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stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
September 03 2010 15:22 GMT
#181
On September 03 2010 23:30 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 23:27 stafu wrote:
On September 03 2010 23:02 gaggar wrote:
On September 03 2010 23:01 beavord wrote:
Don't know if anyone linked the sample page, but here it: http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/premiumzone/VideoSpecs.php


are they mother humpin kidding me here?

300k bitrate looks like a pixelated vomit. Jesus Christ.

Are you kidding me? The 300k looks far better than most proleague/OSL streams I watch.


Except it doesn't and it really isn't. Try full screening it.

I did?
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
September 03 2010 15:24 GMT
#182
Thank you, GOM.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 03 2010 15:26 GMT
#183
On September 03 2010 22:25 Phisk wrote:
You don't barge into stores screaming about how pricey and bad tasting a specific cereal is
Don't underestimate us.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
September 03 2010 15:26 GMT
#184
Free low quality stream and no VODs is not exactly a crushing victory, but still, very much acceptable for the plebs =P
Too tired to come up with something witty.
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
September 03 2010 15:27 GMT
#185
I will purchase it for the English commentary vods. I'm hoping to catch the streams via my OGN account, anybody know if that will be possible?
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 03 2010 15:27 GMT
#186
20 bucks is way more reasonable. If things workout between gretech and kespa for proleague to continue then I'll happily pay my support for a good stream.
Remember Violet.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
September 03 2010 15:29 GMT
#187
power to the smart masses!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 03 2010 15:31 GMT
#188
On September 04 2010 00:08 Carthage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 00:00 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I expect decent quality for a free stream


Wait...what? You're getting it for free. You're not giving them anything.

Why would you have any expectation of *anything*?

They could literally start each video with a 5 minute clip of a middle finger aimed right at the viewer, and you'd have no leg to stand on to bitch about it, because you are not a paying customer.


Yes, but if they want viewers for advertising money they still need to provide a product that people want to watch. If the stream is terrible, people may just skip on it, even if it's free.

Why are you saying that anyway? I definitely won't skip on it
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
September 03 2010 15:34 GMT
#189
How exactly do I buy the new package for $20?

The old prices still appear on the site.
#1 Terran hater
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7819 Posts
September 03 2010 15:35 GMT
#190
Thank god. I'm not a big SC2 fan, but this was the right thing to do. Especially since GOM and Blizz insist on trying to kill BW
iLLusive
Profile Joined March 2010
United States274 Posts
September 03 2010 15:35 GMT
#191
Can anyone clarify there is really only (2) games being played on Sept 4th and (5) games played on Sept 6th? Just want to make sure I'm looking at the correct schedule, because I understand it's in format of a season. Just kind of hope for more then just couple games per session, but still nice to have games on a free stream now regardless.

Also really anyone reading through the thread, there really is no need to point out people complaining about "Free stream". People will complain about anything and everything if they feel it's valid. To each their own, but I would much rather be capable of watching these matches then FORCED to pay for them. Everyone seems to forget that point and dwells on fact they can't full screen 1080p in DVD quality for free stream. So with personally having high expectations for quality of streams I glanced over at the viewing of the standard / HQ previews on GOMtv. They both looks just fine for a free stream, as well as being better then some previous tournaments free streams quality wise.
The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
September 03 2010 15:35 GMT
#192
On September 03 2010 23:00 Seth_ wrote:
you can watch the stream quality on http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/premiumzone/VideoSpecs.php

The 300kb/s stream is okay (no horrible coding artifacts, although you can't read the supply count)
The 500kb/s is a bit better (that's the HQ stream & regular VOD)

They should have a 1000kb/s or 1500kb/s stream though for the paying people.

I've seen livestream and Ustream streams that are much better than the 'high quality' one. This is just disappointing for such a large tournament. They could just host it on livestream and it would look better.
Hark!
Lucid777
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom19 Posts
September 03 2010 15:42 GMT
#193
thank you thank you gom <3
pat965
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 15:42:53
September 03 2010 15:42 GMT
#194
Aforementioned door in the face theory seems plausible, especially since the average viewer would not be awake at 6AM to watch Starcraft 2, making the $20 full-package sound like more and more like a favour to the viewer
hi
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
September 03 2010 15:42 GMT
#195
I think as many people as possible should buy the $20 package in support of this decision
KentHenry
Profile Joined August 2010
United States260 Posts
September 03 2010 15:42 GMT
#196
So when does the first match start? I read that it started on September 4th at 7:00 P.M KST but I'm not familiar with Korean time zone, would this be around 5 A.M EST?

First matches to be played:
Greg Fileds a.k.a IdrA (Z) vs Tae Hoon Ji a.k.a 허준과침제니스 (T)
Han Eul Kwak a.k.a MakaPrime (T) vs Hyo Seop Eom a.k.a BEV (P)
teumas
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden280 Posts
September 03 2010 15:44 GMT
#197
I'm just glad it's free, and the 300k is watchable
Mellotron
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States329 Posts
September 03 2010 15:46 GMT
#198
I actually think that what Gom wanted to charge before was "worth it" if you are into SC2. The only problem is that most people just dont have that extra money laying around. Especially when the internet allows for so much restreaming etc which makes everything free. What Gom is providing is epic as far as content is concerned, and epic content is worth paying for. They just forgot to consider the fact that most people just dont have 50 bucks a month to blow no matter how excited they are about the games.

I appreciate Gom reconsidering and pricing things correctly and fairly. Splitting VODs from stream was an odd mistake to begin with. I will definitely buy the stream now without hesitation. I have a few friends who are SC2 fans who also will now be paying up the 20 bucks.

I looked at the stream quality and people in this thread who are complaining are literally crazy and i almost would suspect them as trolls if i didnt know how self-entitled people can be. Going around claiming that the quality is "vomit" on a forum is disgusting and a little respect should at least be given to Gom for trying as hard as they may be able to to do what we are asking of them. I love TL but all the "stream quality is vomit" and "SC2 sucks because its killing BW" crap is getting embarrassingly old.

Thank you again Gom. You handled the problem with dignity which is rare.
Starcraft player since 1999
lepya
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland5 Posts
September 03 2010 15:50 GMT
#199
On September 04 2010 00:42 KentHenry wrote:
So when does the first match start? I read that it started on September 4th at 7:00 P.M KST but I'm not familiar with Korean time zone, would this be around 5 A.M EST?


Enter the time here and it will convert the time to your local time.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/

Good job GOMTV, I'm gonna buy this 20$ VOD + Live HQ packet!
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
September 03 2010 15:54 GMT
#200
It's so funny how Blizzard works. They always start with a ridiculous idea to see if they can get away with it and once the community says f-no they change it. It's great that they listen tho, but I really think they saw this coming and just wanted to see how much they could get away with as far as profit margins go.
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