EPTAlso if you really like Husky and HD, you should post this on their forums/site, they started it for a reason.
Pylo the Pylon - A sad tale inspired by Husky - Page 8
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Terrakin
United States1440 Posts
Also if you really like Husky and HD, you should post this on their forums/site, they started it for a reason. | ||
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Heosat
Australia481 Posts
On September 14 2010 08:44 godzillathrilla wrote: Hey husky, I know you're reading and posting in this thread, STOP SPLITTING YOUR VIDEOS UP FOR MORE MONEY. Have some respect for your audience and use your partnership so that we can actually watch a full game uninterrupted. Same goes to HD. You dislike him producing entertainment for you whilst trying to earn a living? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
I do not watch Husky's videos anymore, I find them uninformative and boring. I don't find this whole Pylo thing funny at all. But I don't think Husky deserves any hate at all. This is my opinion. There was a time though when I had absolutely no interest in bw/wc3/sc2 and I stumbled across some HD/Husky casts on youtube and they had me hooked. What can I say, the videos were fucking awesome when I didn't play SC2 at all. Now how can you say publicity is a bad thing? Yeah I don't like them anymore but I can easily understand why so many people like them, especially when the target audience is the casual gamer. SC2 casts constantly make the front page of youtube (most viewed Sports and Entertainment etc.) thanks to Husky and HD, sure they get paid for it but it's a two way relationship, it's not easy to maintain a huge number of subs/views without getting stale. @ The people defending him, you're not really helping when you refer to TL as butthurt and that TL owes him something. On topic: I don't like Pylo and I'm glad it died. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19027 Posts
On September 14 2010 08:28 Ketara wrote: He said he was lazy on the MLG stream, and that was the origin of both "Pylo" and "Destiny Cloud Fist". Saying "I'm lazy and I don't care enough to post a proper VOD" makes himThat and people saying he was lazy On September 14 2010 08:28 Ketara wrote: a bad caster By the way, how many times do I have to point out that Husky himself said it on MLG stream live? Husky, back me up here. | ||
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Phos
Iceland106 Posts
On September 14 2010 08:44 godzillathrilla wrote: Hey husky, I know you're reading and posting in this thread, STOP SPLITTING YOUR VIDEOS UP FOR MORE MONEY. Have some respect for your audience and use your partnership so that we can actually watch a full game uninterrupted. Same goes to HD. yeah, how dare he tries to make a buck with those 3 extra clicks per cast?? ITS OUTRAGEOUS! | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
edit: Husky's reaction to Pylo's death in slow motion was probly my favorite part of the video =P | ||
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Suspesne
United States101 Posts
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Spiffeh
United States830 Posts
Some units just need to mind their own business. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On September 14 2010 08:57 tofucake wrote: He said he was lazy on the MLG stream, and that was the origin of both "Pylo" and "Destiny Cloud Fist". Saying "I'm lazy and I don't care enough to post a proper VOD" makes him By the way, how many times do I have to point out that Husky himself said it on MLG stream live? Husky, back me up here. I think Husky is allowed to say that he's lazy. I run a play by email game from my personal site, and I update it every day. It's easily 20+ hours a weeks worth of work. That's a lot of work for something I don't get paid for, but I enjoy it. There are some things that I know I could do for my site that I don't. It's not because I don't want it to be a good site, I just don't want to put more time into it. In that light, I can call myself lazy. And I have called myself lazy in front of my members before. But if they called me lazy, I would tear their heads off. And they don't call me lazy, because they respect what I do for them for free, even if it's at times not perfect. I can agree that saying something like that in the MLG stream is slightly unprofessional. I think it's unprofessional that Artosis and Tasteless in the GSL streams are consistently discussing who they think will win or lose like it's obvious and not trying to create a tense and exciting game even if it might not exist. HD and Husky don't do this, they try to keep the excitement level high even if the game is one-sided. But I wouldn't call any of the three of them bad casters, even though they occasionally do things that I don't like, or that I wouldn't do. The proof that they're good casters is in the pudding. They're being hired to cast things. They get sponsors. They have large followings. What makes somebody a good caster is if they make the game more entertaining to watch, and get people who would otherwise not watch it to watch it. Husky does that very well. I wouldn't call you lazy, or a bad tech support guy, because I think you're acting like a douchebag. From running my own site, and just from common sense, I know how much work that is. It's a lot of work. But I do think you're acting like a douchebag, and it is giving me a bad impression of the sites and people you represent because of it. I'm also less inclined to watch TotalBiscuits videos after this thread too, because even though he's taking the same side of this ridiculous argument as me, he was also being kind of a douchebag. Point is, I think the amount of venom you've put into this thread is unwarranted and ridiculous, and I wish you would stop. Just because Husky called himself lazy doesn't mean you have carte blanche to flame and completely derail an otherwise humorous thread. I haven't done a great job of keeping things on topic either, and for that I apologize. To Pylo  | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On September 14 2010 08:57 tofucake wrote: He said he was lazy on the MLG stream, and that was the origin of both "Pylo" and "Destiny Cloud Fist". Saying "I'm lazy and I don't care enough to post a proper VOD" makes him By the way, how many times do I have to point out that Husky himself said it on MLG stream live? Husky, back me up here. You can't be serious. | ||
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popnyah
Chile32 Posts
On September 14 2010 06:10 TotalBiscuit wrote: There is little reason to pretend to respect a group that doesn't respect you and your colleagues in return. We aren't talking about 'I don't like Husky' opinions here, we're talking about actual flames, abuse and even personal insults being levelled at him and others. It's bullshit and I ain't putting up with it. I'm certainly not going to play Mr Niceguy for a bunch of jerks who haven't lifted a finger to help the scene in any way (not referring to you, regardless of your insults). That guy existed in the beta because people were genuinely enthusiastic about many kinds of casting, understood that there were different levels of understanding in both the audience and the casting scene as well as various different styles, all of which were equally valid. Once the game came out, that attitude seemed to fade away in favour of 'this is the way it must be' and that will, absolutely, hurt the community in the long run, because that's not how the majority of the spectators think and the majority of the spectators are what bring in the advertising dollars which get the players paid and grow the competitive scene. Very well said TotalBiscuit. The only reason I'm even into StarCraft 2 is because of HDStarcraft's YouTube commentaries, in fact I even won a beta key from HD and I'm very grateful for his contributions not only to my gaming, but the SC2 scene in general. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I do now prefer Day[9] and Tastosis for my more high-level game commentaries, but when it comes to pure entertainment and excitement, I enjoy HD's/Husky's and your style of casting immensely. You are all helping SC2 and eSports grow, so I think you deserve a little respect for it. Even if people don't like their casting, that's no reason to be insulting towards them. ..and the song was awesome!  | ||
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Gingerninja
United Kingdom1339 Posts
Hell even Pro-Wrestling is the same.. one does the play by play, the other fills in the blanks with the colour comms. | ||
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
On September 14 2010 08:57 tofucake wrote: He said he was lazy on the MLG stream, and that was the origin of both "Pylo" and "Destiny Cloud Fist". Saying "I'm lazy and I don't care enough to post a proper VOD" makes him By the way, how many times do I have to point out that Husky himself said it on MLG stream live? Husky, back me up here. I watched the MLG and I think he also added he didn't like the sound of it (one-one-one build). Plus, I'm pretty sure Husky had some pronunciation problems (which was it again, zergling? I can't remember...), which could factor in the fact he changed the name of the build. In my opinion, the qualities I look up to in a caster is the attention he will give to details in-game. I could careless about the fact that he cannot pronounce a word properly. | ||
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dump
Japan514 Posts
On September 14 2010 09:39 Gingerninja wrote: I don't get all the hate, was I the only one that enjoyed When Day[9} and Husky were teamed during MLG? You've got Day giving you all the technical info and the clever observational stuff, and you have Husky being a hugely enthusiastic colour commentator. They provide different sides to the same role, there's a reason most sports have 2-3 commentators usually a personality and an ex-pro or so. One provides the entertainment the other provides the technical side. Hell even Pro-Wrestling is the same.. one does the play by play, the other fills in the blanks with the colour comms. this. thank you. you're flattering yourself if you think everyone in the world should be educating themselves in sc2. sc2 is a spectator sport. the casual audience is just as important to the game as the pros that keep it entertaining. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On September 14 2010 08:56 youngminii wrote: Wait why is everyone angry that Husky has a large following even though he's not 'good'? He has enough knowledge to cast the game for the casual gamer right? It's not like you need to be Diamond 1.7k to cast in an entertaining way. I hope you guys realise how much attention Husky is bringing to SC2. I do not watch Husky's videos anymore, I find them uninformative and boring. I don't find this whole Pylo thing funny at all. But I don't think Husky deserves any hate at all. This is my opinion The reason I don't watch HD and Husky is because I think their product is good. The reason I dislike them is the Idra bashing. Maybe they have stopped doing it already, I don't know, but it was going for a long enough time. However, I am pretty sure that so many people have bad things to say about HD and Husky is their followers: there is nothing more annoying than a newbie and a fanboy at the same time. Being a newbie is absolutely fine, being a fanboy is not necessarily annoying, but being both at the same time is often hard to handle. P.S. The Pylo joke is a bit funny, but it is too similar to Tasteless' pandabearguy to make a big thing out of it. | ||
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RoarMan
Canada745 Posts
I'm not dissing Tastless though, the Panda Bear Daddy. | ||
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Terrakin
United States1440 Posts
On September 14 2010 09:19 Ketara wrote: I think Husky is allowed to say that he's lazy. I run a play by email game from my personal site, and I update it every day. It's easily 20+ hours a weeks worth of work. That's a lot of work for something I don't get paid for, but I enjoy it. There are some things that I know I could do for my site that I don't. It's not because I don't want it to be a good site, I just don't want to put more time into it. In that light, I can call myself lazy. And I have called myself lazy in front of my members before. But if they called me lazy, I would tear their heads off. And they don't call me lazy, because they respect what I do for them for free, even if it's at times not perfect. I can agree that saying something like that in the MLG stream is slightly unprofessional. I think it's unprofessional that Artosis and Tasteless in the GSL streams are consistently discussing who they think will win or lose like it's obvious and not trying to create a tense and exciting game even if it might not exist. HD and Husky don't do this, they try to keep the excitement level high even if the game is one-sided. But I wouldn't call any of the three of them bad casters, even though they occasionally do things that I don't like, or that I wouldn't do. The proof that they're good casters is in the pudding. They're being hired to cast things. They get sponsors. They have large followings. What makes somebody a good caster is if they make the game more entertaining to watch, and get people who would otherwise not watch it to watch it. Husky does that very well. I wouldn't call you lazy, or a bad tech support guy, because I think you're acting like a douchebag. From running my own site, and just from common sense, I know how much work that is. It's a lot of work. But I do think you're acting like a douchebag, and it is giving me a bad impression of the sites and people you represent because of it. I'm also less inclined to watch TotalBiscuits videos after this thread too, because even though he's taking the same side of this ridiculous argument as me, he was also being kind of a douchebag. Point is, I think the amount of venom you've put into this thread is unwarranted and ridiculous, and I wish you would stop. Just because Husky called himself lazy doesn't mean you have carte blanche to flame and completely derail an otherwise humorous thread. I haven't done a great job of keeping things on topic either, and for that I apologize. To Pylo You're forgetting that Husky doesn't work for free anymore | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On September 14 2010 04:40 Ketara wrote: Yes it is. Anybody who thinks this isn't absolutely hilarious is a tool. ![[image loading]](http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/067/436/small/pylo.jpg?1282706966) Hilarious | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
If anything, the fact that people will pay him to cast is evidence that he is a good caster. I doubt anybody would pay me to cast something. I am going to go out on a limb and guess that Husky's childlike enthusiasm when casting games is not fake, and pre-designed as a way to get paid. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe he is only after that lucrative E-Sports casting market. It's possible. But his own interests in doing it are unrelated to whether or not he is good at it. I played the violin when I was like 8 years old. I was really god damn good at it, and professionals were saying I was some sort of child violin prodigy. I hated that shit and my parents made me do it and I don't do it anymore. But I could have probably stuck with it and done it for money even though I hated it, and that wouldn't have made me bad at playing the violin. I wouldn't say Husky is perfect. I wouldn't say Starcraft 2 is perfect. I wouldn't say this Pylo joke is the wittiest thing I have ever seen in my life. But giving constructive criticism or saying something isn't perfect is entirely different than saying something is bad. And even if you do think he is bad, why flame him? Do you think that will make him do what you want? Even if he's only after it for the money, he's bringing new bodies to Starcraft 2. He's increasing the ratings of all of these streams and tournaments. IMO, if he's only in it for the money, and it's having that good an effect on the community and on E-Sports, then more power to him. We should pay him more, then maybe he will work harder. He deserves it. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19027 Posts
On September 14 2010 09:19 Ketara wrote: I think Husky is allowed to say that he's lazy. I run a play by email game from my personal site, and I update it every day. It's easily 20+ hours a weeks worth of work. That's a lot of work for something I don't get paid for, but I enjoy it. There are some things that I know I could do for my site that I don't. It's not because I don't want it to be a good site, I just don't want to put more time into it. In that light, I can call myself lazy. And I have called myself lazy in front of my members before. But if they called me lazy, I would tear their heads off. And they don't call me lazy, because they respect what I do for them for free, even if it's at times not perfect. I can agree that saying something like that in the MLG stream is slightly unprofessional. I think it's unprofessional that Artosis and Tasteless in the GSL streams are consistently discussing who they think will win or lose like it's obvious and not trying to create a tense and exciting game even if it might not exist. HD and Husky don't do this, they try to keep the excitement level high even if the game is one-sided. But I wouldn't call any of the three of them bad casters, even though they occasionally do things that I don't like, or that I wouldn't do. The proof that they're good casters is in the pudding. They're being hired to cast things. They get sponsors. They have large followings. What makes somebody a good caster is if they make the game more entertaining to watch, and get people who would otherwise not watch it to watch it. Husky does that very well. I wouldn't call you lazy, or a bad tech support guy, because I think you're acting like a douchebag. From running my own site, and just from common sense, I know how much work that is. It's a lot of work. But I do think you're acting like a douchebag, and it is giving me a bad impression of the sites and people you represent because of it. I'm also less inclined to watch TotalBiscuits videos after this thread too, because even though he's taking the same side of this ridiculous argument as me, he was also being kind of a douchebag. Point is, I think the amount of venom you've put into this thread is unwarranted and ridiculous, and I wish you would stop. Just because Husky called himself lazy doesn't mean you have carte blanche to flame and completely derail an otherwise humorous thread. I haven't done a great job of keeping things on topic either, and for that I apologize. To Pylo And if you only put up the first 2 games from a Bo5 and didn't put up the 3rd (say it was 3-0) and said it was because you were lazy, would you expect your users to say "oh yeah hey lets make a bunch of songs in tribute to how awesome you are!"? There's no way in hell that would happen. And stop getting trolled. I'm fine with Husky. He's a pretty cool guy. I just don't think he's that great of a caster. I'm also pretty annoyed at all the dumb people making excuses for him that are outright wrong. | ||
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