts.

*EDIT* Waxangel said it nicely. He's bigger than teams right now, so why bother with 'em?

OUBLE EDIT* Does anyone have a good scene they can post from a movie, where some character or army sees an impossible-to-beat foe and just drops everything and gives up? No Kerrigan, please. That's the easy response. We need an army just collectively dropping their swords or guns or something.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
September 17 2010 04:24 GMT
#212
Not this bittersweet feeling again! ):
Oh well, glad to see him in action at least :D
R.I.P. Nujabes ♫
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
September 17 2010 04:25 GMT
#213
I think it makes sense that he doesn't want to join a team. He's got money, and he's really got to be sick of practicing all day in a team house with teenagers by now. Plus no one can bench him, or make him GG out of a showmatch. I bet at some point he joins a team like oGs or STARTALE though, if only to make some cash with sponsorships. Plus, it must suck to go to a tournament all alone.

Damn, he gave TLO all he could handle with just 10 days of casual practice. I'm super pumped to see what he can do for real.
I deadlift for Aiur
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
September 17 2010 04:28 GMT
#214
Liquid`NaDa
Commentator
Zamiel
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States211 Posts
September 17 2010 04:29 GMT
#215
well ill be the first in the thread to say this, im sure there are tons of others thinking it ^_^_^_^

not to sound like a hater to all the nada/july fanboys, but I'll personally be a lot more excited when some good current BW players switch over and not hasbeens
"Mech is at the store buying groceries and you attack him at home. You burn his house down. And then he comes home and puts out the fire, and then you burn down the grocery store so he can't buy more groceries."
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 04:31:46
September 17 2010 04:31 GMT
#216
On September 17 2010 13:28 GTR wrote:
Liquid`NaDa

I really don't think this will happen.

Edit: You were probably joking anyway, idk. Don't mind me.
connoisseur
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
September 17 2010 04:31 GMT
#217
On September 17 2010 13:08 Gentso wrote:
Nada took a game off of TLO only playing for 10 days. Can't wait to see what he does with practice.

This is exaggerated NaDa has been playing SC2 almost as long as David Kim. The progamers from korean that attended blizzcon got to try it out before anyone and He already knew what was up when I saw my playing with SaviOr last year. He had 10 days of Practicing post launch maybe but I guarantee you he'd played several hundred games before that show match. This being said Liquid`NaDa must happen. Nazgul think of the TL Children. and TLAF THINK OF THE MONIESSSSSS
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
September 17 2010 04:31 GMT
#218
On September 17 2010 12:44 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 12:33 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Damn, this is a really gutsy decision by Nada. He is the highest paid BW player in Korea, and the fact that he would turn that down, well that's just huge.

I'm really interested to see what team he plays for, or if he starts his own team. I already can't wait for the next GSL. Oh man!!

and u really think he was still the highest paid BW player in korea?
he didnt let his 3 year 600k contract or whatever down. he got way less...


Well in Korea they are very tight lipped about salaries, but based on Wemade's response, I would assume that they were prepared to pay that same amount to him again. Maybe Korea is different, but in America it is extremely rare that a company will even consider bringing up the idea of a pay cut, they will fire an employee first.

Either way, he must be confident in his ability at SC2, since there still is no proffesional teams where players recieve a salary, it's not very stable atm.
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teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
September 17 2010 04:32 GMT
#219
On September 17 2010 13:14 Waxangel wrote:
Nada casually turning down StarTale and TSL, because even though they're the biggest players in SC II so far, he knows that by himself he's already bigger than them and the entire Korean SC II scene combined. Why go to work with small fries operating like BW teams in 2001, when he could just go out and grab a bigger sponsorship than anyone combined through his reputation alone?

Hell, other teams better make sure to tie their players under contract before Nada and his sponsored team raid the shit out of them -_-



That would be pretty awesome, Nada forming his own team, then recruiting Boxer and other former big-names to join.
theBlues
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
El Salvador638 Posts
September 17 2010 04:36 GMT
#220
News like this, first July, now Nada, If I were in clan liquid I would win the GSL while foreigners still have a chance...
Change a vote, and change the world
envee
Profile Joined February 2010
United States27 Posts
September 17 2010 04:38 GMT
#221
Can't wait to see NaDa action in SC2 his creativity is about to change meta-game With some practice NaDa will most likely transition quickly and move to the top in SC2! I mean after little practice he could hang with TLO. Welcome NaDa!
Relickey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States145 Posts
September 17 2010 04:45 GMT
#222
I sure hope the Koreans won't swarm together and use their practically already existing infrastructure to create amazing SC2 pro teams that will be able to stomp any sort of USA proteam we have at the moment.
Beaches and shores
nukkuj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
September 17 2010 04:46 GMT
#223
Yay! Great news, looking forward to next GSL.
Nithix
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States184 Posts
September 17 2010 04:46 GMT
#224
Posting in an epic thread. NaDa fighting!
Not even death can save you from me. - Diablo
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 17 2010 04:48 GMT
#225
IT HAS BEGUN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp5ekMlQvi4&feature=related
savior did nothing wrong
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 04:50:29
September 17 2010 04:49 GMT
#226
holy fuck next season is going to be INSANE

SC2: If it's good enough for NaDa...
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
September 17 2010 04:50 GMT
#227
On September 17 2010 13:31 iSiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 13:08 Gentso wrote:
Nada took a game off of TLO only playing for 10 days. Can't wait to see what he does with practice.

This is exaggerated NaDa has been playing SC2 almost as long as David Kim. The progamers from korean that attended blizzcon got to try it out before anyone and He already knew what was up when I saw my playing with SaviOr last year. He had 10 days of Practicing post launch maybe but I guarantee you he'd played several hundred games before that show match. This being said Liquid`NaDa must happen. Nazgul think of the TL Children. and TLAF THINK OF THE MONIESSSSSS


Uhmm, no. You are so misinformed.

Nada was paid to practice BW. You don't practice SC2 in house because you aren't paid to do it. Idra received permission from CJ to practice SC2.

As for Nada playing hundreds of game ... LMAO. If you watched Nada's Build Order against TLO and unit usage, Nada had no clue what he was doing. The only thing Nada had going for him was superior micro and macro against TLO, which helped Nada take a game off of TLO.

In other words, against TLO:

Nada's APM, micro, macro = Top Diamond

but Nada's Build Order, Unit Useage, understanding of SC2 = copper level
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
September 17 2010 04:53 GMT
#228
Good luck to him! Hope he'll pwn some ass. :D
화이팅
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States747 Posts
September 17 2010 04:55 GMT
#229
This is really excited news.
omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
September 17 2010 04:58 GMT
#230
On September 17 2010 13:50 StarcraftMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 13:31 iSiN wrote:
On September 17 2010 13:08 Gentso wrote:
Nada took a game off of TLO only playing for 10 days. Can't wait to see what he does with practice.

This is exaggerated NaDa has been playing SC2 almost as long as David Kim. The progamers from korean that attended blizzcon got to try it out before anyone and He already knew what was up when I saw my playing with SaviOr last year. He had 10 days of Practicing post launch maybe but I guarantee you he'd played several hundred games before that show match. This being said Liquid`NaDa must happen. Nazgul think of the TL Children. and TLAF THINK OF THE MONIESSSSSS


Uhmm, no. You are so misinformed.

Nada was paid to practice BW. You don't practice SC2 in house because you aren't paid to do it. Idra received permission from CJ to practice SC2.

As for Nada playing hundreds of game ... LMAO. If you watched Nada's Build Order against TLO and unit usage, Nada had no clue what he was doing. The only thing Nada had going for him was superior micro and macro against TLO, which helped Nada take a game off of TLO.

In other words, against TLO:

Nada's APM, micro, macro = Top Diamond

but Nada's Build Order, Unit Useage, understanding of SC2 = copper level


That does not mean that he did not play it every once and awhile when he got the chance. Nada's Build Order, Unit Useage, understanding of SC2 was far above copper level lol. Yes Nada is good but people need to give TLO some more credit, even when Nada gets great at SC2 I will bet TLO can still take games off of him.
THIS NEEDS FACE!
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 05:17:07
September 17 2010 05:00 GMT
#231
Nada leaves BW while he is still the greatest BW player (possibly Flash and even Jaedong could reach higher status in the future). I guess his motive is the bigger money/perspective he sees in SC2.
edit: rethinking that image, Nada on a horse (well, pony) - he joins the TLAF riders? :D
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
September 17 2010 05:02 GMT
#232
Oh finally its official. He told me after our showmatch that he wants to play SC2 soon, maybe in GSL. Was really hard to not go out there and shout it out loud :D

looking forward to playing him again!
Team Liquidalea iacta est
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 05:05:22
September 17 2010 05:04 GMT
#233
Next is Boxer himself!
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 05:06:43
September 17 2010 05:05 GMT
#234
On September 17 2010 14:04 StarcraftMan wrote:
Next is Boxer himself!


Hehe, you edited that fast, so I'll edit mine to respect your wishing to not say that right after TLO said something
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Ancient.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania621 Posts
September 17 2010 05:05 GMT
#235
On September 17 2010 14:02 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Oh finally its official. He told me after our showmatch that he wants to play SC2 soon, maybe in GSL. Was really hard to not go out there and shout it out loud :D

looking forward to playing him again!

Interesting. Can you scoop things out and find out what other big names are planning to switch ? :d
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
September 17 2010 05:07 GMT
#236
OMG this is beyond exciting!!!
Nerf MMMT!!! Liquid`Ret Hwaiting!!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50120 Posts
September 17 2010 05:09 GMT
#237
On September 17 2010 14:02 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Oh finally its official. He told me after our showmatch that he wants to play SC2 soon, maybe in GSL. Was really hard to not go out there and shout it out loud :D

looking forward to playing him again!


and we look forward to watching you play him again.

:D
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iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 05:14:13
September 17 2010 05:10 GMT
#238
On September 17 2010 13:50 StarcraftMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 13:31 iSiN wrote:
On September 17 2010 13:08 Gentso wrote:
Nada took a game off of TLO only playing for 10 days. Can't wait to see what he does with practice.

This is exaggerated NaDa has been playing SC2 almost as long as David Kim. The progamers from korean that attended blizzcon got to try it out before anyone and He already knew what was up when I saw my playing with SaviOr last year. He had 10 days of Practicing post launch maybe but I guarantee you he'd played several hundred games before that show match. This being said Liquid`NaDa must happen. Nazgul think of the TL Children. and TLAF THINK OF THE MONIESSSSSS


Uhmm, no. You are so misinformed.

Nada was paid to practice BW. You don't practice SC2 in house because you aren't paid to do it. Idra received permission from CJ to practice SC2.

As for Nada playing hundreds of game ... LMAO. If you watched Nada's Build Order against TLO and unit usage, Nada had no clue what he was doing. The only thing Nada had going for him was superior micro and macro against TLO, which helped Nada take a game off of TLO.

In other words, against TLO:

Nada's APM, micro, macro = Top Diamond

but Nada's Build Order, Unit Useage, understanding of SC2 = copper level

Oh thats right you were in my head and just tricked me into seeing NaDa and SaviOr playing SC2 for HOURS at blizzcon. Think what you want NaDa played a lot more than "10 days casually".
Also you ignored the most important part of my post He had 10 days of Practicing post launch maybe. The game is WAY different now than it was in Alpha and Beta just remember that.

edit: Also TLO coax him to Team Liquid with german beer and Korean Barbecue...damnit he can already get that.
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
Archmage
Profile Joined November 2008
United States169 Posts
September 17 2010 05:11 GMT
#239
Holy shit! This is happening rather fast! Go NaDa!
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 17 2010 05:13 GMT
#240
Looking forward to see NaDa play more SC2.
agtemd
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada362 Posts
September 17 2010 05:23 GMT
#241
This might be the tipping point for me to get a gsl season pass after all these bw pros switching. I wanna see what they can do especially since sc2 is my first serious rts and have realyl only known about the bw scene within the last year.

NaDa Fighting!!!!!
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 17 2010 05:25 GMT
#242
On September 17 2010 14:02 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Oh finally its official. He told me after our showmatch that he wants to play SC2 soon, maybe in GSL. Was really hard to not go out there and shout it out loud :D

looking forward to playing him again!


thats just awesome man :D

greatest bw player ever! Lee Yun Yeol fighting ^_^
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
September 17 2010 05:26 GMT
#243
On September 17 2010 11:00 Kage wrote:
Reach, Nal_Ra, Draco where are you guys? Protoss needs a saviour.



Tester....
http://www.starcraftdream.com
blitzkrieger
Profile Joined September 2010
United States512 Posts
September 17 2010 05:28 GMT
#244
Noooooo the chances of me becoming a top programer are increasingly decreasing!!!!!!

And to think, I spent all that time getting to diamond.

/sarcasm

I wonder how good they are gonna be? Just destroy everyone?
gm.tOSS
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany898 Posts
September 17 2010 05:30 GMT
#245
On September 17 2010 10:48 Milkis wrote:
He currently lives outside the dorms, and he is practicing so that he can enter the GSL this upcoming October. He has also announced that he will be active as an individual in Starcraft 2, without belonging to a progame team. TSL and STARTALE and other Starcraft 2 teams have tried to recruit NaDa, but they have not been able to convince him.

awesome :D way to go NaDa!
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 17 2010 05:31 GMT
#246
On September 17 2010 10:50 Zelniq wrote:
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Why yes, this is relevant to my interests.

I can't wait to see Nada in SC2. Anyone know which race the Tornado Terran plays?
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Kantutan
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1319 Posts
September 17 2010 05:32 GMT
#247
On September 17 2010 14:31 MangoTango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 10:50 Zelniq wrote:
[image loading]

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Why yes, this is relevant to my interests.

I can't wait to see Nada in SC2. Anyone know which race the Tornado Terran plays?


He played Terran in the showmatch vs TLO and I see no reason for him to switch, so.
Younity
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1 Post
September 17 2010 05:33 GMT
#248
I hope TLO has inspired many players to start the transition to SC2
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 17 2010 05:35 GMT
#249
On September 17 2010 14:32 Kantutan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 14:31 MangoTango wrote:
On September 17 2010 10:50 Zelniq wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]


Why yes, this is relevant to my interests.

I can't wait to see Nada in SC2. Anyone know which race the Tornado Terran plays?


He played Terran in the showmatch vs TLO and I see no reason for him to switch, so.


No teason for Nada to switch? I got a reason.

No Vultures in SC2.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
TekKpriest
Profile Joined March 2010
308 Posts
September 17 2010 05:39 GMT
#250
On September 17 2010 14:35 MangoTango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 14:32 Kantutan wrote:
On September 17 2010 14:31 MangoTango wrote:
On September 17 2010 10:50 Zelniq wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]


Why yes, this is relevant to my interests.

I can't wait to see Nada in SC2. Anyone know which race the Tornado Terran plays?


He played Terran in the showmatch vs TLO and I see no reason for him to switch, so.


No teason for Nada to switch? I got a reason.

No Vultures in SC2.


How about the "Blue Flame Terran" ?

na just kidding, he will stay T for sure.
A Man chooses, a slave obeys
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
September 17 2010 05:42 GMT
#251
Can't wait to see NaDa smashing face like back in '06.
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
September 17 2010 05:45 GMT
#252
This is such a huge news! Nada is the legend.
I hope he can transfer everything he has to sc2 and become as strong as he was!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 17 2010 05:46 GMT
#253


Good thing Baby has Midas to tutor from still.
In the woods, there lurks..
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 17 2010 05:48 GMT
#254
what are the netizen reactions to this? a mix like on TL, or more swinging one way or the other?
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
September 17 2010 05:56 GMT
#255
Mind should switch over too.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
September 17 2010 05:59 GMT
#256
xHydrax said that an unknown protoss played in gisado KoTH. He mentioned that they think it may have been boxer. So there, protoss now have a big BW pro.
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 06:19:04
September 17 2010 06:05 GMT
#257
Great news for SC2. Hopefully NaDa can show people how blob vs blob battles in SC2 don't even compare to his 5 pronged 400 apm attack.
TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
September 17 2010 06:10 GMT
#258
This is so awesome! Tornadoterran fighting~
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
September 17 2010 06:14 GMT
#259
First July, now Nada... The Saiyans have arrived!

[image loading]
Hmph! How could B-team Saiyans lose to players with such low power level?
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
September 17 2010 06:19 GMT
#260
On September 17 2010 15:14 ironchef wrote:
First July, now Nada... The Saiyans have arrived!

[image loading]
Hmph! How could B-team Saiyans lose to players with such low power level?


that is clever.

I like.
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
September 17 2010 06:19 GMT
#261
This line-up is starting to look like BW 2.0 Can't be a bad thing, great players make for great games. And it will hype up the eSports scene for SC2.
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
September 17 2010 06:20 GMT
#262
On September 17 2010 15:14 ironchef wrote:
First July, now Nada... The Saiyans have arrived!

[image loading]
Hmph! How could B-team Saiyans lose to players with such low power level?


Goku = IdrA? Defending planet White SC2 from the Super Saireans.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
September 17 2010 06:22 GMT
#263
Expected, but still WOOOOOOO my favorite Terran (and i hate terrans usually) switches!
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Kaptein[konijn]
Profile Joined August 2005
Netherlands110 Posts
September 17 2010 06:27 GMT
#264
Nada is one of the greatest players ever, but can anyone tell me what tournaments he's won since 2008? Isn't he a bit over the hill and getting old? I haven't followed the bw pros for a while..
JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
September 17 2010 06:28 GMT
#265
On September 17 2010 15:14 ironchef wrote:
First July, now Nada... The Saiyans have arrived!

[image loading]
Hmph! How could B-team Saiyans lose to players with such low power level?

Unfortunately for these ex legends turned B teamers turned sc2ers, TLO is OVER 9000!!!! :D
Eartz
Profile Joined September 2010
France54 Posts
September 17 2010 06:30 GMT
#266
that's awesome, can't wait to see NaDa vs Idra, NaDa vs WhiteRa ...

great news
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
September 17 2010 06:30 GMT
#267
On September 17 2010 15:27 Kaptein[konijn] wrote:
Nada is one of the greatest players ever, but can anyone tell me what tournaments he's won since 2008? Isn't he a bit over the hill and getting old? I haven't followed the bw pros for a while..


He hasn't won any major tourneys since 2008 but did lose a very close series to Jangbi in MSL.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
September 17 2010 06:35 GMT
#268
Man if Nal_Ra or reach would switch to sc2 :D:D
Damn my internet failed yesterday at home and here at work I see NaDa transitioned to sc2 :OOO

My morning spirit hasn't been so high since quite a while :D
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Zonel
Profile Joined May 2010
United States100 Posts
September 17 2010 06:38 GMT
#269
GSL S2 is going to be SWEET. July and Nada I cannot wait!
GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
September 17 2010 06:38 GMT
#270
FUCK YEAH!!!

but I hope gretech und kespa find a good solution that SCBW can be continued....
"Successful people don't talk much. They listen and take action."
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
September 17 2010 06:41 GMT
#271
YES! My favourite Terran :d

LEE YUN YEOL HWAITING!
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
September 17 2010 06:42 GMT
#272
omg finally its official !!! screw the rumors ... time to party . NaDa owning Sc2. too bad I play Zerg . If I were a programmer in the Kespa top 10 I would show this news to my team and demand a 100% Raise. If I were Flash/JD I would demand a 500% raise .

I guess we will see more players switch.. whats the point sitting the whole season on a bench despite practicing 10hrs a day ?... None.

I hope the team structure and a PL will still be kept in Sc2
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
September 17 2010 06:42 GMT
#273
Holy shit its for real now!
He made the right choice, better chance for him to win lots of money in SC2 than in SC1, he has to start worrying about joining the military soon anyway and might as well make as much as he can.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
ShLiM
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria178 Posts
September 17 2010 06:43 GMT
#274
when does exactly gsl 2 starts?
IBASI ZMIQTA
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
September 17 2010 06:44 GMT
#275
Nada...

I hope you will do well in SC2.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10304 Posts
September 17 2010 06:44 GMT
#276
Amazing news ! guess sometimes the rumours ARE true?

NaDa vs July GSL finals anyone? *drools*
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
September 17 2010 06:45 GMT
#277
Now that July and Nada are confirmed, what about that rumor of Boxer going to SC2 as well? THIS IS SO AWESOME!
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 17 2010 06:46 GMT
#278
On September 17 2010 15:42 smileyyy wrote:
I guess we will see more players switch.. whats the point sitting the whole season on a bench despite practicing 10hrs a day ?... None.

ummm, they get fed, paid and have somewhere to sleep. SC2 has almost 0 job security atm for progamers.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
September 17 2010 06:47 GMT
#279
We should enjoy these couple of weeks we have left for the non-koreans will never set foot in the top 200 again.

We make signature, then defense it.
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
September 17 2010 06:49 GMT
#280
Nada should be recruited by TL imo.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
September 17 2010 06:52 GMT
#281
LOVE IT!
this and the news of julyzerg transfering are both making me very happy for the potential of the SC2 scene!
GoDannY
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany442 Posts
September 17 2010 06:53 GMT
#282
I hope to see some Protoss switching, too. Great news indeed!
Team LifeStyle - it's more than a game
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
September 17 2010 06:53 GMT
#283
holy crap Nada, the one man team.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 07:01:46
September 17 2010 06:54 GMT
#284
On September 17 2010 11:00 Kage wrote:
Reach, Nal_rA, Draco where are you guys? Protoss needs a saviour.

Draco actually started playing sc2 ~month ago... Have played against him twice in ladder :b
http://sc2ranks.com/eu/265539/Draco
Anyways this is awesome! NaDa fightning!!!
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smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
September 17 2010 06:55 GMT
#285
On September 17 2010 15:46 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 15:42 smileyyy wrote:
I guess we will see more players switch.. whats the point sitting the whole season on a bench despite practicing 10hrs a day ?... None.

ummm, they get fed, paid and have somewhere to sleep. SC2 has almost 0 job security atm for progamers.


I mean for players with the mindset like NaDa who actually want to play on a stage and win .. I do understand your point that the way the gsl is run it will attract "money hunters" poor guys who will live on ramen only. :o
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 17 2010 06:56 GMT
#286
OMG,
It'll be epic if we can get NaDa to TLAF'Liquid
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 17 2010 06:57 GMT
#287
I approve.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10304 Posts
September 17 2010 06:57 GMT
#288
On September 17 2010 14:02 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Oh finally its official. He told me after our showmatch that he wants to play SC2 soon, maybe in GSL. Was really hard to not go out there and shout it out loud :D

looking forward to playing him again!


NaDa might be one of the biggest legends in starcraft of ALL time, but i will still cheer for you if you play against him again <3
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
September 17 2010 07:07 GMT
#289
On September 17 2010 14:02 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Oh finally its official. He told me after our showmatch that he wants to play SC2 soon, maybe in GSL. Was really hard to not go out there and shout it out loud :D

looking forward to playing him again!

Lol, omg. If I talked to NaDa I´d piss my pants! ^^
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 17 2010 07:09 GMT
#290
Oh my gawd.

This is insane. First July now NaDa :O!!!!!
futoM4ki
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany73 Posts
September 17 2010 07:13 GMT
#291
YEAH!!! This is soooooo awesome!!! \o/

Oh man, I want to see Boxer going to SC2 as well ó_ò
Do you really want chat rooms?
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
September 17 2010 07:13 GMT
#292
Poster boys like July and Nada switching over is the boost SC2 needs for Korean fans to recognize it as BW's successor. If this helps SC2 e-sports take off, I'm all for it.
But why doesn't Nada want to join a team? Wouldn't it help his training?
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
September 17 2010 07:15 GMT
#293
GO NADA! i hope you'll succeed in SC2 just like in BW
yoyo!
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 17 2010 07:17 GMT
#294
July, now Nada... Insane, also I find it funny how none of the progamers want to be with eachother (fuck if tester nada july teamed up they could be powerhousing the sc2 scene no problem). Also, I think nada will be a super monster in sc2, his handspeed was so amazing for sc1 but he lost desire to do well in the game. So with his new interest I hope he will succeed
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
September 17 2010 07:19 GMT
#295
good news
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 07:23:52
September 17 2010 07:19 GMT
#296
My brain just asploaded, I'll fanboy all over this.

[edit]

It's almost absurd, I was really tired and bored at work like two minutes ago then I read this thread and now I'm just bursting with energy.
bobhund
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden364 Posts
September 17 2010 07:20 GMT
#297
This is awsome news! Welcome to SC2 NaDa!
Editor in chief at Rakaka.se
MuuMuuKnight
Profile Joined February 2010
Thailand107 Posts
September 17 2010 07:23 GMT
#298
Good news,but now I'm curious about what the Korean's reaction to this.
WARNING:I'm allergic to cheese. Syndrome; Rage, QQ, and your race OP
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
September 17 2010 07:24 GMT
#299
On September 17 2010 15:56 Abenson wrote:
OMG,
It'll be epic if we can get NaDa to TLAF'Liquid


Any reason why he'd want to be on liquid?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
September 17 2010 07:24 GMT
#300
Yeh great news, and I bet people still says BW isnt dying...

As soon as contracts are up even more players will defect over. Looking for some top Protosses and Zerg's to come over to put terran finally in their place!!! probably not great that nada came over anyway then lol
Live and Let Die!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 17 2010 07:26 GMT
#301
Allow me this moment of satisfaction to purr into this thread.

Puurrrrrrr
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 17 2010 07:28 GMT
#302
Well just from watching tester and cool play, you know July and Nada will be beastly once they get into their groove, it will be sick to watch, and hopefully our non-koreans can still keep up :D
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
September 17 2010 07:29 GMT
#303
Nada fighting!
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 07:30:41
September 17 2010 07:29 GMT
#304
OMG ! Did I really read this ? My favorite korean BW player EVER is switching to SC 2 ?

YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !


Wait .... who am I going to root for in the next season ? NaDa or TLO ??? arrrgghhh <my brain explodes>


edit : yeah I know, that's a bit smiley heavy but I cannot refrain my joy :p
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Godstorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania845 Posts
September 17 2010 07:30 GMT
#305
Nada, julyzerg and silent_control, now boxer will come and sc2 will be awesome.
"It's not that he's dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor"-Day 9
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
September 17 2010 07:31 GMT
#306
i so hope nada qualifies would be epic for him to play and possibly win
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
September 17 2010 07:31 GMT
#307
There's no way Liquid can afford NaDa.
It's a pipe dream.
Mellotron
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States329 Posts
September 17 2010 07:31 GMT
#308
On September 17 2010 15:27 Kaptein[konijn] wrote:
Nada is one of the greatest players ever, but can anyone tell me what tournaments he's won since 2008? Isn't he a bit over the hill and getting old? I haven't followed the bw pros for a while..


Hey man, how about we wait until you are in your middle to late 20s and ill ask you if you are feeling old and over the hill? I have a strange mysterious magical feeling that suddenly late 20s wont seem so old to you. But thats just CRAZY talk, i know...

Cant wait to see Nada play. Whether he does really well or not everyone will always be glued to his games and he will always draw a crowd. I dont know if alot of TLers are just 15 or what but if you are like anything over 22 and not number 1 uncontested in your field or career they call you over the hill or a has been. Its really odd how people hold celebrities to an insane standard and extreme scrutiny of their lives/careers, no matter how average their own accomplishments and lives are. Must be human instinct or something.

Either way, cant wait for more BW players to come over so SC2 can become a wild west town of all kinds of players from all kinds of backgrounds. I waited a really long time for SC2 so that i could play it, but i waited just as long for the player base to mix and come together as it slowly is. Awesome news.
Starcraft player since 1999
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
September 17 2010 07:32 GMT
#309
Great to see the terran master in SC2 , ill be learning a lot from him.

Go NaDa!
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
September 17 2010 07:33 GMT
#310
YAAAAAAHHH!!
YAHHHH!!!
YAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!

Fuck a duck & clock yes!!!!

Now i have a reason to watch GSL. You should thank the players Blizzard.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
September 17 2010 07:34 GMT
#311
Fuck ya Nada, my favorite progamer (after MJY)! You are an inspiration to me and I hope you do equally well in SC2!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
September 17 2010 07:37 GMT
#312
Boxer where art thou?
khellian
Profile Joined February 2010
Korea (South)922 Posts
September 17 2010 07:39 GMT
#313
Awsome! Cant wait to se him play!
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
September 17 2010 07:39 GMT
#314
On September 17 2010 16:24 Tommylew wrote:
Yeh great news, and I bet people still says BW isnt dying...

As soon as contracts are up even more players will defect over. Looking for some top Protosses and Zerg's to come over to put terran finally in their place!!! probably not great that nada came over anyway then lol

well just tell me why is it dying? because old players that didnt evne play anymore in PL and shit are switching over? if stork bisu flash jd or someone like that is switching u can think about saying its dying.
lemagrag
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden32 Posts
September 17 2010 07:40 GMT
#315
For the first time im willing to pay for premium on GSL
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 17 2010 07:41 GMT
#316
I don't think he or JulyZerg will be dominant in SC2. There are enough new poeple who will do better imo.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
September 17 2010 07:43 GMT
#317
omg, the terran domion is getting better!
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
September 17 2010 07:46 GMT
#318
Damn if Boxer came to sc2 it would be very hard for us Protoss players ><
He'd find every trick there is each patch and everyone would see the Terran Dominion again
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
September 17 2010 07:50 GMT
#319
cant' wait for others to switch over when their contratcs need renewed, i really hope it happens!
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
September 17 2010 07:51 GMT
#320
Woo-hoo, can't wait for some GSL next season! NaDa's gonna tear this shit up! :D

Now all I need is a confirmation Boxer is switching over as well and I can die happy.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
September 17 2010 07:55 GMT
#321
Great news! TLO knew about it since the showmatch lol.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
Marke
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden279 Posts
September 17 2010 07:57 GMT
#322
this is epic! :D
Det är inte lätt när det är svårt
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
September 17 2010 07:57 GMT
#323
HUGE!!!! One Man fighting without a team. Can be hard!
keep it deep! @zulison
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
September 17 2010 07:58 GMT
#324
man with Nada and Boxer playing as terran, i can't wait for the "OMG IMBA TERRAN" comments to start pouring down the teamliquid forums
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
September 17 2010 07:58 GMT
#325
On September 17 2010 16:50 Champi wrote:
cant' wait for others to switch over when their contratcs need renewed, i really hope it happens!

And then so much talk about how foreigners get an equal start fades away as Koreans start to dominate the scene.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
September 17 2010 07:59 GMT
#326
On September 17 2010 16:57 zul wrote:
HUGE!!!! One Man fighting without a team. Can be hard!


It also gives you a psychological advantage as you dont have to play with any pressure of winning for your team.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
September 17 2010 08:01 GMT
#327
I hope he plays protoss. Remember his offrace matches against terran on maps like luna? So brutal.
ProwlerSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada18 Posts
September 17 2010 08:06 GMT
#328
This is really exciting and the transition is going faster than I had expected. It's kind of sad to see because I am still a huge fan of BW and so many BW players. My life would be complete if Samsung KHAN randomly switched over and I got to see some Firebathero, damn that would be insane. NaDa and July though, this is going to get insane. I hope it's not GG for foreigners.
SolC361
Profile Joined July 2010
United States184 Posts
September 17 2010 08:08 GMT
#329
Now...we wait for Boxer .
Rokit5
Profile Joined April 2010
236 Posts
September 17 2010 08:09 GMT
#330
Woah NaDa will pwn everyone. Very good news, and i just got out of bed, nada going sc2 plus its friday equals a very good start of the day. Gogo
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 17 2010 08:12 GMT
#331
anyone else think they didnt try that hard to convince him to stay because he wasent doing good anyway.

He also hated playing sc1
stFz
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands76 Posts
September 17 2010 08:17 GMT
#332
a w e s o m e

<3 NaDa
:)
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
September 17 2010 08:18 GMT
#333
Even if NaDa doesn't have a team, surely he has a manager to organise his sponsorship deals?
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
September 17 2010 08:18 GMT
#334
Wow more and more people switching to Sc2 and not just some nobodys, but really famous guys. The transition is going faster than anybody could have predicted.
Kind of sad for people who still love Broodwar, but great news for SC2.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
September 17 2010 08:21 GMT
#335
On September 17 2010 17:18 shrinkmaster wrote:
Wow more and more people switching to Sc2 and not just some nobodys, but really famous guys. The transition is going faster than anybody could have predicted.
Kind of sad for people who still love Broodwar, but great news for SC2.


well BW only had like 1 year MAX left if that...

A lot will retire or switch over in the next 6 months.
Live and Let Die!
Shady
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria115 Posts
September 17 2010 08:36 GMT
#336
GREAT!!!
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10304 Posts
September 17 2010 08:40 GMT
#337
On September 17 2010 16:58 MindRush wrote:
man with Nada and Boxer playing as terran, i can't wait for the "OMG IMBA TERRAN" comments to start pouring down the teamliquid forums


you sound like no one have said it so far ? the fuck

+ Show Spoiler +
i know what you mean btw
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
September 17 2010 08:41 GMT
#338
oh fuuuu July AND Nada next GSL? Shit is gonna be so fucking epic!!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Damnesiac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
September 17 2010 08:41 GMT
#339
now terran is going to be even more imba
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
September 17 2010 08:44 GMT
#340
Now they have to nerf terran twice as much :O
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
September 17 2010 08:45 GMT
#341
Really looking forward to following Nada in the GSL. I just watched the showmatch Bo3 vs TLO and man does Nada's playstyle feel so different from any current top SC2 player. His tank control, his way of microing every little thing... Of course a lot of it has to do with him not having played SC2 fully yet, but still so refreshing to see. All that BW experience working through his hands....damn.
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
September 17 2010 08:45 GMT
#342
omg @_@ this is awesome, I've gone back and watched dozens of VoD's of NaDa because he was such an influence in the game of starcraft I am so happy to see this. E-SPORTS FITINGGG

Also: I cant wait for big teams to move over to sc2 and continue the salary life for players making sc2 a job with a secure future.
Tahts halo dont worry
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
September 17 2010 08:49 GMT
#343
Hell yes. NaDa's gonna bonjwa it up in SC2. Good luck to him. NaDa fan for life!
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
September 17 2010 08:50 GMT
#344
On September 17 2010 17:21 Tommylew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 17:18 shrinkmaster wrote:
Wow more and more people switching to Sc2 and not just some nobodys, but really famous guys. The transition is going faster than anybody could have predicted.
Kind of sad for people who still love Broodwar, but great news for SC2.


well BW only had like 1 year MAX left if that...

A lot will retire or switch over in the next 6 months.


Hmm, i don't think it will happen that fast. The korean scene is really big and will fight for sc1. There's just so much money on the line for so many individuals and companys to go down without a fight.

Nada could probably afford to switch because he earned a lot of money in Sc1 and is ok without a team to support him.
Many other players may not have the financial power to support themselves while training sc2. They need a team to support them. And even though we heard about a few new teams which focus on sc2 in korea there currently just aren't enough spots in pro teams for so many broodwar players.

Starcraft 2 needs a teamleague so the scene can get bigger than sc1 and support many more pro players.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 08:57:26
September 17 2010 08:51 GMT
#345
awesome, hopefully he'll be a top contender again

and ill have someone to cheer for in sc2
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
September 17 2010 08:52 GMT
#346
Amazing news, we will see what a real pro A class, can do with hard training in SCII. Just to note --> Kespa Owned.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
September 17 2010 08:56 GMT
#347
This is awesome! Really looking forward to the next GSL, simply to see Nada in action again!
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
September 17 2010 09:01 GMT
#348
Even though I love BW and still think it's the best game ever (yet! SC2 _might_ have the potential to be even better), this is good news to hear. I'd love to see SC2 becoming even bigger than BW (especially outside of Korea), so it's great to see players with charisma join the scene. Nada's time in BW was more or less over anyways.
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
September 17 2010 09:02 GMT
#349
This is amazing. Gonna be cheering so hard for Nada int he upcoming tours. Hopefully he can get into the top in about a month or so.
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
September 17 2010 09:03 GMT
#350
NaDa is a baller, he better not somehow not be a baller at SC2.
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
September 17 2010 09:03 GMT
#351
GSL is ruining my school...
i dunno lol
Excessive
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark151 Posts
September 17 2010 09:12 GMT
#352
Great to see so many great players switch to SC2 (: Looking forward to watching him play.
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 09:12:45
September 17 2010 09:12 GMT
#353
Can't wait to watch S2 if NaDa and July get in they will attract so many viewers and possible sponsors
SpavaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Croatia175 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 09:13:37
September 17 2010 09:13 GMT
#354
On September 17 2010 17:51 Frits wrote:
awesome, hopefully he'll be a top contender again

and ill have someone to cheer for in sc2


We will see in the next GSL

gogo 3 drops at the same time
aka imagiNe... "What if Nydus worms could make my coffee, play 2v2 and close threads for me? That would be grand." - riptide
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
September 17 2010 09:23 GMT
#355
gogo nada
abuse terran
FTD
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
September 17 2010 09:25 GMT
#356
hope nada gets good in sc2
Brood War loyalist
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
September 17 2010 09:35 GMT
#357
good thinking NaDa !

always good to start early to win those badges and invent new builds !
Trust 神教教主 FlaSh | Believe 火心 EffOrt
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
September 17 2010 09:40 GMT
#358
Well that's the end of those foreigners reign.
exAdun
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)15 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 09:43:31
September 17 2010 09:42 GMT
#359
We need stork T_T
For Aiur!
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 17 2010 09:42 GMT
#360
On September 17 2010 18:42 exAdun wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
NEXFreeSaga has been tested, he failed!

Wrong thread buddy
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
exAdun
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)15 Posts
September 17 2010 09:44 GMT
#361
Wrong thread buddy


Edited, had the 2 post opened
For Aiur!
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
September 17 2010 09:50 GMT
#362
My favorite BW player now enters SC2, great news! All my old favorites are transferring, first MaDFroG and now NaDa, so sick!!
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 17 2010 09:53 GMT
#363
Here we are, Korean domination will soon begin !
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
September 17 2010 09:54 GMT
#364
OMGOMGOMG
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
September 17 2010 09:54 GMT
#365
On September 17 2010 18:53 Lylat wrote:
Here we are, Korean domination will soon begin !


2 late
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
September 17 2010 10:14 GMT
#366
hell yes. anyone know NaDa's new handle?
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
September 17 2010 10:14 GMT
#367
My favourite BW player ever going into sc2. Would prefer to see him playing lots more bw but if I can't have that, sure I'll take him sc2ing
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
September 17 2010 10:24 GMT
#368
Thats what you get for stopping Nada's fun @ IEM. You could tell he was upset and that probably also caused the decision to not join nay team.
"Well Tasteless, i once met a three-toed sloth with good marauder control " - Artosis
kadaver_BB
Profile Joined May 2010
55 Posts
September 17 2010 10:27 GMT
#369
To quote artosis: " i have geekchills all over my body"

Awesome News
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
September 17 2010 10:30 GMT
#370
Man.. I have no reason to have WeMade as my sig team now. 나다 화팅~~~~~
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
September 17 2010 10:30 GMT
#371
wait guys. so if nada was wemade and couldnt play sc2, does this mean moon cant play sc2 unless he leaves wemade as well ?

anyways gl to nada. he doesnt need a team. he can singlehandedly win GSL (:
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
September 17 2010 10:33 GMT
#372
Nada vs July for GSL2 Grand Finals.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
September 17 2010 10:34 GMT
#373
Liquid-TLAF'NaDa
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
September 17 2010 10:35 GMT
#374
On September 17 2010 19:30 T0fuuu wrote:
wait guys. so if nada was wemade and couldnt play sc2, does this mean moon cant play sc2 unless he leaves wemade as well ?

anyways gl to nada. he doesnt need a team. he can singlehandedly win GSL (:


I wonder why wemade doesn't have an SC2-team, they have scbw, cs, wc3 - why no sc2-team?

And what happened to moon anyways? Is he playing wc3 or sc2?
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
September 17 2010 10:42 GMT
#375
Oh, it's time for me to stop playing then!
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
September 17 2010 10:43 GMT
#376
My alltime favorite player to start playing SC2 is such a great news!!! I am happy now
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Gleen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brazil707 Posts
September 17 2010 10:44 GMT
#377
HOLY FUCKIN SHIT OVER 9000

I CAME SO HARD.
I'm nowhere near good, but I still have fun playing with my probes
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 10:52:20
September 17 2010 10:51 GMT
#378
On September 17 2010 19:35 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:30 T0fuuu wrote:
wait guys. so if nada was wemade and couldnt play sc2, does this mean moon cant play sc2 unless he leaves wemade as well ?

anyways gl to nada. he doesnt need a team. he can singlehandedly win GSL (:


I wonder why wemade doesn't have an SC2-team, they have scbw, cs, wc3 - why no sc2-team?

And what happened to moon anyways? Is he playing wc3 or sc2?

Kespa doesn't like SC2 (or rather, they don't like Blizzard and the current situation), the teams are controlled by kespa, thus the teams "don't like" SC2.

Moon is currently a full-time WC3 progamer.
Odge
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden84 Posts
September 17 2010 11:04 GMT
#379
Holy shit, great news!
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
September 17 2010 11:07 GMT
#380
On September 17 2010 19:51 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:35 kickinhead wrote:
On September 17 2010 19:30 T0fuuu wrote:
wait guys. so if nada was wemade and couldnt play sc2, does this mean moon cant play sc2 unless he leaves wemade as well ?

anyways gl to nada. he doesnt need a team. he can singlehandedly win GSL (:


I wonder why wemade doesn't have an SC2-team, they have scbw, cs, wc3 - why no sc2-team?

And what happened to moon anyways? Is he playing wc3 or sc2?

Kespa doesn't like SC2 (or rather, they don't like Blizzard and the current situation), the teams are controlled by kespa, thus the teams "don't like" SC2.

Moon is currently a full-time WC3 progamer.


I thought it was about kespa again....

Too bad moon doesn't play SC2 though.
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
September 17 2010 11:10 GMT
#381
The exodus is beginning. I cant wait to see these pros change to SC2.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
September 17 2010 11:13 GMT
#382
only boxer left. Omg this sh1t is huge man.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
MasterVelVet
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium132 Posts
September 17 2010 11:22 GMT
#383
Great news everyone, the delivery company decided it was time for NaDa to join SCII !


good stuff
decemvre
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania639 Posts
September 17 2010 11:23 GMT
#384
On September 17 2010 10:50 Zelniq wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]


If only i were gay :D
decemberTV
Thall
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Switzerland214 Posts
September 17 2010 11:34 GMT
#385
get ready for some epic action in gsl s2 i cant wait for other BW legends to make the transfer
This strategy is made of balls ! - Nick "Tasteless" Plott, during GSL cast
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
September 17 2010 11:41 GMT
#386
Ok, we are now screwed. Doesn't NaDa have enough money? ;D
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
September 17 2010 11:46 GMT
#387
On September 17 2010 11:09 Manifesto7 wrote:
TLAF-Liquid`NaDa imo.


Make it happennnnnnn!!!!!!
Han Solo
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom199 Posts
September 17 2010 11:51 GMT
#388
Any idea if he's going to join TSL or ST?
PulseNova
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia29 Posts
September 17 2010 11:51 GMT
#389
And KeSPA takes another hit.
ActivisionBlizzard's SC2 continues to gain footing in South Korea.

KeSPA should just give up now and save face.
6pool ftw
MasterVelVet
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium132 Posts
September 17 2010 11:52 GMT
#390
On September 17 2010 20:51 Han Solo wrote:
Any idea if he's going to join TSL or ST?



He currently lives outside the dorms, and he is practicing so that he can enter the GSL this upcoming October. He has also announced that he will be active as an individual in Starcraft 2, without belonging to a progame team. TSL and STARTALE and other Starcraft 2 teams have tried to recruit NaDa, but they have not been able to convince him.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
September 17 2010 11:58 GMT
#391
It's a shame if he picks terran.
MICHELLE
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)199 Posts
September 17 2010 11:58 GMT
#392
On September 17 2010 20:23 decemberTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 10:50 Zelniq wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]


If only i were gay :D


or a girl :3
Artosis, he's like that moss that grows on a tree that lets you know where the sun is
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
September 17 2010 12:06 GMT
#393
On September 17 2010 20:58 Zurles wrote:
It's a shame if he picks terran.

Dude, don't start.
Beware The Proxy Pool Rush
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
September 17 2010 12:07 GMT
#394
NAAAADAAAAAAAAA
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
September 17 2010 12:08 GMT
#395
He should join Team SCV Life. :D
Razyel
Profile Joined May 2010
295 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 12:09:43
September 17 2010 12:09 GMT
#396
At the showmatch in Cologne TLO kicked his ass really bad, hope he has improved a lot since then cause he didnt make an impresion at all.
Tester Iron NonY WhiteRa Huk Genius
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
September 17 2010 12:10 GMT
#397
GSL season 2 is going to be SOOO sick.. TLO / Idra + more foreigners.. add some July and Nada and we have a sick event going on
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 17 2010 12:10 GMT
#398
On September 17 2010 21:09 Razyel wrote:
At the showmatch in Cologne TLO kicked his ass really bad, hope he has improved a lot since then cause he didnt make an impresion at all.


It's Nada....

If he actually puts time into the game he'll be leaps and bounds above everyone else that's currently playing...
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
September 17 2010 12:11 GMT
#399
Razyel.... did you not see game 2? NaDa showed some awesome macro play and even returned TLO's Nukes
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
ShLiM
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria178 Posts
September 17 2010 12:12 GMT
#400
On September 17 2010 21:09 Razyel wrote:
At the showmatch in Cologne TLO kicked his ass really bad, hope he has improved a lot since then cause he didnt make an impresion at all.

An obvious troll is obvious.
IBASI ZMIQTA
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 12:21:07
September 17 2010 12:20 GMT
#401
Nada vs July for season 2 finals would be awesome .
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 12:22:16
September 17 2010 12:21 GMT
#402
On September 17 2010 21:09 Razyel wrote:
At the showmatch in Cologne TLO kicked his ass really bad, hope he has improved a lot since then cause he didnt make an impresion at all.


Except when he creamed TLO with insane macro in game 2 with only 10 days practice.
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 12:24:03
September 17 2010 12:23 GMT
#403
Makes me wonder, will he earn a SC2 golden mouse? I always liked Nada.
Aiyeeeee
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 12:27:20
September 17 2010 12:24 GMT
#404
now what if Nada and July doesn't make it through the preliminary rounds on the next GSL?

+ Show Spoiler +
Joking, like hell thats gonna happen right? FUCK YEAH NADA FIGHTING!


WTB Korean Netizens comments!
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
September 17 2010 12:25 GMT
#405
On September 17 2010 21:23 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
Makes me wonder, will he earn a SC2 golden mouse? I always liked Nada.


He probably will if they have a golden mouse for 3 GSLs .
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
September 17 2010 12:28 GMT
#406
And so it begins!!!
Will be great to watch now. Now....just have to wait for some awesome tossers to come to sc2. :D
End my suffering
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
September 17 2010 12:31 GMT
#407
Heh, next GSL is gonna have some crazy competition and so many big names in it.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
September 17 2010 12:33 GMT
#408
Woo Nada!! It's amazing seeing old progamers returning to play again. Nada's gonna tear us all apart :D

On September 17 2010 21:23 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
Makes me wonder, will he earn a SC2 golden mouse? I always liked Nada.


Don't you mean a diamond mouse?
Sup.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 17 2010 12:33 GMT
#409
WTB Korean Netizens comments!


how much :3
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 17 2010 12:36 GMT
#410
On September 17 2010 20:58 Zurles wrote:
It's a shame if he picks terran.


its a shame if he does NOT pick terran
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
September 17 2010 12:40 GMT
#411
Great news and I'm glad that kespa has no more power to him. GO NaDa!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Han Solo
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom199 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 12:41:17
September 17 2010 12:41 GMT
#412
On September 17 2010 20:52 MasterVelVet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 20:51 Han Solo wrote:
Any idea if he's going to join TSL or ST?



Show nested quote +
He currently lives outside the dorms, and he is practicing so that he can enter the GSL this upcoming October. He has also announced that he will be active as an individual in Starcraft 2, without belonging to a progame team. TSL and STARTALE and other Starcraft 2 teams have tried to recruit NaDa, but they have not been able to convince him.

Right, somehow I missed that...

Thanks anyway.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
September 17 2010 12:49 GMT
#413
On September 17 2010 21:09 Razyel wrote:
At the showmatch in Cologne TLO kicked his ass really bad, hope he has improved a lot since then cause he didnt make an impresion at all.

Loltroll

It was pretty close actually especially when Nada didn't put too much time practicing
Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
September 17 2010 12:49 GMT
#414
Yes

I have always loved watching NaDa! So happy he is moving to SC2 =DDDDDD
Let them say we lived in the time of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. Let them say we lived in the time of Nal_rA, Dreamer of Protoss. Let them say we lived in the time of Savior, Master of the Zerg.
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
September 17 2010 12:54 GMT
#415
mmmmh LEE YOON YEOL!!!! yessssss gogogo nada!
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
September 17 2010 13:02 GMT
#416
Not going to lie, Liquid Nada would make be come buckets. Cmon nada, read this post, Join TLO, exact some revenge in practice matches.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 17 2010 13:13 GMT
#417
Nada!!! Sick!!! I'm definitely going to watch for season 2 to spend my money on GOM now.
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rtsAlaran
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany383 Posts
September 17 2010 13:16 GMT
#418
SC2 finally takes over!
Korean Progamers for each race gogo
Zerg - check!
Terran - check!
Protoss - to come next!

*sort of excited*
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 17 2010 13:18 GMT
#419
On September 17 2010 21:21 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 21:09 Razyel wrote:
At the showmatch in Cologne TLO kicked his ass really bad, hope he has improved a lot since then cause he didnt make an impresion at all.


Except when he creamed TLO with insane macro in game 2 with only 10 days practice.


I bet he played longer than 10 days. They just didn't want to admit that he's deeply into SC2.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 13:19:49
September 17 2010 13:19 GMT
#420
+ Show Spoiler +
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Nada first SC2 bonjwaaaa AHHHHHHHHHHHH

this is so awesome

+ Show Spoiler +
NADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


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SSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKIIIIIINNNGGGG COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
RailGuN
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore73 Posts
September 17 2010 13:21 GMT
#421
OMG if this keeps up next GSL season will be epic beyond measure. Nada fighting!
He apparently didn't have much practice when he played TLO in the showmatch and that was already awesome =]
Whatever floats your boat.
Kanin
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
75 Posts
September 17 2010 13:21 GMT
#422
How long until people find him on ladder and start spreading replays?
*squeak* ^-^
Floydian
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom374 Posts
September 17 2010 13:26 GMT
#423
Holy shit the next GSL is gonna be EPIC. Nada AND July. It makes me all giggly with nerd chills just thinking about it :D
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
September 17 2010 13:29 GMT
#424
PROTOSSS needs a savior. Hmm let me re-phrase that. Let's hope Boxer transitions to sc2 and SWITCHES to Protoss
NaDa and Boxer playing Terran to maximum capabilities is scary VERY scary.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Wdqgdf
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden13 Posts
September 17 2010 13:31 GMT
#425
Amazing.
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 13:33:33
September 17 2010 13:32 GMT
#426
I'm pretty sure NaDa and Boxer will both play Terran, they seemed to be very fond of spells and micro which is one of Terran's specialties. I'm so looking forward to seeing their reincarnation into SC2 :D

On September 17 2010 22:29 shannn wrote:
PROTOSSS needs a savior. Hmm let me re-phrase that. Let's hope Boxer transitions to sc2 and SWITCHES to Protoss
NaDa and Boxer playing Terran to maximum capabilities is scary VERY scary.


Are Adel and HuK not good enough for you?
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
Gleen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brazil707 Posts
September 17 2010 13:38 GMT
#427
On September 17 2010 22:32 SilverPotato wrote:
I'm pretty sure NaDa and Boxer will both play Terran, they seemed to be very fond of spells and micro which is one of Terran's specialties. I'm so looking forward to seeing their reincarnation into SC2 :D

Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 22:29 shannn wrote:
PROTOSSS needs a savior. Hmm let me re-phrase that. Let's hope Boxer transitions to sc2 and SWITCHES to Protoss
NaDa and Boxer playing Terran to maximum capabilities is scary VERY scary.


Are Adel and HuK not good enough for you?


I'm prety sure he meant a korean one.
I'm nowhere near good, but I still have fun playing with my probes
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 13:42:44
September 17 2010 13:39 GMT
#428
On September 17 2010 22:32 SilverPotato wrote:
I'm pretty sure NaDa and Boxer will both play Terran, they seemed to be very fond of spells and micro which is one of Terran's specialties. I'm so looking forward to seeing their reincarnation into SC2 :D

Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 22:29 shannn wrote:
PROTOSSS needs a savior. Hmm let me re-phrase that. Let's hope Boxer transitions to sc2 and SWITCHES to Protoss
NaDa and Boxer playing Terran to maximum capabilities is scary VERY scary.


Are Adel and HuK not good enough for you?


Who?

No protoss that goes Stalker immortal colossus sentry is fun to watch. Prob the most boring combo ever, along with MMM.

Socke on the other hand mixes it up alot, and is alot more entertaining.

Remember his fast high temps for feedback + zealot speed rush. Every Protoss vs Z/T that involves high temps is alot more fun to watch then the COLLOSSUs/stalker/forcefield shit.
Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
September 17 2010 13:40 GMT
#429
NADA FIGHTING!!
So glad to see bw pros coming over to star2. nerdchills.
"What is this TeamSupportGroup?" - mahnini.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 17 2010 13:46 GMT
#430
On September 17 2010 22:39 Pekkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 22:32 SilverPotato wrote:
I'm pretty sure NaDa and Boxer will both play Terran, they seemed to be very fond of spells and micro which is one of Terran's specialties. I'm so looking forward to seeing their reincarnation into SC2 :D

On September 17 2010 22:29 shannn wrote:
PROTOSSS needs a savior. Hmm let me re-phrase that. Let's hope Boxer transitions to sc2 and SWITCHES to Protoss
NaDa and Boxer playing Terran to maximum capabilities is scary VERY scary.


Are Adel and HuK not good enough for you?


Who?

No protoss that goes Stalker immortal colossus sentry is fun to watch. Prob the most boring combo ever, along with MMM.

Socke on the other hand mixes it up alot, and is alot more entertaining.

Remember his fast high temps for feedback + zealot speed rush. Every Protoss vs Z/T that involves high temps is alot more fun to watch then the COLLOSSUs/stalker/forcefield shit.


templars are way better collossus vs terran if you spread them so they wont all be hit by 1 emp imo

collossus are so easy to counter with vikings
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
September 17 2010 13:47 GMT
#431
damn wemade is going to suuuuuck

but good news for sc2!
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
September 17 2010 13:49 GMT
#432
what if nada played zerg in sc2. lol. one can only hope.
Zangaxx
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden9 Posts
September 17 2010 13:49 GMT
#433
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?
Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
September 17 2010 13:50 GMT
#434
On September 17 2010 10:50 Zelniq wrote:
[image loading]

The perspective from which this picture was taken is really troublesome. Are Koreans really as "tall" as a pony?
And forgive me nothing for I truly meant it all
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
September 17 2010 13:53 GMT
#435
O M G
Epic epic news. Can't wait to see some vods of Nada playing in decent quality :D
Best news ever.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 17 2010 13:56 GMT
#436
On September 17 2010 22:39 Pekkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 22:32 SilverPotato wrote:
I'm pretty sure NaDa and Boxer will both play Terran, they seemed to be very fond of spells and micro which is one of Terran's specialties. I'm so looking forward to seeing their reincarnation into SC2 :D

On September 17 2010 22:29 shannn wrote:
PROTOSSS needs a savior. Hmm let me re-phrase that. Let's hope Boxer transitions to sc2 and SWITCHES to Protoss
NaDa and Boxer playing Terran to maximum capabilities is scary VERY scary.


Are Adel and HuK not good enough for you?


Who?

No protoss that goes Stalker immortal colossus sentry is fun to watch. Prob the most boring combo ever, along with MMM.

Socke on the other hand mixes it up alot, and is alot more entertaining.

Remember his fast high temps for feedback + zealot speed rush. Every Protoss vs Z/T that involves high temps is alot more fun to watch then the COLLOSSUs/stalker/forcefield shit.


So guess whats NaDa gonna play, lol. But I guess entertainment is just up to P and Z.
limmm
Profile Joined August 2010
3 Posts
September 17 2010 13:58 GMT
#437
which team can afford him? What team has the star talent that equals nada sc1 wise?

none at the moment in professional SC2; I think nada made the right decision here.
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
September 17 2010 13:58 GMT
#438
Oh my goooood!
IMAGINE, gsl finals NADA vs JULY !
HOLY SHIT
can´t wait


holy check
After Mondays and Tuesdays even the Calender says W T F
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
September 17 2010 14:02 GMT
#439
Dammit i was just on a crusade to become a pro in scII and dominate the scene!
Guess i can forget that one now ..
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
September 17 2010 14:02 GMT
#440
On September 17 2010 22:32 SilverPotato wrote:
I'm pretty sure NaDa and Boxer will both play Terran, they seemed to be very fond of spells and micro which is one of Terran's specialties. I'm so looking forward to seeing their reincarnation into SC2 :D

Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 22:29 shannn wrote:
PROTOSSS needs a savior. Hmm let me re-phrase that. Let's hope Boxer transitions to sc2 and SWITCHES to Protoss
NaDa and Boxer playing Terran to maximum capabilities is scary VERY scary.


Are Adel and HuK not good enough for you?

They are good enough for me but not legendary like NaDa and Boxer so in that case I'm just being greedy

And besides I remember from the Hyunjoong show that Boxer used to be Protoss long ago so he might go Protoss in sc2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
September 17 2010 14:05 GMT
#441
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Strajder
Profile Joined August 2010
60 Posts
September 17 2010 14:49 GMT
#442
Boxer and Flash should be the next to switch IMHO.
Succsex Dragon #1 GM 2013
Luvz
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway356 Posts
September 17 2010 14:53 GMT
#443
this is so awsome, i keep spamming f5 to read commentz.
Norway ~ Home of the brave <3
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
September 17 2010 14:55 GMT
#444
On September 17 2010 22:18 CruelZeratul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 21:21 Zzoram wrote:
On September 17 2010 21:09 Razyel wrote:
At the showmatch in Cologne TLO kicked his ass really bad, hope he has improved a lot since then cause he didnt make an impresion at all.


Except when he creamed TLO with insane macro in game 2 with only 10 days practice.


I bet he played longer than 10 days. They just didn't want to admit that he's deeply into SC2.


Yeah...the greatest BW player of all time, the guy with 6 MSL/OSL titles practiced SC2 extensively yet had no idea how to do proper builds. Totally makes sense. Anyway it should be interesting how many foreigners actually sign up for season 2 now. With Nada and Julyzerg already in the running and Idra going out in Ro32 the chances of more foreigners participating than S1 seems slim to none now.
sadyque
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania251 Posts
September 17 2010 14:57 GMT
#445
Maybe TLO can save us in the GSL :S
60 bucks? But it has Kerrigans Boobs in three god damn dimensions. Do you know how long i have waited for this?
razamanaz
Profile Joined August 2010
271 Posts
September 17 2010 15:01 GMT
#446
On September 17 2010 23:57 sadyque wrote:
Maybe TLO can save us in the GSL :S


If tester has a bad day :/
LuciferSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada535 Posts
September 17 2010 15:02 GMT
#447
On September 17 2010 23:55 antelope591 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 22:18 CruelZeratul wrote:
On September 17 2010 21:21 Zzoram wrote:
On September 17 2010 21:09 Razyel wrote:
At the showmatch in Cologne TLO kicked his ass really bad, hope he has improved a lot since then cause he didnt make an impresion at all.


Except when he creamed TLO with insane macro in game 2 with only 10 days practice.


I bet he played longer than 10 days. They just didn't want to admit that he's deeply into SC2.


Yeah...the greatest BW player of all time, the guy with 6 MSL/OSL titles practiced SC2 extensively yet had no idea how to do proper builds. Totally makes sense. Anyway it should be interesting how many foreigners actually sign up for season 2 now. With Nada and Julyzerg already in the running and Idra going out in Ro32 the chances of more foreigners participating than S1 seems slim to none now.


The Western pros are just gonna practice like Korean pros do.
Or else, they won't have a chance.
Come get some
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
September 17 2010 15:02 GMT
#448
Im so so so happy because of this! really excited to see nada get good as terran!
go terran power DEF!
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
sirius89
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany45 Posts
September 17 2010 15:03 GMT
#449
It's really nice to see NaDa going to SC2 but another Terran? -.-
I'am so sick of seeing Terrans in casts,really. ^^
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
September 17 2010 15:03 GMT
#450
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash



LOL, nice comparison.

As much as I believe that KR pros will eventually dominate the pro SC2 scene, the game is really young, so foreigners still have a great opportunity to do well imo.

The skill ceiling isn't completely out of reach for some of the top foreigners playing right now.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 15:04:38
September 17 2010 15:04 GMT
#451
It's great seeing NaDa move over. I'm sure he'll do great.

It's almost as great seeing all the Starcraft conservatives cry like babies in the BW thread about speculated players switching over.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 17 2010 15:04 GMT
#452
On September 17 2010 23:49 Strajder wrote:
Boxer and Flash should be the next to switch IMHO.


Wouldn't be surprised if Boxer switched over because like NaDa and July he has nothing to gain in BW, like them he's washed up and isn't good enough to compete there. But in SC2 he could potentially be a powerhouse and at the very least he has nothing to really lose other than a spot on SKT that he isn't doing anything with.

Flash won't go over anytime soon though. He makes a very comfortable salary and there's still more money for him to win in BW. I don't think the BW scene will be dying anytime soon so you can hold your breath if you think any significant A-teamers are going to SC2 anytime in the next few years. Although, I guess if BW completely falls apart and dies then those players would be forced to switch over. At which point everyone we thought was good at SC2 will instantly become terrible.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
September 17 2010 15:07 GMT
#453
I'd love to see Bisu or Stork switch. Those guys are boss and could really inspire Toss players, and while they are still excellent BW players, neither is good enough to unseat Flash. Its a choice between being good, but not the best, in BW, or switching and having a chance to carve out a legend as SC2 champions.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
September 17 2010 15:16 GMT
#454
Flash should stay in BW at least until he wins more titles than anyone. Let him makes history and becomes the undisputable king of Brood War. Then maybe Blizzard will change Jim Raynor's name to Lee Young Ho.

Plus SC2 is not yet balanced. There's really no hope to other race when he plays SC2 Terran.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
September 17 2010 15:25 GMT
#455
None of the currently at least midly-successful (A-teamers) will switch any time soon imo. They have no reason to.
They are good at bw, they have a salary (the whole MBC team just recontracted like a couple of days ago), and they probably still will have a televised league to play in.
They have absolutely no reason to switch to a new game where they wouldn't be paid regularly, and that isn't as popular (in korea of course) than bw.

That being said, I'm not surprised to see Nada switch to sc2. He doesn't need the money and was rarely used anymore by WeMade. I feel like it's his way to try to come back and shine again.
He did great things in bw and even though I personally never really was a fan of him I'm glad for him if that's what he wants to do, I'm glad for him and I'm sure he'll be successful
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
CanadianSC
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada53 Posts
September 17 2010 15:25 GMT
#456
This is the most brilliant thing. NaDa Hwaiting!!!

and has anyone thought about a global proleague, or well a non-korean proleague. Root. Prime. EG. Liquid. ToT (if they are still kicking)
Zerg is a hard race. -DRG
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
September 17 2010 15:25 GMT
#457
we made fox and NaDa so awesome for SC2
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 15:40:02
September 17 2010 15:35 GMT
#458
On September 18 2010 00:25 CanadianSC wrote:
This is the most brilliant thing. NaDa Hwaiting!!!

and has anyone thought about a global proleague, or well a non-korean proleague. Root. Prime. EG. Liquid. ToT (if they are still kicking)


Gretech already said they don't want to have a proleague or pro teams for SC2. So I doubt it'll happen. As for a global one, I doubt that will happen either as the Koreans will just be so dominant that it'll be hard for other teams to find sponsors.

So yeah, unless Gretech/Blizzard lose their court case on IP rights you won't see a proleague in SC2. If KeSPA wins said court case though it's only a matter of time before they form an SC2 proleague.

After re-reading, it might would be cool to see a non-Korean proleague form but the issue again is sponsors. There's no country outside of Korea where it could really get televised and take off so there's no real sponsors with the resources to fly teams to other countries to play one another and honestly matches played over the internet are a lot less exciting. Plus if you're excluding non-Koreans it's basically the equivalent of Minor league sports, which are even more boring than Pro league sports.
FifthEmpire
Profile Joined September 2010
Brazil7 Posts
September 17 2010 15:39 GMT
#459
Go go go NaDa!
Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
September 17 2010 15:40 GMT
#460
Ah, this is truly very exciting. It was never going to transpire that the elite Korean esports community, already comfortably ensconsed and highly successful in BW, were immediately going to drop all their fame and bitches for the different ball game that is SC2. Still, it seems as if the flood is beginning, and while I hope that the Western professional scene's headstart will give them a good go against the Koreans that are jumping ship, I think no matter what happens we are going to see the top level of SC2 gaming rise another notch!
Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands.
Zangaxx
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden9 Posts
September 17 2010 15:42 GMT
#461
How do you think SC2 compares to SC:BW in skill and as a spectator sport? Will the game make it's metamorphosis with Hots? Like SC did with BW (as is my limited understanding)? Do you think the game has the potential and depth to unseat the original and out of curiosity is the same guys working on SC2 as for the original?
Solid2TheSnake
Profile Joined August 2010
United States11 Posts
September 17 2010 15:44 GMT
#462
I'm excited to see more Korean players join SC2. Maybe they'll really unlock some strange and brilliantly new strategies that will really start changing this game (unfortunately, in the league I'm in, its just one big rush fest)
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
September 17 2010 15:45 GMT
#463
i shook this mans hand in cologne and havnt washed it since... ive played 300x better since that moment. (shook hands with him after group stages)

gl my friend <3 ^^;
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
September 17 2010 15:52 GMT
#464
On September 18 2010 00:45 HuK wrote:
i shook this mans hand in cologne and havnt washed it since... ive played 300x better since that moment. (shook hands with him after group stages)

gl my friend <3 ^^;


bart simpson syndrome my man.
the UMP says YER OUT
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 17 2010 15:54 GMT
#465
On September 18 2010 00:45 HuK wrote:
i shook this mans hand in cologne and havnt washed it since... ive played 300x better since that moment. (shook hands with him after group stages)

gl my friend <3 ^^;


lol did you get him to sign your forehead too? because that would be awesome. i would totally let nada sign whatever part of me he wanted.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
September 17 2010 15:56 GMT
#466
I can't wait to see NaDa play. I will root for him against anyone. I remember scrounging around and downloading as many of his replays as I could find back when I was trying to learn Terran in BW. The man was a force of nature.

I hope he doesn't have trouble succeeding without a team.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Craixs
Profile Joined January 2008
Denmark170 Posts
September 17 2010 15:58 GMT
#467
this is going to be huge :D
Entusman #9.
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
September 17 2010 15:58 GMT
#468
Should be fun seeing him play SC2.it'd be very interesting to see how the BW gods fair in SC2.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
sleepytime
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark122 Posts
September 17 2010 16:04 GMT
#469
This is good news! I can't wait to see Nada play again!
Nada fighting!
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 16:59:57
September 17 2010 16:57 GMT
#470
Anybody knows which foreigners will participate in gsl's next seasons ? I'm curious to hear what are the plans of huk, select, dimaga, whitera, socke, morrow, anyway all these top foreign players

edit: nevermind didn't see the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=153660
o choro é livre
Jeremy Reimer
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada968 Posts
September 17 2010 17:15 GMT
#471
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!
"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." -- Carl Sagan
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Gruntt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States175 Posts
September 17 2010 17:21 GMT
#472
Is BW really continuing on? I had a korean tell me that OSL/MSL is now finished and there will be no more?

someone confirm please
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 17 2010 17:29 GMT
#473
Midas team captain? That's kinda weird. GL nada!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
September 17 2010 17:40 GMT
#474
[image loading]
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 17:43:31
September 17 2010 17:43 GMT
#475
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
September 17 2010 17:45 GMT
#476
On September 18 2010 02:40 Mohdoo wrote:
[image loading]

So who wins in the end?
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
September 17 2010 17:46 GMT
#477
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


.......
bisu fanboy
Capteone
Profile Joined March 2010
United States197 Posts
September 17 2010 17:59 GMT
#478
Has Nada announced what race he will be?
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 17 2010 18:02 GMT
#479
On September 18 2010 02:59 Capteone wrote:
Has Nada announced what race he will be?

Well, considering he played terran in scbw, played terran in the showmatch vs TLO, and terran is terran, I don't see him NOT being terran.
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gundream
Profile Joined April 2010
United States229 Posts
September 17 2010 18:12 GMT
#480
NaDa FIGHTING!!!
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
September 17 2010 18:16 GMT
#481
On September 18 2010 02:46 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


.......


I lol'd too
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
September 17 2010 18:17 GMT
#482
"Liquid NaDa" sounds like something you'd put on your face, or your chest, or your... y'know.

... and I would.
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 17 2010 18:38 GMT
#483
Nice to see him back, but this is a bitter pill to swallow for BW. With all the recent news, lots of teams are in a lot of trouble. Flash and JD will have to hold down the fort if BW has any chance of survival.
sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
September 17 2010 19:06 GMT
#484
omg yes :D
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 19:20:16
September 17 2010 19:19 GMT
#485
On September 18 2010 03:38 StarStruck wrote:
Nice to see him back, but this is a bitter pill to swallow for BW. With all the recent news, lots of teams are in a lot of trouble. Flash and JD will have to hold down the fort if BW has any chance of survival.


I don't know about you, but Flash and Jaedong actually killed (or are slowly killing) my interest in Brood War. Watching the same 2 players over and over is bad for the press, even OGN admitted it. Without new faces in the scene, any sport becomes stagnant until some new guy reinvigorates interest.

I'd rather stick to Brood War as the game of choice for progamers, to be honest. Then again, real A class pros like NaDa and July hopped the SC2 ship. They could turn SC2 from a seemingly easy, low-skill game, to one that BW has evolved to.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 17 2010 19:23 GMT
#486
On September 18 2010 04:19 newvsoldschool wrote:
I'd rather stick to Brood War as the game of choice for progamers, to be honest. Then again, real A class pros like NaDa and July hopped the SC2 ship. They could turn SC2 from a seemingly easy, low-skill game, to one that BW has evolved to.


How is still thinking like this anyway?
Altair
Profile Joined August 2009
243 Posts
September 17 2010 19:25 GMT
#487
Starcraft 2 scene is getting better and better. :D Nada is on my view list.

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.

lolwuuuuuuut? O.o


JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 17 2010 19:31 GMT
#488
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Who are you to say their mechanics won't transfer over? Have you spoken directly to them and heard them say that?
Yargh
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 17 2010 19:33 GMT
#489
On September 18 2010 03:16 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 02:46 fearus wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


.......


I lol'd too

Guys.. He is from the Wc3 community, he doesn't know any better.

Hope to see the most successful BW player become the most successful ScII player? :D
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 17 2010 19:40 GMT
#490
On September 18 2010 04:19 newvsoldschool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 03:38 StarStruck wrote:
Nice to see him back, but this is a bitter pill to swallow for BW. With all the recent news, lots of teams are in a lot of trouble. Flash and JD will have to hold down the fort if BW has any chance of survival.


I don't know about you, but Flash and Jaedong actually killed (or are slowly killing) my interest in Brood War. Watching the same 2 players over and over is bad for the press, even OGN admitted it. Without new faces in the scene, any sport becomes stagnant until some new guy reinvigorates interest.

I'd rather stick to Brood War as the game of choice for progamers, to be honest. Then again, real A class pros like NaDa and July hopped the SC2 ship. They could turn SC2 from a seemingly easy, low-skill game, to one that BW has evolved to.

Well Flash only got signed in 2007. Compared to other sports, I think SC top players change faces way faster. And if you find watching them play boring, watch some low A players.
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
September 17 2010 19:46 GMT
#491
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 19:56:23
September 17 2010 19:48 GMT
#492
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. Their macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw
I'll find it hard to believe they do that much better then people like tester or TLO..demuslim. They're capable to play with the best but do be just way ahead of everyone else? please.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
September 17 2010 19:56 GMT
#493
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.
There is no one like you in the universe.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 17 2010 19:57 GMT
#494
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


First of all, the interface is not that much different. Heck, there's an option for old format, IIRC.

Macro is built upon practice - yes. However, if you are going to discount their ability to learn the new macro just because your explanation makes them into robots, then I disagree with that. People who have only the muscle memory for macro do not become top world class players like NaDa. It takes a lot more than that.
Yargh
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 19:59:59
September 17 2010 19:58 GMT
#495
On September 18 2010 04:56 vica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.

really? i can guarantee they wont do as good as u think. I challenge anyone here to outmacro/outplay me. I'll prove to u BW mechanics mean nothing in sc2
pride.726
lets go : )
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
September 17 2010 19:58 GMT
#496
On September 18 2010 04:56 vica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.


He's arguing it because he doesn't really understand what Macro means. Just because Macro in SC2 is way easier in SC2 doesn't mean their Macro sense won't carry over
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 17 2010 20:06 GMT
#497
On September 18 2010 04:19 newvsoldschool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 03:38 StarStruck wrote:
Nice to see him back, but this is a bitter pill to swallow for BW. With all the recent news, lots of teams are in a lot of trouble. Flash and JD will have to hold down the fort if BW has any chance of survival.


I don't know about you, but Flash and Jaedong actually killed (or are slowly killing) my interest in Brood War. Watching the same 2 players over and over is bad for the press, even OGN admitted it. Without new faces in the scene, any sport becomes stagnant until some new guy reinvigorates interest.

I'd rather stick to Brood War as the game of choice for progamers, to be honest. Then again, real A class pros like NaDa and July hopped the SC2 ship. They could turn SC2 from a seemingly easy, low-skill game, to one that BW has evolved to.


Well aware. The problem is players like NaDa and July had market appeal hence they were given lucrative contracts. With the downsizing of BW Pro Gaming teams where will we find this new blood when many of oldest big names are moving on? More Koreans will pursue SC2 and BW could be left in the dust if new players don't rise to the top to combat Flash and JD. :/

KeSPA's job got a little harder to find new homes for estro.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11822 Posts
September 17 2010 20:08 GMT
#498
Will be interesting to see how long it takes for him and july to get fully into the groove and find those small things they can do to get an edge.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
September 17 2010 20:08 GMT
#499
On September 18 2010 03:16 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 02:46 fearus wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


.......


I lol'd too


hehe.... gotta say it was some funny shit right there.
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
September 17 2010 20:10 GMT
#500
On September 18 2010 04:58 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 04:56 vica wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.

really? i can guarantee they wont do as good as u think. I challenge anyone here to outmacro/outplay me. I'll prove to u BW mechanics mean nothing in sc2
pride.726
lets go : )

hahaha nobody said they were "macroing better than most of the top bw players outside of korea"... except YOU. If you want to prove your point, you should play THEM, instead of trying to act all cool and trying to save face and challenging the people laughing at you.

The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 20:20:08
September 17 2010 20:17 GMT
#501
On September 18 2010 05:10 Wings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 04:58 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:56 vica wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.

really? i can guarantee they wont do as good as u think. I challenge anyone here to outmacro/outplay me. I'll prove to u BW mechanics mean nothing in sc2
pride.726
lets go : )

hahaha nobody said they were "macroing better than most of the top bw players outside of korea"... except YOU. If you want to prove your point, you should play THEM, instead of trying to act all cool and trying to save face and challenging the people laughing at you.


Well I thought people outside of korea who had been playing bw for over 6+ years in the scene have good macro. I mean they have played it alot you would think that it would transfer over from bw rite?
I just find it hard to believe you are so ignorant about how good these guys actually are. There is no doubt they were top of the line BW players but its just completely stupid to say oh ye they come in and win all leagues and be years ahead of everyone else. i mean cmon. They don't even dominate the ladder. I just fail to see why you guys are so up thinking there going to be the best player ever because bw players are just naturally better. I mean cmon? TLO wasn't even really a BW player.
there are tons of new talent thats going to be > then old talent.
It feels like preaching atheism to a group of christians.


User was temp banned for this post.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
September 17 2010 20:41 GMT
#502
FindingPride, thanks for the laugh.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
September 17 2010 20:46 GMT
#503
this is dope! glad to see the top bw people starting to make the transition over to sc2
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
September 17 2010 20:49 GMT
#504
On September 18 2010 05:17 FindingPride wrote:
TLO wasn't even really a BW player.



um what?
Jalle
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden149 Posts
September 17 2010 20:50 GMT
#505
Finally I have found myself a worthy opponent!
Peking)
Profile Joined June 2010
United States54 Posts
September 17 2010 20:50 GMT
#506
heck ya man NaDa FIGHTING!!!! lol i cant wait to see NaDa own up the competition in SC II lol XD
Domonic
Profile Joined August 2010
United States135 Posts
September 17 2010 20:53 GMT
#507
WOAH! NADA IS COMING TO SC2! WOW!
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
September 17 2010 21:03 GMT
#508
On September 18 2010 05:49 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 05:17 FindingPride wrote:
TLO wasn't even really a BW player.



um what?

TBO... from Germany... are you his brother?

Anyways the story I've been hearing is that he was more of a supcom player then played on ICCup a bit before jumping into SC2.
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
September 17 2010 21:05 GMT
#509
Hot, hot hot! Tornado Terran has touched down again!
XK ßubonic
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
September 17 2010 21:07 GMT
#510
well he first played 1999 or 2000 a lots on LAN vs my older brothers and myself, later from 2002 to 2004 via dial-up (couldn't get better internet back then thanks to awesome deutsche telekom). Then he returned to starcraft at end of 2008...

so I'd conclude that your statement that he played "a bit" on ICCUP is "a bit" of an understatement.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 21:11:33
September 17 2010 21:09 GMT
#511
On September 17 2010 20:07 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:51 Puosu wrote:
On September 17 2010 19:35 kickinhead wrote:
On September 17 2010 19:30 T0fuuu wrote:
wait guys. so if nada was wemade and couldnt play sc2, does this mean moon cant play sc2 unless he leaves wemade as well ?

anyways gl to nada. he doesnt need a team. he can singlehandedly win GSL (:


I wonder why wemade doesn't have an SC2-team, they have scbw, cs, wc3 - why no sc2-team?

And what happened to moon anyways? Is he playing wc3 or sc2?

Kespa doesn't like SC2 (or rather, they don't like Blizzard and the current situation), the teams are controlled by kespa, thus the teams "don't like" SC2.

Moon is currently a full-time WC3 progamer.


I thought it was about kespa again....

Too bad moon doesn't play SC2 though.


Too bad? Dude, you can demolish our game and you can steal all our pride, but you wont take our one superstar from us! Moon is forever Wc3! <3

In all seriousness though, Wc3 is just as awesome of a game as SC2 is. Why would you want EVERY single one of the pro WC3 players to switch to SC2? I want both games to live, not just one to live like hell and one to just disappear in oblivion.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
September 17 2010 21:12 GMT
#512
On September 18 2010 06:07 TBO wrote:
well he first played 1999 or 2000 a lots on LAN vs my older brothers and myself, later from 2002 to 2004 via dial-up (couldn't get better internet back then thanks to awesome deutsche telekom). Then he returned to starcraft at end of 2008...

so I'd conclude that your statement that he played "a bit" on ICCUP is "a bit" of an understatement.

TY for your insight on the situation, good to know for sure! =D
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
September 17 2010 21:16 GMT
#513
On September 18 2010 06:07 TBO wrote:
well he first played 1999 or 2000 a lots on LAN vs my older brothers and myself, later from 2002 to 2004 via dial-up (couldn't get better internet back then thanks to awesome deutsche telekom). Then he returned to starcraft at end of 2008...

so I'd conclude that your statement that he played "a bit" on ICCUP is "a bit" of an understatement.

Thanks for clearing that up manbrodude.

I wonder if NaDa improved a bunch since the IEM showmatch tho. I wanna see a rematch at the next GSL finals. heh.
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Incognitodies
Profile Joined April 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
September 17 2010 21:20 GMT
#514
I thought a while back Nada said that he would have to go into the military about the time SC2 came out, how much longer does he have before he has to go into conscription?
ket-
Profile Joined April 2010
97 Posts
September 17 2010 21:37 GMT
#515
On September 17 2010 22:16 rtsAlaran wrote:
SC2 finally takes over!
Korean Progamers for each race gogo
Zerg - check!
Terran - check!
Protoss - to come next!

*sort of excited*


Protoss - Tester. Nothing to come "next", that guy is sick already, fairly sure any real top scbw progamer wouldn't make him look that bad in sc2, well not before some time at least.
HiyA is bestest.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 17 2010 21:44 GMT
#516
I bet he will join Liquid to make up for quitting vs. TLO in the middle of the show-match game. I know it wasn't his fault, but I bet he still feels pretty bad about it. Gogo Liquid admins, get Nada!
$♥$
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 21:50:46
September 17 2010 21:49 GMT
#517
On September 18 2010 05:17 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 05:10 Wings wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:58 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:56 vica wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.

really? i can guarantee they wont do as good as u think. I challenge anyone here to outmacro/outplay me. I'll prove to u BW mechanics mean nothing in sc2
pride.726
lets go : )

hahaha nobody said they were "macroing better than most of the top bw players outside of korea"... except YOU. If you want to prove your point, you should play THEM, instead of trying to act all cool and trying to save face and challenging the people laughing at you.


Well I thought people outside of korea who had been playing bw for over 6+ years in the scene have good macro. I mean they have played it alot you would think that it would transfer over from bw rite?
I just find it hard to believe you are so ignorant about how good these guys actually are. There is no doubt they were top of the line BW players but its just completely stupid to say oh ye they come in and win all leagues and be years ahead of everyone else. i mean cmon. They don't even dominate the ladder. I just fail to see why you guys are so up thinking there going to be the best player ever because bw players are just naturally better. I mean cmon? TLO wasn't even really a BW player.
there are tons of new talent thats going to be > then old talent.
It feels like preaching atheism to a group of christians.


this guy should get banned for blasphemy

IT'S FUCKIN NADA
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
September 17 2010 22:16 GMT
#518
On September 18 2010 02:40 Mohdoo wrote:
[image loading]

how dare you........
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
September 17 2010 23:23 GMT
#519
On September 18 2010 05:17 FindingPride wrote:
TLO wasn't even really a BW player.

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/IPS.Radio.html

Yeah, TLO didn't play BW at all.

Clearly.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
burnout_128
Profile Joined March 2010
United States12 Posts
September 17 2010 23:30 GMT
#520
Maybe I should start to pay some attention to the starcraft 2 scene now... Nada fighting
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 23:39:07
September 17 2010 23:38 GMT
#521
On September 18 2010 05:17 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 05:10 Wings wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:58 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:56 vica wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.

really? i can guarantee they wont do as good as u think. I challenge anyone here to outmacro/outplay me. I'll prove to u BW mechanics mean nothing in sc2
pride.726
lets go : )

hahaha nobody said they were "macroing better than most of the top bw players outside of korea"... except YOU. If you want to prove your point, you should play THEM, instead of trying to act all cool and trying to save face and challenging the people laughing at you.


Well I thought people outside of korea who had been playing bw for over 6+ years in the scene have good macro. I mean they have played it alot you would think that it would transfer over from bw rite?
I just find it hard to believe you are so ignorant about how good these guys actually are. There is no doubt they were top of the line BW players but its just completely stupid to say oh ye they come in and win all leagues and be years ahead of everyone else. i mean cmon. They don't even dominate the ladder. I just fail to see why you guys are so up thinking there going to be the best player ever because bw players are just naturally better. I mean cmon? TLO wasn't even really a BW player.
there are tons of new talent thats going to be > then old talent.
It feels like preaching atheism to a group of christians.


your recent string of posts are soo ignorant, its only natural that most people are laughing at you. I mean, how can anyone take what you say seriously, when you didnt even know that TLO played a TON of broodwar.

These korean progamers are obviously going to be a step above in terms of macro/mechanics, because they have specialized in it for the last 12years. The hotkeys can all be learned, the timings can be learned, but the ability to constantly remember everything, and maintaining 400 useful apm is something only koreans have been able to do (otherwise you would see more foreigners winning in bw). Nada has already played TLO and took a game off of him, without much practice at all. Im guessing this is due to his INSANE MACRO/MECHANICS.

Lastly, its very clear you know absolutely nothing about the korean progamers, or even you would think what you just said is retarded. Fruitseller and idra are both already considered the very best of players, yet both of them failed at broodwar due to subpar mechanics. If these subpar broodwar players are cleaning house in sc2, what do you think will happen when someone as accomplished as Nada takes it serious?

All in all, in my opinion, your just clueless and very much inexperienced in the starcraft world.
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
September 17 2010 23:39 GMT
#522
This is so awesome remember the showmatch between TLO and NaDa.

He had been playing for ONLY a few days, and competed against TLO who had around 4-5 months of playing SC2 and did really well.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 23:58:44
September 17 2010 23:57 GMT
#523
I wonder if TLO sparked NaDa's change to SC2?
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
September 18 2010 00:00 GMT
#524
On September 18 2010 08:57 Terrakin wrote:
I wonder if TLO sparked NaDa's change to SC2?


I think the $85,000US first place prize of GSL had a little more sway on him than TLO did.
TheEpicLolz
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada72 Posts
September 18 2010 00:00 GMT
#525
I think guys.. Really, NaDa to TLO is sort of like... Boxer to Flash?

That may not be the best theory but.. yeah. NaDa's a bit old, whereas TLO is new and fresh. However, NaDa is still better at BW than TLO is at BW... and NaDa's played less of SC2... So in fact, I'm not even sure where I'm going with this.

Well whatever, I think NaDa and July have great potential in SC2. XD
Lol :D
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
September 18 2010 00:23 GMT
#526
On September 18 2010 09:00 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 08:57 Terrakin wrote:
I wonder if TLO sparked NaDa's change to SC2?


I think the $85,000US first place prize of GSL had a little more sway on him than TLO did.


Well I read earlier in this thread (so hearsay) that Nada is the highest paid BW player, so I don't think motivation is a factor. Perhaps he actually finds SC2 fun?! =P
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
September 18 2010 00:59 GMT
#527
On September 18 2010 09:23 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 09:00 eXigent. wrote:
On September 18 2010 08:57 Terrakin wrote:
I wonder if TLO sparked NaDa's change to SC2?


I think the $85,000US first place prize of GSL had a little more sway on him than TLO did.


Well I read earlier in this thread (so hearsay) that Nada is the highest paid BW player, so I don't think motivation is a factor. Perhaps he actually finds SC2 fun?! =P


There are many many billionaires in the world who still seek more fortune. Just because someone made money doing 1 thing, doesnt mean they wont work as hard as they can to make money in another. Bills are lifelong, and after reading about progamer lifestyles etc, im pretty sure Nada will run outta money more sooner than later.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 01:18:24
September 18 2010 01:08 GMT
#528
On September 18 2010 09:59 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 09:23 Ocedic wrote:
On September 18 2010 09:00 eXigent. wrote:
On September 18 2010 08:57 Terrakin wrote:
I wonder if TLO sparked NaDa's change to SC2?


I think the $85,000US first place prize of GSL had a little more sway on him than TLO did.


Well I read earlier in this thread (so hearsay) that Nada is the highest paid BW player, so I don't think motivation is a factor. Perhaps he actually finds SC2 fun?! =P


There are many many billionaires in the world who still seek more fortune. Just because someone made money doing 1 thing, doesnt mean they wont work as hard as they can to make money in another. Bills are lifelong, and after reading about progamer lifestyles etc, im pretty sure Nada will run outta money more sooner than later.

First off (to Ocedic), NaDa hasn't been the highest paid BW player in years, though even long after his peak he did still make a very high salary for just being an icon and drawing in the fans (like Boxer). That said, your point makes no sense since he isn't making "more fortune" in this move, at least not in the short run. He gave up a salary that would require more than twice the 1st place in GSL per year, not to mention great job security. Now yes, there is a chance he can end up winning several tournaments per year and get high endorsements and come out on top financially in this move, but thats a pretty big gamble. As such, saying he moved to SC2 for the money is kind of dumb. The old generation stars really had no worries after hitting their peaks, as they were more than welcome to stay on lineups and bring the fans, become coaches, casters, etc.

He likely moved because its another chance for him to possibly shine as he once did in BW instead of being on the sidelines. Money-wise I would imagine he's doing quite fine so he won't be living off ramen while following this opportunity, and lets him see if he can possibly rise again.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 18 2010 01:26 GMT
#529
On September 18 2010 08:38 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 05:17 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 05:10 Wings wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:58 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:56 vica wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On September 17 2010 22:49 Zangaxx wrote:
How much better are the mechanics of these korean players? Are they far ahead on macro/multitasking? And how is there general sense of strategy compared to the western pros?


We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.

really? i can guarantee they wont do as good as u think. I challenge anyone here to outmacro/outplay me. I'll prove to u BW mechanics mean nothing in sc2
pride.726
lets go : )

hahaha nobody said they were "macroing better than most of the top bw players outside of korea"... except YOU. If you want to prove your point, you should play THEM, instead of trying to act all cool and trying to save face and challenging the people laughing at you.


Well I thought people outside of korea who had been playing bw for over 6+ years in the scene have good macro. I mean they have played it alot you would think that it would transfer over from bw rite?
I just find it hard to believe you are so ignorant about how good these guys actually are. There is no doubt they were top of the line BW players but its just completely stupid to say oh ye they come in and win all leagues and be years ahead of everyone else. i mean cmon. They don't even dominate the ladder. I just fail to see why you guys are so up thinking there going to be the best player ever because bw players are just naturally better. I mean cmon? TLO wasn't even really a BW player.
there are tons of new talent thats going to be > then old talent.
It feels like preaching atheism to a group of christians.

Fruitseller and idra are both already considered the very best of players, yet both of them failed at broodwar due to subpar mechanics.


I don't claim to know a lot, but I think there's a lot more to idra's mediocrity as a bw player than just weak mechanics. He got out-thought as well.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 18 2010 02:27 GMT
#530
On September 18 2010 09:00 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 08:57 Terrakin wrote:
I wonder if TLO sparked NaDa's change to SC2?


I think the $85,000US first place prize of GSL had a little more sway on him than TLO did.


NaDa would've made a lot more money just sticking with Brood War...$85K isn't even half of his old salary. Y'know, guaranteed pay.

He switched because he wants to be on top again, because he's washed up in terms of Brood War and can't really compete anymore. Same goes for July. Same goes for the B-teamers who went to SC2. Same goes for people like Tester. If the people jumping ship to SC2 could play Brood War at a high level they'd stick to Brood War, there's more money to be made in the form of a consistent salary (not even counting individual leagues) and the game is more popular and has more fans in South Korea.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
September 18 2010 02:29 GMT
#531
Holy crap, good for SC2. ^^
觀過斯知仁矣.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
September 18 2010 02:46 GMT
#532
On September 18 2010 10:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 08:38 eXigent. wrote:
On September 18 2010 05:17 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 05:10 Wings wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:58 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:56 vica wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
On September 17 2010 23:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
[quote]

We can compare to idra, who made it onto the B team
who would lose to shitty A team players like MVP or Hyuk
who would get rocked by solid A team players like Kal or Sea
who would get stomped on by Jaedong or Flash

there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.

really? i can guarantee they wont do as good as u think. I challenge anyone here to outmacro/outplay me. I'll prove to u BW mechanics mean nothing in sc2
pride.726
lets go : )

hahaha nobody said they were "macroing better than most of the top bw players outside of korea"... except YOU. If you want to prove your point, you should play THEM, instead of trying to act all cool and trying to save face and challenging the people laughing at you.


Well I thought people outside of korea who had been playing bw for over 6+ years in the scene have good macro. I mean they have played it alot you would think that it would transfer over from bw rite?
I just find it hard to believe you are so ignorant about how good these guys actually are. There is no doubt they were top of the line BW players but its just completely stupid to say oh ye they come in and win all leagues and be years ahead of everyone else. i mean cmon. They don't even dominate the ladder. I just fail to see why you guys are so up thinking there going to be the best player ever because bw players are just naturally better. I mean cmon? TLO wasn't even really a BW player.
there are tons of new talent thats going to be > then old talent.
It feels like preaching atheism to a group of christians.

Fruitseller and idra are both already considered the very best of players, yet both of them failed at broodwar due to subpar mechanics.


I don't claim to know a lot, but I think there's a lot more to idra's mediocrity as a bw player than just weak mechanics. He got out-thought as well.

IdrA was only mediocre in the context of contracted Korean progamers on established progaming teams. The fact that he could compete and practice with them evidenced overwhelming skill on the scale of BW's immense skill gradient. Leading up to SC2's release he won slews of international events in BW.

Regardless of transferability of skill, those who succeed at SC2 will be incredibly talented people, in some way or another. Former BW icons have already demonstrated legendary talent; time will tell whether such talent is what it takes to succeed in this new game.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
MoriyaGXP
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)240 Posts
September 18 2010 03:15 GMT
#533
Season 2 will be with all-star old gamer?

I want JD in lol
Jaedong/Bisu/Tossgirl fan <3
Gruntt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States175 Posts
September 18 2010 04:18 GMT
#534
Come on, played 10 days and held TLO to a tough 3 game series, this guy is going to beast his awesome all over everyone's face.

The only man to win 3 OSL and 3 MSL

The great...

NADA
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 04:26:28
September 18 2010 04:25 GMT
#535
On September 18 2010 11:46 EchOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 10:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 18 2010 08:38 eXigent. wrote:
On September 18 2010 05:17 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 05:10 Wings wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:58 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:56 vica wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:48 FindingPride wrote:
On September 18 2010 04:46 Cade wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:43 FindingPride wrote:
[quote]
there mechanics and macro dont transfer over. at all.
As a wc3 player i was macroing better then most of the top bw players outside of korea on the ladder
if anything they'll just catch up fast but we won't see any large gap in skill. There are new players arising.


Hahahahahaha most unbelievably LOL worthy post I've seen on TL in the recent past.

well I knew this kind of response would happen. Oh well people are just ignorant. sc is not sc2.
the interface is much different. the macro mechanics are much different everything about the game is much different. There macro isn't some innate skill but rather a mental tick through lots and lots of training.
Building times are much different so plz dont sit here and say they can hit barracks control group and do it much better then anyone else just because they played bw


Because mechanics don't carry over. Macro is an innate skill. The skill to be able to understand and remember hundreds of timings. They have done so in Brood War, after learning every build order, and they can do the same in Starcraft 2. I can't believe you're even arguing this.

really? i can guarantee they wont do as good as u think. I challenge anyone here to outmacro/outplay me. I'll prove to u BW mechanics mean nothing in sc2
pride.726
lets go : )

hahaha nobody said they were "macroing better than most of the top bw players outside of korea"... except YOU. If you want to prove your point, you should play THEM, instead of trying to act all cool and trying to save face and challenging the people laughing at you.


Well I thought people outside of korea who had been playing bw for over 6+ years in the scene have good macro. I mean they have played it alot you would think that it would transfer over from bw rite?
I just find it hard to believe you are so ignorant about how good these guys actually are. There is no doubt they were top of the line BW players but its just completely stupid to say oh ye they come in and win all leagues and be years ahead of everyone else. i mean cmon. They don't even dominate the ladder. I just fail to see why you guys are so up thinking there going to be the best player ever because bw players are just naturally better. I mean cmon? TLO wasn't even really a BW player.
there are tons of new talent thats going to be > then old talent.
It feels like preaching atheism to a group of christians.

Fruitseller and idra are both already considered the very best of players, yet both of them failed at broodwar due to subpar mechanics.


I don't claim to know a lot, but I think there's a lot more to idra's mediocrity as a bw player than just weak mechanics. He got out-thought as well.

IdrA was only mediocre in the context of contracted Korean progamers on established progaming teams. The fact that he could compete and practice with them evidenced overwhelming skill on the scale of BW's immense skill gradient. Leading up to SC2's release he won slews of international events in BW.


Yeah, I know isn't idra 'mediocre' at bw when you compare him to the global average, in the same way tossgirl isn't 'bad' by any standard except that of the male proleagues... doesn't really have anything to do with what we were discussing.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Shaithis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States383 Posts
September 18 2010 05:19 GMT
#536
On September 18 2010 11:27 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 09:00 eXigent. wrote:
On September 18 2010 08:57 Terrakin wrote:
I wonder if TLO sparked NaDa's change to SC2?


I think the $85,000US first place prize of GSL had a little more sway on him than TLO did.


NaDa would've made a lot more money just sticking with Brood War...$85K isn't even half of his old salary. Y'know, guaranteed pay.

He switched because he wants to be on top again, because he's washed up in terms of Brood War and can't really compete anymore. Same goes for July. Same goes for the B-teamers who went to SC2. Same goes for people like Tester. If the people jumping ship to SC2 could play Brood War at a high level they'd stick to Brood War, there's more money to be made in the form of a consistent salary (not even counting individual leagues) and the game is more popular and has more fans in South Korea.


OK, let's do some math. $170k per year vs $85k per tournament.

...
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 18 2010 05:32 GMT
#537
FUCK YEAH NADA :D
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
omgbbq2
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada169 Posts
September 18 2010 05:47 GMT
#538
this is good, now if only jaedong and flash transfer over
Elevators
Profile Joined March 2010
United States56 Posts
September 18 2010 06:48 GMT
#539
On September 18 2010 09:00 TheEpicLolz wrote:
I think guys.. Really, NaDa to TLO is sort of like... Boxer to Flash?

That may not be the best theory but.. yeah. NaDa's a bit old, whereas TLO is new and fresh. However, NaDa is still better at BW than TLO is at BW... and NaDa's played less of SC2... So in fact, I'm not even sure where I'm going with this.

Well whatever, I think NaDa and July have great potential in SC2. XD


I'm sorry, but that analogy is WAYYYYY off. Boxer = NaDa and Flash = TLO??? O_o

I like TLO as much as the next guy but really... what has he achieved so far in SC2 to even think he's up to the caliber of player as NaDa. That's not to say that TLO doesn't have the potential to be great, but you must realize that NaDa has already proven himself as being able to get to the very top of an esport and stay on top for a very long time.

A much more accurate analogy would be TLO = TLO and NaDa = The motherf@#$ing Genius Terran: NaDa!!!!

Elevators can never be broken. They can only become stairs... wait, that's escalators! SHIT!!!
ZeTLeE
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)2 Posts
September 18 2010 06:51 GMT
#540
On September 18 2010 02:15 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!


found a interesting picture here.

http://lsm_rs57.blog.me/80115462797

tester(sSKS):Bro, did you enroll yohan(Boxer) on the list of friends?
HopeTorture:You...
HopeTorture: I am on the air.
HopeTorture:;;
tester:;
HopeTorture:Shit.


and another picture. please scroll down.
http://blog.naver.com/dyk02?Redirect=Log&logNo=50095889325

I am here!
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
September 18 2010 06:57 GMT
#541
On September 18 2010 15:51 ZeTLeE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 02:15 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!


found a interesting picture here.

http://lsm_rs57.blog.me/80115462797

tester(sSKS):Bro, did you enroll yohan(Boxer) on the list of friends?
HopeTorture:You...
HopeTorture: I am on the air.
HopeTorture:;;
tester:;
HopeTorture:Shit.


and another picture. please scroll down.
http://blog.naver.com/dyk02?Redirect=Log&logNo=50095889325



That is a pretty big blunder, its like when Morrow told BigT he wasn't sorry for not allowing commentators in the game. You have to be careful about that stuff.
^O^
MrWinkles
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States200 Posts
September 18 2010 07:15 GMT
#542
I am more excited about Nada than July... while I love July, I keep thinking back to that game Nada played against Jangbi in the MSL ro8 a year or so ago which was about as perfect starcraft as any terran had ever played... he has the most titles, and he still has the ability. Can't wait to see him play SC2!
What does the knight do?
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
September 18 2010 07:16 GMT
#543
On September 18 2010 15:51 ZeTLeE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 02:15 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!


found a interesting picture here.

http://lsm_rs57.blog.me/80115462797

tester(sSKS):Bro, did you enroll yohan(Boxer) on the list of friends?
HopeTorture:You...
HopeTorture: I am on the air.
HopeTorture:;;
tester:;
HopeTorture:Shit.


and another picture. please scroll down.
http://blog.naver.com/dyk02?Redirect=Log&logNo=50095889325


So... 무명 = boxer?
That would be rather logical. 무명 is a solid solid player.
Hi!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 07:20:16
September 18 2010 07:18 GMT
#544
On September 18 2010 16:16 ooni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 15:51 ZeTLeE wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:15 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!


found a interesting picture here.

http://lsm_rs57.blog.me/80115462797

tester(sSKS):Bro, did you enroll yohan(Boxer) on the list of friends?
HopeTorture:You...
HopeTorture: I am on the air.
HopeTorture:;;
tester:;
HopeTorture:Shit.


and another picture. please scroll down.
http://blog.naver.com/dyk02?Redirect=Log&logNo=50095889325


So... 무명 = boxer?
That would be rather logical. 무명 is a solid solid player.

요환 is boxer, the 2nd and 3rd characters on the 1st line of that screenshot
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
September 18 2010 07:19 GMT
#545
On September 18 2010 16:18 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 16:16 ooni wrote:
On September 18 2010 15:51 ZeTLeE wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:15 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!


found a interesting picture here.

http://lsm_rs57.blog.me/80115462797

tester(sSKS):Bro, did you enroll yohan(Boxer) on the list of friends?
HopeTorture:You...
HopeTorture: I am on the air.
HopeTorture:;;
tester:;
HopeTorture:Shit.


and another picture. please scroll down.
http://blog.naver.com/dyk02?Redirect=Log&logNo=50095889325


So... 무명 = boxer?
That would be rather logical. 무명 is a solid solid player.

요환 is boxer.

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/753166/무명
no 무명 the player....
Hi!
berzerger
Profile Joined September 2010
Turkey95 Posts
September 18 2010 07:39 GMT
#546
On September 18 2010 15:51 ZeTLeE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 02:15 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!


found a interesting picture here.

http://lsm_rs57.blog.me/80115462797

tester(sSKS):Bro, did you enroll yohan(Boxer) on the list of friends?
HopeTorture:You...
HopeTorture: I am on the air.
HopeTorture:;;
tester:;
HopeTorture:Shit.


and another picture. please scroll down.
http://blog.naver.com/dyk02?Redirect=Log&logNo=50095889325




I didn't get it.
Is it because boxer is not allowed to play sc2 for now and shouldn't be seen in public?
and HopeTorture(IntoTheRainbow) adds boxer to his flist then it becomes public that boxer plays sc2?

aru
Profile Joined April 2010
183 Posts
September 18 2010 08:12 GMT
#547
On September 18 2010 14:19 Shaithis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 11:27 overt wrote:
On September 18 2010 09:00 eXigent. wrote:
On September 18 2010 08:57 Terrakin wrote:
I wonder if TLO sparked NaDa's change to SC2?


I think the $85,000US first place prize of GSL had a little more sway on him than TLO did.


NaDa would've made a lot more money just sticking with Brood War...$85K isn't even half of his old salary. Y'know, guaranteed pay.

He switched because he wants to be on top again, because he's washed up in terms of Brood War and can't really compete anymore. Same goes for July. Same goes for the B-teamers who went to SC2. Same goes for people like Tester. If the people jumping ship to SC2 could play Brood War at a high level they'd stick to Brood War, there's more money to be made in the form of a consistent salary (not even counting individual leagues) and the game is more popular and has more fans in South Korea.


OK, let's do some math. $170k per year vs $85k per tournament.

...


Alternatively, 170k+ per year (with paid housing and food) vs 0 per tournament, because he doesn't win anything.
azr
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway144 Posts
September 18 2010 08:30 GMT
#548
On September 18 2010 16:39 berzerger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 15:51 ZeTLeE wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:15 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!


found a interesting picture here.

http://lsm_rs57.blog.me/80115462797

tester(sSKS):Bro, did you enroll yohan(Boxer) on the list of friends?
HopeTorture:You...
HopeTorture: I am on the air.
HopeTorture:;;
tester:;
HopeTorture:Shit.


and another picture. please scroll down.
http://blog.naver.com/dyk02?Redirect=Log&logNo=50095889325




I didn't get it.
Is it because boxer is not allowed to play sc2 for now and shouldn't be seen in public?
and HopeTorture(IntoTheRainbow) adds boxer to his flist then it becomes public that boxer plays sc2?



It becomes public when it is revealed on a public stream like that.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
September 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#549
I really doubt Nada's salary was 170k per year. Maybe 1-4 years ago
Buhlbaid
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain32 Posts
September 18 2010 11:21 GMT
#550
Oh my god i really like NaDa. 1st July and 2nd NaDa. This gives a lot of class to sc2 and real Idols to follow. GO TornaDo TeRRaN!!!!!!
"There is no subjetct so old that something new cannot be said about it." -Dostoievski
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 18 2010 11:24 GMT
#551
On September 18 2010 20:09 DarkspearTribe wrote:
I really doubt Nada's salary was 170k per year. Maybe 1-4 years ago


i think he got around $800.000 for 3 years in his last contract?

something along the lines of that anyway
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11822 Posts
September 18 2010 11:32 GMT
#552
On September 18 2010 20:24 Pulimuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 20:09 DarkspearTribe wrote:
I really doubt Nada's salary was 170k per year. Maybe 1-4 years ago


i think he got around $800.000 for 3 years in his last contract?

something along the lines of that anyway


He still was very good at that point in time. Since then he hasn't done anything major.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 12:31:53
September 18 2010 12:27 GMT
#553
On September 18 2010 20:09 DarkspearTribe wrote:
I really doubt Nada's salary was 170k per year. Maybe 1-4 years ago

pretty sure nada had a multi year contract for ~200k a year
obviously wasnt going to get that much again with a new contract which was probably why he left
On September 18 2010 20:32 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 20:24 Pulimuli wrote:
On September 18 2010 20:09 DarkspearTribe wrote:
I really doubt Nada's salary was 170k per year. Maybe 1-4 years ago


i think he got around $800.000 for 3 years in his last contract?

something along the lines of that anyway


He still was very good at that point in time. Since then he hasn't done anything major.

whats your point? hes still nada and attracts fans and attention to the team on his fame alone. kind of like how lebron james is projected to stimulate billions of dollars for whichever city (miami) he was going to be playing for in the NBA (and he hasnt won anything ever)
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
September 18 2010 13:06 GMT
#554
Nada's contract is over, you guys. So he WAS making 200k a year or whatever, but how much do you think he'd make if they renewed his contract? Now is a scary time to renew a contract to KESPA.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 13:11:13
September 18 2010 13:09 GMT
#555
On September 18 2010 20:09 DarkspearTribe wrote:
I really doubt Nada's salary was 170k per year. Maybe 1-4 years ago


if he had a multi year deal doesnt matter what hes doing now

edit - Oh yea and this is super awesome news. Nada is the most awesomest T player ever. Nada vs Savior series were pretty epic too. Hopefully he crushes sc2 as well.
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 13:21:10
September 18 2010 13:20 GMT
#556
On September 18 2010 16:39 berzerger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 15:51 ZeTLeE wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:15 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!


found a interesting picture here.

http://lsm_rs57.blog.me/80115462797

tester(sSKS):Bro, did you enroll yohan(Boxer) on the list of friends?
HopeTorture:You...
HopeTorture: I am on the air.
HopeTorture:;;
tester:;
HopeTorture:Shit.


and another picture. please scroll down.
http://blog.naver.com/dyk02?Redirect=Log&logNo=50095889325




I didn't get it.
Is it because boxer is not allowed to play sc2 for now and shouldn't be seen in public?
and HopeTorture(IntoTheRainbow) adds boxer to his flist then it becomes public that boxer plays sc2?


+ Show Spoiler +

I don't get it.. IntoTheRainbow isn't playing in an airplane is he? How does he fly?


What event was this at? Or was it just a stream?That is pretty crazy stuff O_O. Hope BoxeR doesn't get shot by some BW extremists.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
September 18 2010 13:27 GMT
#557
S-Class. Gamer 4 Life. This is the best e-sports story of all time.
Former giant's comeback to glory. Can he make it happen?
No sponsors, no hand-outs... He's gonna train his way into the GSL or fail hard. Can't wait to see what happens.
Utopi
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark176 Posts
September 18 2010 13:43 GMT
#558
I think its pretty strange that he actually left WeMadeFox to play SC II. I mean couldn't WMF easily make a sc2 team as well?
no.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
September 18 2010 15:06 GMT
#559
On September 18 2010 22:43 Utopi wrote:
I think its pretty strange that he actually left WeMadeFox to play SC II. I mean couldn't WMF easily make a sc2 team as well?

KeSPA says hi
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
September 18 2010 15:17 GMT
#560
무명 apparently means "anonymity". Probably bad translation (Google) but makes sense if it is someone famous.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
September 18 2010 15:55 GMT
#561
NaDa, July and now rumours of boxer aswell, think i just jizzed all over my keyboard.
zanbo123
Profile Joined August 2010
68 Posts
September 18 2010 17:32 GMT
#562
wow i just lost all my motivation to go to the GSL Lol... not only does it cost foreigners thousands just to get to korea, but to compete against NaDa is like trying to make pigs fly. its NEVER Going to happen! T_T hahah..
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
September 18 2010 18:07 GMT
#563
I really cant wait to see NaDa completely rape idra and to see the rage
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
September 18 2010 20:43 GMT
#564
On September 19 2010 02:32 zanbo123 wrote:
wow i just lost all my motivation to go to the GSL Lol... not only does it cost foreigners thousands just to get to korea, but to compete against NaDa is like trying to make pigs fly. its NEVER Going to happen! T_T hahah..


u got it all wrong u should have huge motivation boost because you could actually play versys Julyzerg or NaDa , think about that...
TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
September 18 2010 21:05 GMT
#565
Nada vs July incoming!
SlayerS_BoxeR FTW ///// Long live the Emperor
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
September 18 2010 21:20 GMT
#566
no point arguing with reason.

bw fanboys just gonna yell

LOL Na/Eu are trash compared to Koreans ! Koreans are genetically superior !

PulseNova
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia29 Posts
September 19 2010 00:14 GMT
#567
On September 19 2010 00:06 DarkspearTribe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 22:43 Utopi wrote:
I think its pretty strange that he actually left WeMadeFox to play SC II. I mean couldn't WMF easily make a sc2 team as well?

KeSPA says hi


Actually, KeSPA says "NO WE WILL NOT LET YOU PLAY CAPITALIST GAMES LIKE SC2"
6pool ftw
sudo.era
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 00:41:43
September 19 2010 00:36 GMT
#568
On September 19 2010 06:20 Vz0 wrote:
no point arguing with reason.

bw fanboys just gonna yell

LOL Na/Eu are trash compared to Koreans ! Koreans are genetically superior !


The argument that they will crush competition is not in their lineage, but in the fact that they're established progamers. It has already been proven that BW skills translate over well to SC2. Idra showed us that throughout the beta. What, then, happens when BW's best (much better than Idra) make the transition? The answer is obvious. You'll start seeing many of the same old names fighting for top spots in SC2. Disregarding the fact that they're Korean, the best SC progamers are those on teams like SKT1, Fox, Oz, etc (ie not foreign teams).

I do think there's plenty of room for foreigners to work, though. Just like in the beginning of BW, we'll see an influx of impressive foreign players doing just as well as the best Korean players. Whether there will be a shift over to Korean dominance like there was in BW, we have yet to see.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 19 2010 01:43 GMT
#569
On September 19 2010 03:07 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
I really cant wait to see NaDa completely rape idra and to see the rage

pretty sure nada is idra's idol. i bet idra would be honored to get raped by nada
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
September 19 2010 02:45 GMT
#570
Welp, I guess the foreigner days are over.
Being weak is a choice.
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
September 19 2010 02:48 GMT
#571
On September 19 2010 10:43 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 03:07 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
I really cant wait to see NaDa completely rape idra and to see the rage

i bet idra would be honored to get raped by nada

Oh god i laughed sooo hard , it caught me off guard
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 02:51:26
September 19 2010 02:50 GMT
#572
On September 19 2010 11:48 Tiax;mous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 10:43 billyX333 wrote:
On September 19 2010 03:07 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
I really cant wait to see NaDa completely rape idra and to see the rage

i bet idra would be honored to get raped by nada

Oh god i laughed sooo hard , it caught me off guard


LOL me2.
hopwefuullly idra will aadvance past ro32 this oct
civil cervixes || Kang Min Fan || I like TLO, TLO= German, I like Germans..?
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
September 19 2010 05:36 GMT
#573
On September 19 2010 09:36 sudo.era wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 06:20 Vz0 wrote:
no point arguing with reason.

bw fanboys just gonna yell

LOL Na/Eu are trash compared to Koreans ! Koreans are genetically superior !


The argument that they will crush competition is not in their lineage, but in the fact that they're established progamers. It has already been proven that BW skills translate over well to SC2. Idra showed us that throughout the beta. What, then, happens when BW's best (much better than Idra) make the transition? The answer is obvious. You'll start seeing many of the same old names fighting for top spots in SC2. Disregarding the fact that they're Korean, the best SC progamers are those on teams like SKT1, Fox, Oz, etc (ie not foreign teams).

I do think there's plenty of room for foreigners to work, though. Just like in the beginning of BW, we'll see an influx of impressive foreign players doing just as well as the best Korean players. Whether there will be a shift over to Korean dominance like there was in BW, we have yet to see.

agree with you fully.

but I don't agree wtih the "nada will play 1 month and win the GSL "
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
September 19 2010 06:13 GMT
#574
Even if the Koreans start dominating, the foreigners still got iem, mlg, and plenty of other tournaments to compete in. It's not like there are tournaments only in Korea.
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
September 19 2010 06:37 GMT
#575
SHIT JUST GOT REAL. Nada with the current state of terran will be completely unstoppable. Too bad he missed the boat on this GSL though.
CounteR
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand103 Posts
September 19 2010 20:56 GMT
#576
July and now NaDa !! Hopefully all the others join them ^^
GG GL HF
MrGrieves-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada23 Posts
September 19 2010 21:03 GMT
#577
This GSL rocks but still I can't wait for the 2nd one!
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 19 2010 21:03 GMT
#578
boom. headshot
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
some_noob
Profile Joined August 2010
160 Posts
September 19 2010 21:16 GMT
#579
I really really hope this is genuine and not some "paid switch" by bliz :>
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
September 19 2010 21:26 GMT
#580
On September 20 2010 06:16 some_noob wrote:
I really really hope this is genuine and not some "paid switch" by bliz :>

I really doubt that they could keep that a secret lol. My rule of thumb is that when in doubt, it's usually not a conspiracy. It really should be yours too.
GreenTea1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States31 Posts
September 19 2010 21:48 GMT
#581
to be fair, a good number of players in sc2 clans were ex-progamers, but its still really great that a player like nada has come to sc2.
when nada starts destroying everyone, will you dare say 'imbalance'? more like imbalance of skill xD
"Sometimes i think that the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." -Calvin
jungle
Profile Joined July 2010
United States31 Posts
September 20 2010 00:05 GMT
#582
dda.fkahmszhkls;oPJAFbdlksajz,mbxzl;sac]v IM SO EXCITED !!!!!
"nice dolphin nigga"
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
September 20 2010 02:51 GMT
#583
On September 20 2010 05:56 CounteR wrote:
July and now NaDa !! Hopefully all the others join them ^^

Please no...not just yet!
Maybe when all the expansions are out
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
September 21 2010 04:51 GMT
#584
On September 20 2010 06:48 greentea wrote:
to be fair, a good number of players in sc2 clans were ex-progamers, but its still really great that a player like nada has come to sc2.
when nada starts destroying everyone, will you dare say 'imbalance'? more like imbalance of skill xD


As I like to put it "Blizzard, plz nerf asians" ^^
Personally I feel that the game is pretty much equal right now actually.. definitely the most balanced RTS I've played (no I never really played BW)
Sorry for OT
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Oxb
Profile Joined August 2010
199 Posts
September 21 2010 05:22 GMT
#585
gotta love this, cant wait to see him play
MoriyaGXP
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)240 Posts
September 21 2010 06:10 GMT
#586
to be balance zerg just need a few more new units


Jaedong/Bisu/Tossgirl fan <3
necroticah
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa233 Posts
September 21 2010 12:18 GMT
#587
On September 19 2010 00:55 unkkz wrote:
NaDa, July and now rumours of boxer aswell, think i just jizzed all over my keyboard.


get a nerdcum guard for your board.


On September 21 2010 15:10 MoriyaGXP wrote:
to be balance zerg just need a few more new units




Haha - always a balance post in every thread. No dissapoint.

I wonder if Nada will change races like IdrA did.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 21 2010 12:23 GMT
#588
is there any news on NaDa's account name?? surely some of the korean speakers here have heard of some rumors out there @.@
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
September 21 2010 12:28 GMT
#589
well congradulations blizzard, now there may be a reason to convince me to actually pay for what i used to get for free (live streams)
jaedong imba
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
September 21 2010 13:34 GMT
#590
On September 21 2010 21:28 slappy wrote:
well congradulations blizzard, now there may be a reason to convince me to actually pay for what i used to get for free (live streams)


don't do it!
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 15:25:59
September 21 2010 15:25 GMT
#591
Despite his legendary status / fame, is he currently A teamer level or B Teamer level in BW
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
Domonic
Profile Joined August 2010
United States135 Posts
September 21 2010 15:32 GMT
#592
Geeze-no one knows how sick this dude is. He's not just some random b-team ex brood war pro gamer, he is NaDa.

*Joined the 100 wins in ProLeague Club
*First player to win 3 OSLs
*First player to win 3 MSLs
*Longest time in the KeSPA top 30
*Longest time to hold first place in the KeSPA ranking (with Boxer)
*Received a golden mouse

Thanks Liquipedia, although you had no information on the golden mouse.
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
September 21 2010 18:15 GMT
#593
zerg - julyzerg
terran - nada
protoss - bisu

:O
Watch my gaming channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BedinSpace
Octo_cembeR
Profile Joined September 2010
United States6 Posts
September 22 2010 08:11 GMT
#594
Just checked out Artosis tv on youtube and watched Nada's handspeed; he still has it lol
Korea Hwaiting!!!
Domonkazu
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany29 Posts
September 22 2010 10:16 GMT
#595
now we a have reason to nerf terran
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
September 22 2010 10:19 GMT
#596
Is this guy Nada? http://sc2ranks.com/kr/931025/NaDa

Seems like he started 20 something august
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
September 22 2010 10:25 GMT
#597
just rumors? ohwellz hes a brilliant terran from BW i think he will do really good in sc2. Hes just amazing in all ways.
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
yrag89
Profile Joined July 2008
Malaysia315 Posts
September 22 2010 11:12 GMT
#598
On September 18 2010 22:20 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 16:39 berzerger wrote:
On September 18 2010 15:51 ZeTLeE wrote:
On September 18 2010 02:15 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is pretty exciting! All my favorite old-school players are joining SC2. Hoping for Boxer next, then Reach and Xellos!


found a interesting picture here.

http://lsm_rs57.blog.me/80115462797

tester(sSKS):Bro, did you enroll yohan(Boxer) on the list of friends?
HopeTorture:You...
HopeTorture: I am on the air.
HopeTorture:;;
tester:;
HopeTorture:Shit.


and another picture. please scroll down.
http://blog.naver.com/dyk02?Redirect=Log&logNo=50095889325




I didn't get it.
Is it because boxer is not allowed to play sc2 for now and shouldn't be seen in public?
and HopeTorture(IntoTheRainbow) adds boxer to his flist then it becomes public that boxer plays sc2?


+ Show Spoiler +

I don't get it.. IntoTheRainbow isn't playing in an airplane is he? How does he fly?


What event was this at? Or was it just a stream?That is pretty crazy stuff O_O. Hope BoxeR doesn't get shot by some BW extremists.


On the air is most likely saying "I'm streaming and people are watching" not on an airlplane :S
It's just like the incident with CellaWerra and mym trying to get him while he was streaming.
secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol - charlie420247
YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 17:51:42
September 22 2010 17:50 GMT
#599
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/931025/NaDa

That's Nada...he's ranked #56 worldwide, #19 in Korea, with a 64% win percentage.

+ Show Spoiler +
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You must construct additional pylons.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
September 22 2010 17:53 GMT
#600
And that's NaDa transitioning to sc2 that took him maybe tops a month if you include beta practices (if he did practiced beta).
Imagine if the current top A-teamers were to transition crazy... :O
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
September 22 2010 17:54 GMT
#601
On September 22 2010 00:32 Domonic wrote:
Geeze-no one knows how sick this dude is. He's not just some random b-team ex brood war pro gamer, he is NaDa.

*Joined the 100 wins in ProLeague Club
*First player to win 3 OSLs
*First player to win 3 MSLs
*Longest time in the KeSPA top 30
*Longest time to hold first place in the KeSPA ranking (with Boxer)
*Received a golden mouse

Thanks Liquipedia, although you had no information on the golden mouse.

Golden mouse = win 3 OSL
Golden badge = win 3 MSL
McBrian
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark38 Posts
September 22 2010 19:21 GMT
#602
Can't wait till the next GSL :D
gamecreator
Profile Joined July 2010
United States24 Posts
September 22 2010 23:00 GMT
#603
All the best to him. He's achieved a lot. He made a good try.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1762 Posts
September 23 2010 08:16 GMT
#604
On September 17 2010 11:09 eSen1a wrote:
Liquid`NaDa... one can dream


That would be legendary
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
September 23 2010 09:35 GMT
#605
Boxer next please.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Effen
Profile Joined September 2010
227 Posts
September 24 2010 09:01 GMT
#606
Some of you are quite oblivious...yes I know nada is great and what not and I' not trying to take anything away from him but...its no guarantee he will start to dominate sc2 right away.

We saw this with cs source and 1.6....when some 1.6 big names switched over they didnt' start crushing right away. While the game is similar, it still is different.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 09:02:38
September 24 2010 09:02 GMT
#607
Edit: wrong thread
Domonic
Profile Joined August 2010
United States135 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 09:19:53
September 24 2010 09:19 GMT
#608
On September 24 2010 18:01 Effen wrote:
Some of you are quite oblivious...yes I know nada is great and what not and I' not trying to take anything away from him but...its no guarantee he will start to dominate sc2 right away.

We saw this with cs source and 1.6....when some 1.6 big names switched over they didnt' start crushing right away. While the game is similar, it still is different.


He will start dominating, when he did his unfinished show match against TLO only having played a small amount of time, he had him on his toes.

and that counterstrike comparison is way different
Scoop
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland482 Posts
September 24 2010 11:32 GMT
#609
On September 24 2010 18:01 Effen wrote:
Some of you are quite oblivious...yes I know nada is great and what not and I' not trying to take anything away from him but...its no guarantee he will start to dominate sc2 right away.

We saw this with cs source and 1.6....when some 1.6 big names switched over they didnt' start crushing right away. While the game is similar, it still is different.


NaDa has one of the best winratios on the Korean server and is already at 1775 points. I think that's pretty good.
Lightningbullet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States507 Posts
September 24 2010 23:21 GMT
#610
On September 17 2010 10:50 Sealteam wrote:
It begins!

It ends
BoxeR is AWESOME!!!!//Proud 2nd Member of the BW>SC2 club.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 24 2010 23:28 GMT
#611
Hey does anyone have the VODs for TLO vs NaDa?
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 23:30:51
September 24 2010 23:30 GMT
#612
On September 24 2010 18:01 Effen wrote:
Some of you are quite oblivious...yes I know nada is great and what not and I' not trying to take anything away from him but...its no guarantee he will start to dominate sc2 right away.

We saw this with cs source and 1.6....when some 1.6 big names switched over they didnt' start crushing right away. While the game is similar, it still is different.



Competitive Starcraft is nothing like competitive CS, where in CS everyone has to pull their own weight.

If low tier SC1 progamers like Tester and Cool can do it, then why not Nada?
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
September 24 2010 23:32 GMT
#613
Man can't wait to see Liquid'NaDa
There you go, 400 apm for SC2.
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
TekKpriest
Profile Joined March 2010
308 Posts
September 24 2010 23:32 GMT
#614
On September 25 2010 08:28 Angelbelow wrote:
Hey does anyone have the VODs for TLO vs NaDa?



look @ the esl.tv homepage
A Man chooses, a slave obeys
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
September 24 2010 23:33 GMT
#615
WHOA

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/931025/NaDa

He's second in his division? Is that really who it is in first place?!
Moktira is da bomb
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 24 2010 23:36 GMT
#616
On September 25 2010 08:32 TekKpriest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 08:28 Angelbelow wrote:
Hey does anyone have the VODs for TLO vs NaDa?



look @ the esl.tv homepage


thanks
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
richlol
Profile Joined January 2009
28 Posts
September 24 2010 23:43 GMT
#617
On September 25 2010 08:33 dcberkeley wrote:
WHOA

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/931025/NaDa

He's second in his division? Is that really who it is in first place?!


Oh wow.

There's a large part of me that wants all these real BW pros/gosus/bonjwas/gods to switch and show the B- players like tlo how it's done. There's no doubt that NaDa is a much more skilled player than someone like tlo, but I'm wondering if SC2's dumbed down UI/AI will compensate for such a huge skill difference.

Plus, I'm beginning to suspect that all these foreigners who thought they had a shot at becoming SC2 legends are now realizing that the koreans really do have a firm grip on all of starcraft, one and two.
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
September 24 2010 23:55 GMT
#618
As cool as I think the SC1 pros switching is, I feel like if they start dominating the foreigners it could be bad for esports in the West. It's really hard to keep peoples interest if they know its useless to try to be at the top, just because they aren't Korean.

That's the main reason I root for Idra, because if he can win, then I know, given enough time and practice, I could win too.
On my way...
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
September 25 2010 00:01 GMT
#619
it's in the gene. koreans are far more superior.

j/k.

speaking of nada, he hasn't been laddering.
QkDown
Profile Joined February 2010
United States214 Posts
September 25 2010 00:10 GMT
#620
You people and koreans. Yes they are the best by far now, but why. It's like the "dream team" in the olympics way back when. America wasn't superior to the world in basketball because they were americans, but because it was a focus within their society. Kids grew up watching basketball, and played it constantly. In Korean Esports is heads above everyone else. SC has been a big deal in Korea for 10+yrs. Will Koreans always be the best progamers? Now that the rest of the world is focusing much more, in a couple years the top pro's will be more diverse through out the world. America isn't genetically superior in basketball etc, and korea isn't genetically superior in SC.
NINJA DOWN NINJA DOWN
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
September 25 2010 00:19 GMT
#621
On September 25 2010 09:10 QkDown wrote:
You people and koreans. Yes they are the best by far now, but why. It's like the "dream team" in the olympics way back when. America wasn't superior to the world in basketball because they were americans, but because it was a focus within their society. Kids grew up watching basketball, and played it constantly. In Korean Esports is heads above everyone else. SC has been a big deal in Korea for 10+yrs. Will Koreans always be the best progamers? Now that the rest of the world is focusing much more, in a couple years the top pro's will be more diverse through out the world. America isn't genetically superior in basketball etc, and korea isn't genetically superior in SC.

People that think koreans are born with superior sc ability are simply stupid.

Ignore them.

However, I don't think our western society will ever condone gaming as much as korea will (and they are continuously getting more and more serious on it).

Korea will always be in the lead. That however does not mean that our western players cannot be better, but simply there will be less pros altogether.
Fojji
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom217 Posts
September 25 2010 00:23 GMT
#622
Wow i hope that's iloveoov!

Can't wait to see some reps/vods from NaDa, but i guess all we'll see is the GSL games :/
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
September 25 2010 00:25 GMT
#623
On September 25 2010 09:19 Vz0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 09:10 QkDown wrote:
You people and koreans. Yes they are the best by far now, but why. It's like the "dream team" in the olympics way back when. America wasn't superior to the world in basketball because they were americans, but because it was a focus within their society. Kids grew up watching basketball, and played it constantly. In Korean Esports is heads above everyone else. SC has been a big deal in Korea for 10+yrs. Will Koreans always be the best progamers? Now that the rest of the world is focusing much more, in a couple years the top pro's will be more diverse through out the world. America isn't genetically superior in basketball etc, and korea isn't genetically superior in SC.

People that think koreans are born with superior sc ability are simply stupid.

Ignore them.

However, I don't think our western society will ever condone gaming as much as korea will (and they are continuously getting more and more serious on it).

Korea will always be in the lead. That however does not mean that our western players cannot be better, but simply there will be less pros altogether.


In all of your posts, you take the general admiration for korean skill as some kind of personal attack against your race. I've never seen anyone who has claimed there's some starcraft gene that koreans are superior at. You're basically creating a strawman argument for the sake of martyrdom.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 25 2010 02:45 GMT
#624
On September 25 2010 09:01 Crt wrote:
it's in the gene. koreans are far more superior.

j/k.

speaking of nada, he hasn't been laddering.


His last game was yesterday, and he's on an 18 game winning streak.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
KrSuma
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)148 Posts
September 25 2010 03:53 GMT
#625
Being a Korean myself I cannot stop smiling from all the fun i would have watching the GSL session 2 ^^ Go all the way NaDa!
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
September 25 2010 03:58 GMT
#626

Last time in the KBS’s “Science Café,” tests showed that Flash’s brain activity and regions are different from normal people. What do you personally think is most important aspect of being a progamer?
-To be able to win games, you need everything to align. A desire for victory, confidence, mental conditioning are all important factors. When a live game begins, a lot of players get nervous. Whether or not you can, at this point, conquer the fears and perform like you do in practice becomes crucial. Because of so many factors affecting it, results would obviously vary. Also, varied strategies is also a strong foundation for winning.


I wouldn't be so sure that there's no "Starcraft gene". South Korea has the highest IQ in the world and I'm pretty sure they're genetically able to focus longer, at least if you believe ADD is genetic, Koreans have the opposite of that.
DaRkFrosT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States407 Posts
September 25 2010 07:55 GMT
#627
On September 25 2010 11:45 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 09:01 Crt wrote:
it's in the gene. koreans are far more superior.

j/k.

speaking of nada, he hasn't been laddering.


His last game was yesterday, and he's on an 18 game winning streak.


Make that a 22 game winning streak.
Libera me from hell.
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
September 25 2010 09:30 GMT
#628
Man...Nada's my hero <3
I think I'm gonna switch to Terran because of him...haven't played Terran at all yet 'cause I have self-respect (j/k)
vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
September 25 2010 09:38 GMT
#629
So awesome I can't wait to see him play, hes going to be pretty unstoppable for a bit. Can you imagine the nerves NaDa's opponents will get facing him in comps, he's going to have such an edge!
Day[9] i've broken 6 mice, 5 keyboards, 3 pairs of headphones, and a mousepad, all from raging after starcraft losing streaks
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
September 25 2010 09:40 GMT
#630
so the graph on sc2ranks isn't accurate? it shows he's still 1775 pts. Last 25 matches are updated.
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
September 25 2010 10:02 GMT
#631
On September 25 2010 18:40 Crt wrote:
so the graph on sc2ranks isn't accurate? it shows he's still 1775 pts. Last 25 matches are updated.


what's his name?
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
September 25 2010 12:08 GMT
#632
On September 25 2010 09:19 Vz0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 09:10 QkDown wrote:
You people and koreans. Yes they are the best by far now, but why. It's like the "dream team" in the olympics way back when. America wasn't superior to the world in basketball because they were americans, but because it was a focus within their society. Kids grew up watching basketball, and played it constantly. In Korean Esports is heads above everyone else. SC has been a big deal in Korea for 10+yrs. Will Koreans always be the best progamers? Now that the rest of the world is focusing much more, in a couple years the top pro's will be more diverse through out the world. America isn't genetically superior in basketball etc, and korea isn't genetically superior in SC.

People that think koreans are born with superior sc ability are simply stupid.

Ignore them.

However, I don't think our western society will ever condone gaming as much as korea will (and they are continuously getting more and more serious on it).

Korea will always be in the lead. That however does not mean that our western players cannot be better, but simply there will be less pros altogether.


And there's something else no one seems to adress but which has some impact. Big SC tournaments are in Korea, so koreans are playing at home.

Everyone that is familiar with Mourinho knows he hasn't lost a single football game in over 150 at home, while outside his win rate is about 60%. Make koreans come to Europe and USA and we will see if they manage to be as cool and nervousless as they are there.
Phuelz
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany81 Posts
September 25 2010 12:33 GMT
#633
On September 25 2010 18:40 Crt wrote:
so the graph on sc2ranks isn't accurate? it shows he's still 1775 pts. Last 25 matches are updated.

Looks like that. At least, he has been a 1775 points before.
One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster
mangina
Profile Joined March 2008
United States230 Posts
September 25 2010 12:38 GMT
#634
On September 25 2010 08:43 richlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 08:33 dcberkeley wrote:
WHOA

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/931025/NaDa

He's second in his division? Is that really who it is in first place?!


Oh wow.

There's a large part of me that wants all these real BW pros/gosus/bonjwas/gods to switch and show the B- players like tlo how it's done. There's no doubt that NaDa is a much more skilled player than someone like tlo, but I'm wondering if SC2's dumbed down UI/AI will compensate for such a huge skill difference.

Plus, I'm beginning to suspect that all these foreigners who thought they had a shot at becoming SC2 legends are now realizing that the koreans really do have a firm grip on all of starcraft, one and two.




I agree with you. Don't forget about the Warcraft 3 players. At first (before the game came out), I assumed that Warcraft 3 players wont be able to perform as well as the Starcraft players. However, I was wrong. With the new engine/AI, quality units have its strong potential/use, just like Warcraft heros. What worried me is that the new engine/AI would make the game easier and allow a lot more people to play at higher levels. But if Artosis is right is something he mentioned during the GSL... if players begin to find more and more safer builds to play, and react in time, sc2 will become a game of endurance and it might be more of macro games (like we see today, less 1 base strategies). Personally, I like these one base strategies from the warcraft players, sometimes there's a lot of creativity going on. Especially Warcraft 3 players using Terran >_> "Repairion" lololol

I personally wish that NaDa does pull through and becomes one of the better known players.
I DO hope that the new easier engine/AI can compensate for the older age of rts and broodwar players.

On the side note: Last week, there was a storm in new york that hit all the powers out. So i got bored and decided to play a little Brood War. I realized what an amazing game Brood War was. Even how a game like that resulted in a growing community like Team Liquid. I remember how much multi tasking there was compared to sc2. It felt like a sin to be playing sc2. (translating this into korean makes more sense, that it felt like a sin" lololol, but yay, im loving how things look right now
being
Profile Joined September 2010
Niger16 Posts
September 25 2010 12:47 GMT
#635
On September 25 2010 18:40 Crt wrote:
so the graph on sc2ranks isn't accurate? it shows he's still 1775 pts. Last 25 matches are updated.

Actually the 'Last 25 matches' is bugged for him. It's repeated of his last two matches - http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/931025/1/NaDa/matches
junkacc
Profile Joined July 2010
99 Posts
September 25 2010 12:48 GMT
#636
On September 25 2010 21:08 Apolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 09:19 Vz0 wrote:
On September 25 2010 09:10 QkDown wrote:
You people and koreans. Yes they are the best by far now, but why. It's like the "dream team" in the olympics way back when. America wasn't superior to the world in basketball because they were americans, but because it was a focus within their society. Kids grew up watching basketball, and played it constantly. In Korean Esports is heads above everyone else. SC has been a big deal in Korea for 10+yrs. Will Koreans always be the best progamers? Now that the rest of the world is focusing much more, in a couple years the top pro's will be more diverse through out the world. America isn't genetically superior in basketball etc, and korea isn't genetically superior in SC.

People that think koreans are born with superior sc ability are simply stupid.

Ignore them.

However, I don't think our western society will ever condone gaming as much as korea will (and they are continuously getting more and more serious on it).

Korea will always be in the lead. That however does not mean that our western players cannot be better, but simply there will be less pros altogether.


And there's something else no one seems to adress but which has some impact. Big SC tournaments are in Korea, so koreans are playing at home.

Everyone that is familiar with Mourinho knows he hasn't lost a single football game in over 150 at home, while outside his win rate is about 60%. Make koreans come to Europe and USA and we will see if they manage to be as cool and nervousless as they are there.


Get viable e-sports infrastructure and fanbase and then we'll talk.
http://filesmelt.com/dl/1284595498849.gif
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
September 25 2010 13:57 GMT
#637
On September 25 2010 21:08 Apolo wrote:
And there's something else no one seems to adress but which has some impact. Big SC tournaments are in Korea, so koreans are playing at home.

Everyone that is familiar with Mourinho knows he hasn't lost a single football game in over 150 at home, while outside his win rate is about 60%. Make koreans come to Europe and USA and we will see if they manage to be as cool and nervousless as they are there.


You mean like WCG tourneys?
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
September 25 2010 13:58 GMT
#638
On September 25 2010 22:57 biskit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 21:08 Apolo wrote:
And there's something else no one seems to adress but which has some impact. Big SC tournaments are in Korea, so koreans are playing at home.

Everyone that is familiar with Mourinho knows he hasn't lost a single football game in over 150 at home, while outside his win rate is about 60%. Make koreans come to Europe and USA and we will see if they manage to be as cool and nervousless as they are there.


You mean like WCG tourneys?


hahaha.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
September 26 2010 19:10 GMT
#639
On September 25 2010 22:57 biskit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 21:08 Apolo wrote:
And there's something else no one seems to adress but which has some impact. Big SC tournaments are in Korea, so koreans are playing at home.

Everyone that is familiar with Mourinho knows he hasn't lost a single football Game in over 150 at home, while outside his Win rate is about 60%. Make koreans come to Europe and USA and we will see if they manage to be as cool and nervousless as they are there.


You mean like WCG tourneys?


you beat me to it .. fuck

well he may have a point .. (T)(ru)Androide

but but .. no that ain't right, this dude was a fluke ..
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
September 26 2010 19:15 GMT
#640
On September 27 2010 04:10 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 22:57 biskit wrote:
On September 25 2010 21:08 Apolo wrote:
And there's something else no one seems to adress but which has some impact. Big SC tournaments are in Korea, so koreans are playing at home.

Everyone that is familiar with Mourinho knows he hasn't lost a single football Game in over 150 at home, while outside his Win rate is about 60%. Make koreans come to Europe and USA and we will see if they manage to be as cool and nervousless as they are there.


You mean like WCG tourneys?


you beat me to it .. fuck

well he may have a point .. (T)(ru)Androide

but but .. no that ain't right, this dude was a fluke ..


That was also during the earlier stages of progaming, unlike today where the overall skill level in korea has jumped enormously. Silent_Control (although skilled) wouldnt have anything on todays S class progamers.

Also, other than WCG....they also played at Blizzcon and destroyed everyone there as well. Apolo, so far your argument is 100% wrong.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
September 26 2010 19:19 GMT
#641
On September 27 2010 04:15 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 04:10 aimaimaim wrote:
On September 25 2010 22:57 biskit wrote:
On September 25 2010 21:08 Apolo wrote:
And there's something else no one seems to adress but which has some impact. Big SC tournaments are in Korea, so koreans are playing at home.

Everyone that is familiar with Mourinho knows he hasn't lost a single football Game in over 150 at home, while outside his Win rate is about 60%. Make koreans come to Europe and USA and we will see if they manage to be as cool and nervousless as they are there.


You mean like WCG tourneys?


you beat me to it .. fuck

well he may have a point .. (T)(ru)Androide

but but .. no that ain't right, this dude was a fluke ..


That was also during the earlier stages of progaming, unlike today where the overall skill level in korea has jumped enormously. Silent_Control (although skilled) wouldnt have anything on todays S class progamers.

Also, other than WCG....they also played at Blizzcon and destroyed everyone there as well. Apolo, so far your argument is 100% wrong.


wtf you talking about .. when this happened it didn't matter if it was the past, present or future and the fact that this happened.

but like i said, it was a fluke. im not arguing about your 2nd statement
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 26 2010 19:25 GMT
#642
On September 27 2010 04:15 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 04:10 aimaimaim wrote:
On September 25 2010 22:57 biskit wrote:
On September 25 2010 21:08 Apolo wrote:
And there's something else no one seems to adress but which has some impact. Big SC tournaments are in Korea, so koreans are playing at home.

Everyone that is familiar with Mourinho knows he hasn't lost a single football Game in over 150 at home, while outside his Win rate is about 60%. Make koreans come to Europe and USA and we will see if they manage to be as cool and nervousless as they are there.


You mean like WCG tourneys?


you beat me to it .. fuck

well he may have a point .. (T)(ru)Androide

but but .. no that ain't right, this dude was a fluke ..


That was also during the earlier stages of progaming, unlike today where the overall skill level in korea has jumped enormously. Silent_Control (although skilled) wouldnt have anything on todays S class progamers.

Also, other than WCG....they also played at Blizzcon and destroyed everyone there as well. Apolo, so far your argument is 100% wrong.


Well if you compare silent_controls skill back in 2005 to the skill of the top progamers of 2010 its obvious that there is gonna be a difference. But back in 2005 silent_control was a very good progamer and Androide is probably the most successfull non-korean of all time (in terms of WCG) not to mention he's still a fucking monster
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