EPT[Interview] GSL Ro32 Lotze vs Idra Winner - Page 8
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Tdelamay
Canada548 Posts
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On September 16 2010 05:26 KissBlade wrote: wtf ... what would that have done? Lotze didn't look at Idra's match history, it was Idra looking at Lotze's which Lotze only found out this morning and it didn't even really matter because he ended up using the same build anyway game 1! Second of all, opponent's preferred builds get revealed VERY OFTEN if you ever followed competitive BW. My point is that Lotze found out about Idra practicing against his build orders so he changed his strat in game 2 while making it look like he was going with his original BO that Idra had practiced against. This wouldn't have happened if Idra would have practiced on a different account because Lotze's teammates wouldn't have been able to search Idra's opponent's match history/build orders. Idra thought he was clever to search his opponent's match history for builds, but he actually got out-smarted by Lotze's team that was able to uncover that Idra had been practicing vs. Lotze's build and warned Lotze. | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
The Protoss player was using a build I was going to use. So I saw that with Hyungjoo Hyung, and so I quickly adjusted my build. Seriously, that battle.net function is so fucking gay :/. Uh, that's possible but there are some of us westerners who aren't xenophobic and have no problem supporting the better players even if they happen to be Korean. What is wrong with you? He was replying to a post that specifically stated a racial preference for the "Starcraft 2 master race" by saying "Not everyone wants that). So its Blizzards fault that IDRA HIMSELF went around and tried to figure Lotze's build, then when it backfired, instead of praising Lotze for outsmarting him you blame Blizzard for allowing something Idra himself tried to use to his advantage? lolwut? Nobody is blaming this guy for metagaming like a pro within the given ruleset. We're saying its stupid that you can metagame like this. | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On September 16 2010 06:07 Damnesiac wrote: Yes in the late game of his last match he should be wondering why his lings didnt get up the ramp rather than the other unimportant stuff going on Yeah, because...you know...denying expos isn't important or anything. | ||
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AJMcSpiffy
United States1154 Posts
 I really can't figure out why he never scouted more during that 3rd game. I mean in the 2nd game it was a bit more forgivable, but in a drawn-out, macro game? He should have been trying to deny those expansions way more than he did. I guess now all my rooting is going for TLO, I hope he can still perform well while he's sick :-/ | ||
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GrapeD
Canada679 Posts
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viraltouch
United States299 Posts
I want an idra interview on these games lol. | ||
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gun.slinger
Canada258 Posts
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z00t
Australia976 Posts
I have to say though - the 2nd game felt a bit unfair to me. I mean, Idra's gamesense is usually so scary-good, and he can usually know exactly what his opponent's doing based on the barest of scouting information. Despite getting an Overlord into Lotze's base, he STILL couldn't tell that Lotze should have had more stuff based on the duration of the game =/. He didn't even build extra Queens just to be safe, due to being suspicious at the lack of stuff Lotze had. If Idra isn't good enough to tell that Protoss is proxying somewhere based on a sacrificial Overlord's info, what chance do lesser-skilled players have? =/ The 3rd game was definitely Idra getting straight-up outplayed, though. I think it would have been a different result if he had spotted that hidden expo, but unfortunately, that was not to be . | ||
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waxypants
United States479 Posts
On September 16 2010 04:44 epik640x wrote: Uh, that's possible but there are some of us westerners who aren't xenophobic and have no problem supporting the better players even if they happen to be Korean. lol xenophobic? It's just that having all Koreans is kind of boring and it also makes the whole thing cut off from foreigners when there are no foreigners playing. | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
- You used a hidden Void Ray strategy the second game. ▲ I originally prepared a different build. I was going to do a fast Colossus followed by an all-in. However, I learned early this morning Idra was preparing against my build order and preparing against another team's Protoss players. The Protoss player was using a build I was going to use. So I saw that with Hyungjoo Hyung, and so I quickly adjusted my build. this is so stupid. -.-;; hopefully retarded stuff like this makes blizz re-think there 'allow everyone to see match history' crap. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
On September 16 2010 01:43 choboPEon wrote: I think you being glad that the Koreans are taking over is the exception to the rule. Most of us would probably like to see a few non-Koreans. Next season! next season, we got july mother fuckers!~~~~ go koreans!!! dominate and show the world that the rest of us are just scrubs =) | ||
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chocopan
Japan986 Posts
On September 16 2010 09:16 waxypants wrote: lol xenophobic? It's just that having all Koreans is kind of boring and it also makes the whole thing cut off from foreigners when there are no foreigners playing. Disagree. People enjoy watching the soccer World Cup even if their team never gets to (and never has got to - poor Japan QQ) the finals or even close to it. You watch for the quality of the games. Of course it's exciting for Westerners if TLO does well, but that's not because he's European, it's because he's an outsider/the underdog aura and because of (deserved) reputation for the quality of the SC/BW game in Korea. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
On September 16 2010 02:10 DarkspearTribe wrote: Teamliquid actually respects Idra as a player if you want haters - starcraftarena.net you obviously havent seen rekrul post... let me find you the link.... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 epic post enjoy! | ||
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Ordained
United States779 Posts
On September 16 2010 07:37 Tdelamay wrote: I'm a bit worried about the zerg representation now. 5 left and dwindling. CHECK FIGHTING!! | ||
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Mylin
Sweden177 Posts
Gotta love TLO though hope he wins the whole thing. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On September 16 2010 09:42 Ordained wrote: Now I am hoping for Maru and Lotze to get knocked out for knocking out my 2 favorite Zergs. 5 left and dwindling. CHECK FIGHTING!! There are only 4 left, another Zerg got terranrolled a few hours later. I really don't think check or cool will do any better than IdrA, but we will see. | ||
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Ordained
United States779 Posts
On September 16 2010 09:47 Fa1nT wrote: There are only 4 left, another Zerg got terranrolled a few hours later. I really don't think check or cool will do any better than IdrA, but we will see. Dang, i miscounted. Thanks for the correction man. This doesnt show much about balance but it cant be good for the sport. I already dont want to watch any more GSL until next season because most of my race got kicked out and I cant bring myself to root for a Terran, sorry TLO. | ||
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SuperGnu
Sweden240 Posts
On September 16 2010 09:34 Garaman wrote: you obviously havent seen rekrul post... let me find you the link.... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 epic post enjoy! "HEY MY OPPONENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THIS BECAUSE THATS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND I KNEW HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT SO I DID EXACTLY WHAT BEATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO DO BUT HE'S DUMB AND DIDN'T DO WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO COUNTER EASILY." haha and thats almost 2 years ago, and it just happend again lololol. EDIT: i think i am in love with Rekrul now  | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
remember his series vs F91 on BW TL event, liquibition or whatever? how he couldn't adapt to his opponents nonstandard play? didn't scout enough? just assumed what the other guy was going all the time? like i said, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 epic post by rek =) | ||
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