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Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
September 15 2010 22:37 GMT
#141
I'm a bit worried about the zerg representation now.
This road isn't leading anywhere...
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 15 2010 22:37 GMT
#142
On September 16 2010 05:26 KissBlade wrote:
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On September 16 2010 05:07 Devolved wrote:
On September 16 2010 04:36 KissBlade wrote:

IMO, Match history scouting isn't a big deal! Idra was smart for actually looking into his opponent's build history to identify a pattern.

If Idra was actually smart then he would have practiced against those builds on a different account.



wtf ... what would that have done? Lotze didn't look at Idra's match history, it was Idra looking at Lotze's which Lotze only found out this morning and it didn't even really matter because he ended up using the same build anyway game 1! Second of all, opponent's preferred builds get revealed VERY OFTEN if you ever followed competitive BW.

My point is that Lotze found out about Idra practicing against his build orders so he changed his strat in game 2 while making it look like he was going with his original BO that Idra had practiced against. This wouldn't have happened if Idra would have practiced on a different account because Lotze's teammates wouldn't have been able to search Idra's opponent's match history/build orders. Idra thought he was clever to search his opponent's match history for builds, but he actually got out-smarted by Lotze's team that was able to uncover that Idra had been practicing vs. Lotze's build and warned Lotze.
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Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 22:43:08
September 15 2010 22:38 GMT
#143
The Protoss player was using a build I was going to use. So I saw that with Hyungjoo Hyung, and so I quickly adjusted my build.


Seriously, that battle.net function is so fucking gay :/.



Uh, that's possible but there are some of us westerners who aren't xenophobic and have no problem supporting the better players even if they happen to be Korean.


What is wrong with you? He was replying to a post that specifically stated a racial preference for the "Starcraft 2 master race" by saying "Not everyone wants that).


So its Blizzards fault that IDRA HIMSELF went around and tried to figure Lotze's build, then when it backfired, instead of praising Lotze for outsmarting him you blame Blizzard for allowing something Idra himself tried to use to his advantage?


lolwut? Nobody is blaming this guy for metagaming like a pro within the given ruleset. We're saying its stupid that you can metagame like this.
Too Busy to Troll!
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 15 2010 22:42 GMT
#144
On September 16 2010 06:07 Damnesiac wrote:
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On September 16 2010 05:42 JinDesu wrote:
On September 16 2010 05:35 Damnesiac wrote:
Just for the record, IdrA actually did try to scout the 7 o'clock but he blocked the ramp with a stalker meaning all units heading into the base would ignore the ramp and walk into a wall. Good job Blizzard defeats IdrA yet again.


....so if you noticed your unit that was sent into an area does not end up in that area, would you not be suspicious as well?

Yes in the late game of his last match he should be wondering why his lings didnt get up the ramp rather than the other unimportant stuff going on

Yeah, because...you know...denying expos isn't important or anything.
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AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
September 15 2010 22:47 GMT
#145
I was so sad to see IdrA go I really can't figure out why he never scouted more during that 3rd game. I mean in the 2nd game it was a bit more forgivable, but in a drawn-out, macro game? He should have been trying to deny those expansions way more than he did. I guess now all my rooting is going for TLO, I hope he can still perform well while he's sick :-/
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
September 15 2010 23:28 GMT
#146
I want an idra interview on these games lol.
Some people hurt people. I defenestrate those people.
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 15 2010 23:29 GMT
#147
yea artosistv, get on it
I want an idra interview on these games lol.
gun.slinger
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada258 Posts
September 15 2010 23:36 GMT
#148
TLO HWAITING
LIQUID HWAITING
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
September 16 2010 00:13 GMT
#149
Haha - I liked that "Torch'd" is the new slang for getting tricked into not expecting Void Rays XD.

I have to say though - the 2nd game felt a bit unfair to me. I mean, Idra's gamesense is usually so scary-good, and he can usually know exactly what his opponent's doing based on the barest of scouting information. Despite getting an Overlord into Lotze's base, he STILL couldn't tell that Lotze should have had more stuff based on the duration of the game =/. He didn't even build extra Queens just to be safe, due to being suspicious at the lack of stuff Lotze had.

If Idra isn't good enough to tell that Protoss is proxying somewhere based on a sacrificial Overlord's info, what chance do lesser-skilled players have? =/

The 3rd game was definitely Idra getting straight-up outplayed, though. I think it would have been a different result if he had spotted that hidden expo, but unfortunately, that was not to be .
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
September 16 2010 00:16 GMT
#150
On September 16 2010 04:44 epik640x wrote:
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On September 16 2010 01:43 choboPEon wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:33 fabiano wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:28 tbrown47 wrote:
Congratulations Lotze, now like 90% of the TL population loves you -.-


Fixed.

Milkis, you are like our direct link to the korean news, we should build a huge statue in your honor.

Also, I'm glad to see the koreans taking over. My only exception is TLO because he is amazing.


I think you being glad that the Koreans are taking over is the exception to the rule. Most of us would probably like to see a few non-Koreans.

Next season!


Uh, that's possible but there are some of us westerners who aren't xenophobic and have no problem supporting the better players even if they happen to be Korean.


lol xenophobic? It's just that having all Koreans is kind of boring and it also makes the whole thing cut off from foreigners when there are no foreigners playing.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
September 16 2010 00:28 GMT
#151
- You used a hidden Void Ray strategy the second game.
▲ I originally prepared a different build. I was going to do a fast Colossus followed by an all-in. However, I learned early this morning Idra was preparing against my build order and preparing against another team's Protoss players. The Protoss player was using a build I was going to use. So I saw that with Hyungjoo Hyung, and so I quickly adjusted my build.


this is so stupid. -.-;;

hopefully retarded stuff like this makes blizz re-think there 'allow everyone to see match history' crap.


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Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
September 16 2010 00:29 GMT
#152
On September 16 2010 01:43 choboPEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 01:33 fabiano wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:28 tbrown47 wrote:
Congratulations Lotze, now like 90% of the TL population loves you -.-


Fixed.

Milkis, you are like our direct link to the korean news, we should build a huge statue in your honor.

Also, I'm glad to see the koreans taking over. My only exception is TLO because he is amazing.


I think you being glad that the Koreans are taking over is the exception to the rule. Most of us would probably like to see a few non-Koreans.

Next season!


next season, we got july mother fuckers!~~~~
go koreans!!! dominate and show the world that the rest of us are just scrubs =)
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
September 16 2010 00:31 GMT
#153
On September 16 2010 09:16 waxypants wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 04:44 epik640x wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:43 choboPEon wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:33 fabiano wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:28 tbrown47 wrote:
Congratulations Lotze, now like 90% of the TL population loves you -.-


Fixed.

Milkis, you are like our direct link to the korean news, we should build a huge statue in your honor.

Also, I'm glad to see the koreans taking over. My only exception is TLO because he is amazing.


I think you being glad that the Koreans are taking over is the exception to the rule. Most of us would probably like to see a few non-Koreans.

Next season!


Uh, that's possible but there are some of us westerners who aren't xenophobic and have no problem supporting the better players even if they happen to be Korean.


lol xenophobic? It's just that having all Koreans is kind of boring and it also makes the whole thing cut off from foreigners when there are no foreigners playing.


Disagree. People enjoy watching the soccer World Cup even if their team never gets to (and never has got to - poor Japan QQ) the finals or even close to it. You watch for the quality of the games. Of course it's exciting for Westerners if TLO does well, but that's not because he's European, it's because he's an outsider/the underdog aura and because of (deserved) reputation for the quality of the SC/BW game in Korea.
Dance those ultras
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
September 16 2010 00:34 GMT
#154
On September 16 2010 02:10 DarkspearTribe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 01:33 fabiano wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:28 tbrown47 wrote:
Congratulations Lotze, now like 90% of the TL population loves you -.-


Fixed.

Milkis, you are like our direct link to the korean news, we should build a huge statue in your honor.

Also, I'm glad to see the koreans taking over. My only exception is TLO because he is amazing.

Teamliquid actually respects Idra as a player

if you want haters - starcraftarena.net


you obviously havent seen rekrul post... let me find you the link....

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342

epic post
enjoy!
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 00:43:18
September 16 2010 00:42 GMT
#155
Now I am hoping for Maru and Lotze to get knocked out for knocking out my 2 favorite Zergs.

On September 16 2010 07:37 Tdelamay wrote:
I'm a bit worried about the zerg representation now.

5 left and dwindling. CHECK FIGHTING!!
"You are not trying to win, you are trying to be awesome" -Day[9]
Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
September 16 2010 00:43 GMT
#156
It might sound harsh and all but Idra is just way to bm and childish in general to get any sympathy from my side, in fact I have to admit I'm quite happy he was eliminated.

Gotta love TLO though hope he wins the whole thing.
no
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 16 2010 00:47 GMT
#157
On September 16 2010 09:42 Ordained wrote:
Now I am hoping for Maru and Lotze to get knocked out for knocking out my 2 favorite Zergs.

Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 07:37 Tdelamay wrote:
I'm a bit worried about the zerg representation now.

5 left and dwindling. CHECK FIGHTING!!


There are only 4 left, another Zerg got terranrolled a few hours later.

I really don't think check or cool will do any better than IdrA, but we will see.
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
September 16 2010 00:49 GMT
#158
On September 16 2010 09:47 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 09:42 Ordained wrote:
Now I am hoping for Maru and Lotze to get knocked out for knocking out my 2 favorite Zergs.

On September 16 2010 07:37 Tdelamay wrote:
I'm a bit worried about the zerg representation now.

5 left and dwindling. CHECK FIGHTING!!


There are only 4 left, another Zerg got terranrolled a few hours later.

I really don't think check or cool will do any better than IdrA, but we will see.


Dang, i miscounted. Thanks for the correction man. This doesnt show much about balance but it cant be good for the sport. I already dont want to watch any more GSL until next season because most of my race got kicked out and I cant bring myself to root for a Terran, sorry TLO.
"You are not trying to win, you are trying to be awesome" -Day[9]
SuperGnu
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden240 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 00:52:41
September 16 2010 00:50 GMT
#159
On September 16 2010 09:34 Garaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 02:10 DarkspearTribe wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:33 fabiano wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:28 tbrown47 wrote:
Congratulations Lotze, now like 90% of the TL population loves you -.-


Fixed.

Milkis, you are like our direct link to the korean news, we should build a huge statue in your honor.

Also, I'm glad to see the koreans taking over. My only exception is TLO because he is amazing.

Teamliquid actually respects Idra as a player

if you want haters - starcraftarena.net


you obviously havent seen rekrul post... let me find you the link....

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342

epic post
enjoy!


"HEY MY OPPONENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THIS BECAUSE THATS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND I KNEW HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT SO I DID EXACTLY WHAT BEATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO DO BUT HE'S DUMB AND DIDN'T DO WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO COUNTER EASILY."

haha and thats almost 2 years ago, and it just happend again lololol.


EDIT: i think i am in love with Rekrul now
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Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
September 16 2010 00:51 GMT
#160
anybody else realize a resemblance in Idras play?
remember his series vs F91 on BW TL event, liquibition or whatever?
how he couldn't adapt to his opponents nonstandard play?
didn't scout enough?
just assumed what the other guy was going all the time?

like i said, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 epic post by rek =)
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