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Hyrule19215 Posts
On September 14 2010 10:15 Ketara wrote:
If anything, the fact that people will pay him to cast is evidence that he is a good caster. I doubt anybody would pay me to cast something.
He gets paid because Youtube gives him money because he's a partner, and he got a lot of viewers because he was first. So there's lots of viewers and people new to the scene think "oh he's got lots of viewers, that must mean he's the best" so they watch and he gets more ad revenue and more views, so MLG goes "hey he's got lots of viewers, that must mean he's the best". It's a vicious cycle of dumb.
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There's too much dumb in this whole situation. This whole argument, everything.
gg
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Yeah, not funny at all. Pandabearguy was kind of funny because it was new. This is not — and Husky is not funny, whereas Tasteless is genuinely funny.
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With the release of SC2 hardcore broodwar players are suddenly facing casual gamers on TL. That thread and the bad caster rage is just a symthom of it.
Think about 
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On September 14 2010 10:18 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 10:15 Ketara wrote:
If anything, the fact that people will pay him to cast is evidence that he is a good caster. I doubt anybody would pay me to cast something. He gets paid because Youtube gives him money because he's a partner, and he got a lot of viewers because he was first. So there's lots of viewers and people new to the scene think "oh he's got lots of viewers, that must mean he's the best" so they watch and he gets more ad revenue and more views, so MLG goes "hey he's got lots of viewers, that must mean he's the best". It's a vicious cycle of dumb. [edit] There's too much dumb in this whole situation. This whole argument, everything. gg
If that's true then why did MLG hire Day 9? You think they didn't do their homework and pick a team of casters that would augment each others strengths and weaknesses? I guess they too are dumb.
Youtube is set up in a format that makes it so people with a lot of subscribers and hits will get more subscribers and hits. This is true.
But having good stuff on your channel is important too. I watch the Day 9 Daily every morning. I do this because I work from home, and I can watch it while I work. It is entertaining.
But I haven't subscribed to Day 9's youtube channel, and probably the only reason I haven't is because he doesn't post his videos in HD, and I feel like if he won't take the time to do whatever's necessary to do that (I honestly don't know, maybe he needs a better computer), then I don't need to take the time to log into my youtube account and subscribe to him. Not a fair trade, but I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way.
By your logic, that makes Day 9 lazy, and therefor a bad caster.
Pretty dumb.
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On September 14 2010 06:04 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
You ever wonder why people hate? Notice they don't hate on 99.99% of the casters out there.... Maybe there is a correlation..
It's cool to hate things that are popular.
There are tons of horrible casters out there but unless they're popular people don't bother saying anything at all, they'll just not watch or turn off the sound.
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I love the original song
<3 pylons
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"It's gettin' too hot!" Made me rofl.
Husky is a good caster...excitable and funny.
Hater's gonna hate.
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On September 14 2010 10:18 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 10:15 Ketara wrote:
If anything, the fact that people will pay him to cast is evidence that he is a good caster. I doubt anybody would pay me to cast something. He gets paid because Youtube gives him money because he's a partner, and he got a lot of viewers because he was first. So there's lots of viewers and people new to the scene think "oh he's got lots of viewers, that must mean he's the best" so they watch and he gets more ad revenue and more views, so MLG goes "hey he's got lots of viewers, that must mean he's the best". It's a vicious cycle of dumb. [edit] There's too much dumb in this whole situation. This whole argument, everything. gg
Lies, that is not the cycle at all.
1. Before you had beta, watch HD and Husky to get SC2 videos
2. Get beta key by preordering because you wanted to play because it looks good
3. Learn about TL from HD and Husky talking about how awesome it is
4. Learn about Day9 because he played in their tournament and got lots of praise for being the go to guy for SC encyclopedic knowledge and know how
5. Watch Day9 Daily
6. Phase out HD and Husky in most situations because you watch the daily to learn how to be better and play the rest of the time
7. Buy GSL subscription because you want to see high level Korean games
8. Defend HD and Husky because even though you didn't see Pylo die first hand, you still know it was them that got you where you are.
Which is where? On TL, in diamond league, and watching SC2 for spectator value instead of playing the game in low level leagues because studying others playing the game is stupid, it's only a video game.
RIP Pylo you were and are still an inspiration.
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On September 14 2010 10:15 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 09:19 Ketara wrote:On September 14 2010 08:57 tofucake wrote:On September 14 2010 08:28 Ketara wrote:
That and people saying he was lazy He said he was lazy on the MLG stream, and that was the origin of both "Pylo" and "Destiny Cloud Fist". Saying "I'm lazy and I don't care enough to post a proper VOD" makes him On September 14 2010 08:28 Ketara wrote:
a bad caster By the way, how many times do I have to point out that Husky himself said it on MLG stream live? Husky, back me up here. I think Husky is allowed to say that he's lazy. I run a play by email game from my personal site, and I update it every day. It's easily 20+ hours a weeks worth of work. That's a lot of work for something I don't get paid for, but I enjoy it. There are some things that I know I could do for my site that I don't. It's not because I don't want it to be a good site, I just don't want to put more time into it. In that light, I can call myself lazy. And I have called myself lazy in front of my members before. But if they called me lazy, I would tear their heads off. And they don't call me lazy, because they respect what I do for them for free, even if it's at times not perfect. I can agree that saying something like that in the MLG stream is slightly unprofessional. I think it's unprofessional that Artosis and Tasteless in the GSL streams are consistently discussing who they think will win or lose like it's obvious and not trying to create a tense and exciting game even if it might not exist. HD and Husky don't do this, they try to keep the excitement level high even if the game is one-sided. But I wouldn't call any of the three of them bad casters, even though they occasionally do things that I don't like, or that I wouldn't do. The proof that they're good casters is in the pudding. They're being hired to cast things. They get sponsors. They have large followings. What makes somebody a good caster is if they make the game more entertaining to watch, and get people who would otherwise not watch it to watch it. Husky does that very well. I wouldn't call you lazy, or a bad tech support guy, because I think you're acting like a douchebag. From running my own site, and just from common sense, I know how much work that is. It's a lot of work. But I do think you're acting like a douchebag, and it is giving me a bad impression of the sites and people you represent because of it. I'm also less inclined to watch TotalBiscuits videos after this thread too, because even though he's taking the same side of this ridiculous argument as me, he was also being kind of a douchebag. Point is, I think the amount of venom you've put into this thread is unwarranted and ridiculous, and I wish you would stop. Just because Husky called himself lazy doesn't mean you have carte blanche to flame and completely derail an otherwise humorous thread. I haven't done a great job of keeping things on topic either, and for that I apologize. To Pylo  And if you only put up the first 2 games from a Bo5 and didn't put up the 3rd (say it was 3-0) and said it was because you were lazy, would you expect your users to say "oh yeah hey lets make a bunch of songs in tribute to how awesome you are!"? There's no way in hell that would happen. And stop getting trolled. I'm fine with Husky. He's a pretty cool guy. I just don't think he's that great of a caster. I'm also pretty annoyed at all the dumb people making excuses for him that are outright wrong.
How the hell is an opinion wrong?
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On September 14 2010 10:18 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 10:15 Ketara wrote:
If anything, the fact that people will pay him to cast is evidence that he is a good caster. I doubt anybody would pay me to cast something. He gets paid because Youtube gives him money because he's a partner, and he got a lot of viewers because he was first. So there's lots of viewers and people new to the scene think "oh he's got lots of viewers, that must mean he's the best" so they watch and he gets more ad revenue and more views, so MLG goes "hey he's got lots of viewers, that must mean he's the best". It's a vicious cycle of dumb. [edit] There's too much dumb in this whole situation. This whole argument, everything. gg
Same can be said about tasteless, IMO he is crap but he still get paid and to many is to locked on the fact that he was the only english caster being payed back in BW.
Do you have the same opinion about the guy with the pandabearguy or is that "ok" becuse he is oldschool?
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But I haven't subscribed to Day 9's youtube channel, and probably the only reason I haven't is because he doesn't post his videos in HD
day9tv.blip.tv
It suits his stuff so much better than youtube, since he'd have to cut every single daily up into chunks.
The original pylon thing was meh, but some of the macros in this thread have been funny, so that's cool.
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On September 14 2010 10:55 Williowa wrote:
1. Before you had beta, watch HD and Husky to get SC2 videos
2. Get beta key by preordering because you wanted to play because it looks good
3. Learn about TL from HD and Husky talking about how awesome it is
4. Learn about Day9 because he played in their tournament and got lots of praise for being the go to guy for SC encyclopedic knowledge and know how
5. Watch Day9 Daily
6. Phase out HD and Husky in most situations because you watch the daily to learn how to be better and play the rest of the time
7. Buy GSL subscription because you want to see high level Korean games
8. Defend HD and Husky because even though you didn't see Pylo die first hand, you still know it was them that got you where you are.
Wow that just like, perfectly 100% described my life of SC2.
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Yeah, I watch day 9 on his bliptv channel.
I doubt they pay him though. Hope they do.
And even if they did, I'd much rather he did it on youtube, because youtube is just a much better interface. The chunks aren't so bad, and you can set up playlists so that a p.1 automatically loads to a p.2, which I wish HD and Husky would do.
But apparently they're lazy and therefor bad casters, and the entirety of their fanbase is dumb.
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the panda bear guy thing is so much more sad...
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Wow, some of you guys need really need to get out of your high horse.
I sent a video of husky's to a non gamer friend of mine one month ago.
I played him 1v1 for a couple hours today, and hes gotten pretty damn good.
Husky and HD bring a lot of people into the SC community. That is only a positive thing, yet you all spit such negative hatred towards them for no reason other then jealousy?
Get over yourself
PYLO, IL REP OUR HOOD FOR LIFE!!!
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On September 14 2010 10:55 Williowa wrote:
1. Before you had beta, watch HD and Husky to get SC2 videos
2. Get beta key by preordering because you wanted to play because it looks good
3. Learn about TL from HD and Husky talking about how awesome it is
4. Learn about Day9 because he played in their tournament and got lots of praise for being the go to guy for SC encyclopedic knowledge and know how
5. Watch Day9 Daily
6. Phase out HD and Husky in most situations because you watch the daily to learn how to be better and play the rest of the time
7. Buy GSL subscription because you want to see high level Korean games
8. Defend HD and Husky because even though you didn't see Pylo die first hand, you still know it was them that got you where you are.
Which is where? On TL, in diamond league, and watching SC2 for spectator value instead of playing the game in low level leagues because studying others playing the game is stupid, it's only a video game.
RIP Pylo you were and are still an inspiration.
Almost correct for me,I try and catch the Day[9]'s every morning if i have time.. or later on. But I still check Husky and HD for something fun to watch While I'm eating etc, they showcase good players and the casts themselves are entertaining. No matter how good I get at SC (I suck..) I'm never going pro.. so I enjoy SC on different levels. to be competitive with my friends, and as entertainment. And Drewbie v Socke.. a Husky and HD cast at MLG was one of the most entertaining games I've watched. Maybe because they get caught up in things and miss minute details.. it may piss off elitists, but I think everyone jumped simultaneously when that mothership popped out. Good Drama and entertainment is sometimes better than always being perfect imo.
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On September 14 2010 11:34 Tha_Docta wrote:
Wow, some of you guys need really need to get out of your high horse.
I sent a video of husky's to a non gamer friend of mine one month ago.
I played him 1v1 for a couple hours today, and hes gotten pretty damn good.
Husky and HD bring a lot of people into the SC community. That is only a positive thing, yet you all spit such negative hatred towards them for no reason other then jealousy?
Get over yourself
PYLO, IL REP OUR HOOD FOR LIFE!!!
Sorry? I'm not jealous that hes a terrible commentator.
He is a shout caster, that tells the viewer what they are watching, and he isn't bad at just that. When he finds moments where action is boring, he entertains the audience with random shenanigans like pylo which I found uneventful. I'm annoyed how its taken off to be a meme. Considering the pylon was a standard pylon and it had nothing special going for it. Seemed like he was trying to be like tasteless and his panda bear. (though i found this more funny since it was a repetitive thing and it had history, you would lose the match if you killed the panda bear).
Commentating a game, involves analysis on whats going on in the game. Husky specifically (his analysis of a game) is just terrible. Which is why I would rather watch someone who can let me know whats going on, as well as entertain me (hello day9/tasteless and others) Husky is also a air time hog.
In the end, HDHusky does a fine job with bringing in new starcraft2 fans with their shout casting, but even for a casual viewer and tournaments, better to be going with someone that can actually commentate a game.
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Guys, Husky is doing more for the esports community than you or I will ever do. Stop hating on him just because he doesnt have your preferred casting style. If you want to see esports become big in the west, then support this man!
RIP Pylo
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