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shiNe.
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada120 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 04:48:53
August 27 2010 04:44 GMT
#1
So I seem to be hitting a stump where I can't play over 10 games or I start to lose focus/concentration.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/517107/1/shiNe/
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I'm 13th (was 3rd) in 1v1 diamond league and I play terran and I want to get to rank 1, or maybe move out of this league and play some known sc2ers

So, my stump.. I find myself not being able to play over 10 or so games in a day (winning or losing). Either I will get bored, or I will get mad etc. etc. Now, if I find myself playing over 10 games, I will just start playing much worse and lose ~80% of my games, maybe it is a concentration thing.

So I guess my question is how do you guys just get in the zone and just keep playing? Do you guys listen to music? Is it a drive to get to rank 1/get better? Are you guys just constantly finding yourself insanely eager to keep jumping into the next 1v1? All of the above, maybe something else? Maybe a little bit of the ganja? Let me know.

Personally, I listen to DI trance radio when I play. The funny part is, I almost enjoy watching starcraft and discussing starcraft more than actually playing (removes stress, physical/mental strain etc).

Most of you are probably going to say, "what's wrong with 10 games a day"? For the most part there is nothing wrong with it, but when I'm not working on a day or have any plans during the day, I have my schedule open up to climb some sc2 ladder. This is when find myself after 10 or so games just logging off and watching sc2 stuff or w/e, if I play more I start to lose concentration. Also, I find if I try taking a 30 min or so break it becomes difficult to jump back in, there is too much sc2 stuff to watch (day9, youtube stuff, debo's hilarious analysis')

So I guess my question is directed to those hardcore players who have all of those pimp portraits (I really want my ghost one.. only 140 or so to go!! -.-).

How do YOU guys and gals get in the zone!!! (by zone I mean longer playing sessions with complete focus)
tok
Profile Joined April 2010
United States691 Posts
August 27 2010 04:47 GMT
#2
I play casually, the last thing I want to do is burn out on the game.

When I want to start laddering, I turn on the drum and bass music. Watch a funny youtube video, then start raging people cus I play Terran.
Gnarwhal
Profile Joined May 2010
United States33 Posts
August 27 2010 04:51 GMT
#3
The only time i will play more than 10 games consecutively is when I'm calm, focused and winning. I stop when I'm playing like an idiot and just doing terrible cause I'm mad at the previous game. I like listening to dubstep or ska while playing any video game.
Hail the mighty Thoughthammer!
SaikOuLighT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada742 Posts
August 27 2010 05:00 GMT
#4
I find that i play my very best when i don't think about the game im playing. I just don't think about winning or losing and i just let my instincts takeover. This allows me to play for a very long time, because i tend to make less mistakes when i play this way, and i tend not to tilt if i lose, which is good because i tend to go on losing streaks when i tilt.
Seraph.yongweihua
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada224 Posts
August 27 2010 05:01 GMT
#5
I drink one of those out of control energy drinks, such as bear semen energy drink (contains no actual bear semen) and blast some trance.
A.J.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States209 Posts
August 27 2010 05:02 GMT
#6
I usually play about 3 ladder games then take a break and watch Sc2 YouTube videos. Then I might go back on and play a few more games. I turn it off If I find myself raging and making stupid mistakes.
Take a chance
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
August 27 2010 05:03 GMT
#7
I drink energy drinks and listen to nothing but the BW Terran scores. The same music = the same tempo the entire time (even though there are tempo changes in those as well, but atleast I know when its coming). It is especially hard to get into the zone unless I do these two things but I work the overnight shift..

Lately I have been laddering less and trying to find practice partners in custom games. The problem is I'm crushing my competition when I'm focused (completely 1-sided) and just botching the game when I'm not. I think anyone who plays this game for a long, long time will get much better over a longer period of time. Don't stress too much about becoming the best of the best in a short amount of time...I'm sure this game will be around for quite some time. Build orders, timing attacks, and basic RTS 'fundamentals' will come more naturally if you're just consistant with it.
shiNe.
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada120 Posts
August 27 2010 05:03 GMT
#8
Having Instincts with the game as opposed to thinking about the game is a cool way of looking at it. I don't think I can do that yet, I need to think a lot when i'm playing.. :/ I guess I can try? heh
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 05:40:40
August 27 2010 05:39 GMT
#9
I don't do anything special. No special music or food or ritual. I just play until I feel like stopping then I stop, then when I feel like playing again, I play some more

Although whenever I have a game that I need to take more seriously (I played this TvZ against someone I knew and was trying to impress, for example), I play some Getting Shit Done music:
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 27 2010 05:44 GMT
#10
coffee. lots of coffee and bathroom breaks after every game. if you start losing a lot, cheese a few people to get back on track.
The Show of a Lifetime
Apollys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States278 Posts
August 27 2010 05:45 GMT
#11
I recently started playing a LOT more games with practice partners and friends, and stopped caring about the ladder so much. This is just my perspective, but I think it helps one improve a lot and it makes the game a lot less stressful and generally more enjoyable to play. For me, that is...
When you're feeling down, I'll be there to feel you up!
MaReK
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Australia446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 05:51:08
August 27 2010 05:50 GMT
#12
I just got used to playing mass games everyday. As for getting in the zone, music gets me there pretty dam fast.
"My wife only has sex with me for a purpose. Last night it was to time an egg "
Skee
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada702 Posts
August 27 2010 05:55 GMT
#13
Some nights its Metal, some nights its Nu Metal, some nights its techno.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
August 27 2010 06:07 GMT
#14
Drink a bit and listen to upbeat music ^-^
shiNe.
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada120 Posts
August 27 2010 06:08 GMT
#15
terranist: I am a coffee lover, that is a fact. :D

apollys: I don't have a lot of practice partners
OblivionStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2010
United States43 Posts
August 27 2010 06:39 GMT
#16
I'm a casual so my opinion might not be the best. All I do is get a friend or two and do a few practice games, then turn on osu and let it auto-play while I ladder.
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
August 27 2010 06:50 GMT
#17
On August 27 2010 14:39 Vokasak wrote:
I don't do anything special. No special music or food or ritual. I just play until I feel like stopping then I stop, then when I feel like playing again, I play some more

Although whenever I have a game that I need to take more seriously (I played this TvZ against someone I knew and was trying to impress, for example), I play some Getting Shit Done music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IClGbW4Nj2g


The original is better :D


<3

Yeah I listen to some high beat per. minute music aswell.
TG Sambo... Intel classic! Life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
August 27 2010 07:07 GMT
#18
maybe try playing a few custom games when u feeling that way, where the result doesnt really matter.

u could even play some custom games with an off-race just for fun.

i like to watch streams when i take a break, seeing pro people own just gets me in the mood to play again :D best type of break to take is a starcraft-related break, gives u a rest from the pressure and intensity and then makes u pumped to play again!
bryshan
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden10 Posts
August 27 2010 07:29 GMT
#19
Well, like you said it yourself, you loose concentration. And that is nothing wrong. It happends, and it happends to almost everyone. But there are people who can keep their concentration up. And its all about your mindset.

What you must do is to say to yourself that right now, I am going to play a session of 15 games. Make sure there are no distractions, turn off your phone, and tell yourself over and over again that you will focus and concentrate on playing good.

It is very important to play without distraction because that is the reason why many people play bad, because they are distracted.


RAGE.
About rage, if you rage you'll never be a optimal player because rage does inflict your overall game and will eventually be the main cause of a loss. So learn to deal with your temper. But can be very hard if you've had bad temper your whole life.


There arent too many articles/posts/information about the correct mindset when playing Starcraft, but if you want to read about it and how to set your mind right there is another source, look for online poker articles. There are alot of it and you can apply them to your Starcraft gaming. Because the mindset are pretty much the exact same.


I hope you can eventually figure it out! Good luck!


Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
August 27 2010 07:31 GMT
#20
I dont understand why anyone would WANT to be zoned into entertainment...

just makes no sense
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
August 27 2010 07:34 GMT
#21
On August 27 2010 16:31 Vz0 wrote:
I dont understand why anyone would WANT to be zoned into entertainment...

just makes no sense


For some (99% of TL community) Starcraft is more than just entertainment - it's a sport! .
TG Sambo... Intel classic! Life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
RoarMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada745 Posts
August 27 2010 09:10 GMT
#22
I honestly think that if you're getting bored of Sc2, take a break. It really doesn't say anywhere you have to grind long gaming sessions, those don't really help you improve ( if you're playing them mindlessly that is.)

What does get me in the zone though is good ole Sc1 music :D. Or some of my music ( I listen to a variety, Metallica, Jimi Hendrix, Dre, Justice, and Daft Punk get me pumped though :D
All the pros got dat Ichie.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
August 27 2010 09:17 GMT
#23
weed
RubiksCube
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 09:27:13
August 27 2010 09:26 GMT
#24
Genovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden388 Posts
August 27 2010 09:30 GMT
#25
For me there are two things that get me focused.
If I loose a lot of games, going outside having a smoke and just relaxing a bit.
If I win a lot of games unexpectedly losing a game really makes me focus on the next one.
We fucking lost team - RTZ
shiNe.
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada120 Posts
August 27 2010 12:49 GMT
#26
Vz0, it's fun? lol
iRRelevance
Profile Joined June 2009
Romania725 Posts
August 27 2010 12:52 GMT
#27
Beer.



seriously
"You can ... draw sounds ?"
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
August 27 2010 13:03 GMT
#28
If you find ways to force yourself to stay interested and keep playing you're going to burn out and be one of those guys posting about how he is bored of the game now in a few weeks. I play about 10 or less games a night and it's not time but quality that makes you better and 10 games is enough for a standard person.
Being weak is a choice.
kentonator
Profile Joined July 2010
Vatican City State95 Posts
August 27 2010 13:23 GMT
#29
Pandora's Dubstep channel is usually what I listen to if I am in the mood for music and starcraft.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 27 2010 13:40 GMT
#30
Alcohol definitely helps, in small amounts of course. And isolation. Hearing people in the stairwell outside my apartment or people making noise in the common area or people... Basically isolate yourself from people.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
wacksteven
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States139 Posts
August 27 2010 13:48 GMT
#31
Why try to play 10 consecutive games? Maybe take a break after 5 and make some food or something. If you take your mind off the game a bit and then hop back in you might find your concentration returning. O_o
Former War3/BW/ET/UT2k4 Shoutcaster and now: an all-around, super-huggable old guy. Co-King of Tin with @djWHEAT, available on twitter @wacksteven @KingsOfTin
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
August 27 2010 13:58 GMT
#32
1) take a short break for some water/walk around a bit/exercise
2) custom games to try out new styles or offrace
time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
August 27 2010 14:13 GMT
#33
You're actually going to need another 500 - 600 points to be able to play with the big boys.

I think everyone has their own way of getting into the zone. For me listening to the Zerg BGM keeps me focused oddly enough. Usually I like to listen to my own music, but I noticed that I make silly mistakes if I do that =P.

I have the same problem as you, when you starting going 10 + games you start feeling a bit of fatigue. That's because starcraft has such a strain on your mental state to play it. Typically I feel really really hot in my face after 10 - 12 games of SC2, forcing myself to play anymore usually amounts to bad stuff happening.

What I've been doing to give myself some rest is either watch a stream, watch a non-starcraft related video, or go over some replays. What I believe is best is either do something non-starcraft related for an hour or go over a few replays for an hour if you really want to improve yourself hardcore. Watching a replay can get you pumped up to play another set of 10 or so games, and after an hour of rest you should ready to play more.

But mass gaming for hours straight up seems too brutal for regular folks like us. I don't know how those Koreans can do it for years, its not a surprise they burn out, it's more of a surprise that they haven't burned out sooner.
Zilver
Profile Joined December 2008
Finland282 Posts
August 27 2010 14:29 GMT
#34
A good night of sleep allows me to play up to 8 hours in a day with a few breaks in-between, unfortunately this doesn't happen often because I gotta wake up early in the morning for work.
1a2a3a iWin
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
August 27 2010 14:30 GMT
#35
losing gets me in the zone
simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
August 27 2010 14:49 GMT
#36
bragging about his rank as a terran xD

And why would u need to be in the zone u play because it's fun just becuz ur diamond doesn't make u a pro.. Therefor u have no obligations to play and if you don't feel like then you shouldn't play the games aren't meant to be boring.
RushGG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom212 Posts
August 27 2010 15:14 GMT
#37
Listening to Rainbow - A, shortly followed by some tech house. This gets me pumped.
~ 안녕, 저는 현재 한국어를 배우는 중이에요 :D ~ Follow me on Twitter @RushGeeGee
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
August 27 2010 15:16 GMT
#38


Nothing gets me more amped up. Ever.
:P
Azile
Profile Joined March 2010
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 15:17:19
August 27 2010 15:16 GMT
#39
di.fm don't ladder without it.
Qwerty.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
August 27 2010 15:26 GMT
#40
watch progamers play
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
August 27 2010 15:29 GMT
#41
Electronic-Music and the spirit of: " Now I show them what I really can do!" ^^'

Sometimes I'm loosing in a game and it just "clicks" and I say: "I'm not gonna loose this game" and I start to really playing my A-Game. xD
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
August 27 2010 16:03 GMT
#42
On August 27 2010 21:52 iRRelevance wrote:
Beer.



seriously


If I drink beer before I game, more than 2 that is, I feel like I'm always too slow. It usually turns out I really am

For me the only way to play for a long time is to play with friends.
Not enough energy
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 16:09:27
August 27 2010 16:06 GMT
#43
I smoke a huge bowl before my first game, and take a nice hit between games after that. Helps keep me from stressing out and after a few games, I am one with the Overmind. It also keeps me from raging AT ALL - I mean my losses cause me very little stress. If I lose, I usually just watch the replay and smoke another fatty.

Before you guys hate on me, weed doesn't dull my reflexes - it sharpens them. When I get "zoned in" my entire muscle memory becomes in tune with the Starcraft as if I AM STARCRAFT. I am the same way at Super Smash Bros - when I'm high my timing becomes much more acute. I checked a replay and I was playing with a final average of 91 APM last night, which is pretty good for SC2.

And as the other guy said, I play with no distractions - door closed and no music (except in-game on low volume).
"Sentry imba! You see? YOU SEE??!!" - Sen | "Marauder die die!" - oGsMC | "Oh my god, she texted me back!" - Day[9]
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 27 2010 16:11 GMT
#44
On August 27 2010 16:31 Vz0 wrote:
I dont understand why anyone would WANT to be zoned into entertainment...

just makes no sense


Because some of us don't think of SC as entertainment. Competition.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
August 27 2010 18:26 GMT
#45
On August 28 2010 01:06 Uranium wrote:
I smoke a huge bowl before my first game, and take a nice hit between games after that. Helps keep me from stressing out and after a few games, I am one with the Overmind. It also keeps me from raging AT ALL - I mean my losses cause me very little stress. If I lose, I usually just watch the replay and smoke another fatty.

Before you guys hate on me, weed doesn't dull my reflexes - it sharpens them. When I get "zoned in" my entire muscle memory becomes in tune with the Starcraft as if I AM STARCRAFT. I am the same way at Super Smash Bros - when I'm high my timing becomes much more acute. I checked a replay and I was playing with a final average of 91 APM last night, which is pretty good for SC2.

And as the other guy said, I play with no distractions - door closed and no music (except in-game on low volume).


ahahah i do the same.
it really calms me and help me focus while avoiding rage
shiNe.
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada120 Posts
August 27 2010 23:46 GMT
#46
Lots of really good replies...

Beer. I really don't think this would help me at all, if anything it would make me more tired or play sloppy

Weed. Not the biggest fan of weed, it kills brain cells and damages your lungs, but Im not here to preach

Music. I usually listen to di trance, but lately the trance station has started getting worse, i'm thinking about switching to tech house or something.
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 23:47:53
August 27 2010 23:47 GMT
#47
On August 27 2010 16:34 Qzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 16:31 Vz0 wrote:
I dont understand why anyone would WANT to be zoned into entertainment...

just makes no sense


For some (99% of TL community) Starcraft is more than just entertainment - it's a sport! .

ah i guess so then.

although i personally treat it more as entertainment :D
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
August 27 2010 23:47 GMT
#48
LSD.

Incredibly hard to play, but so exhilarating, I can play forever on that stuff.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
JTouche
Profile Joined August 2010
United States239 Posts
August 28 2010 00:33 GMT
#49
I know exactly what your talking about. As you keep playing more games you hit a point where your focus is shot and your not as quick with your reactions/macro/micro. The only thing that can remedy this is time. Take a break, get something to eat, read two chapters from your favorite book. Your focus and concentration is drained, playing beyond this point will only bring you more losses. Once you feel well and up to it again, log on and pwn some noobs!

Love is the only sane and satisfactory answer to the problem of human existence. ~Eric Fromm
Thoreezhea1
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States532 Posts
August 28 2010 00:38 GMT
#50
99 bottles of root beer on the desk.. 99 bottles of root beer on the desk.. Take it around, pass it around... 98 bottles of root beer on the desk.........
What the Fu- REAPERS?!
Smurfz
Profile Joined May 2008
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 02:36:57
August 28 2010 02:30 GMT
#51
Go on a run. Seriously, it helps clear your mind well. Doesn't have to be a long run at all, but get decently tired or breathing hard. Listen to "eye of the tiger" and punch the air to feel badass if you want.
freshiie22
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada132 Posts
August 28 2010 06:25 GMT
#52
Vagina.........
Phase 1: Bronze League Rank 78. Phase 2: Silver Rank 45 .August 23: Platinum Rank 7 and climbing
Radio.active
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States121 Posts
August 28 2010 06:31 GMT
#53
really i like good drum'n base or techno. Pendulum, crystal method, the prodigy, and some techno songs downloaded from the internet.

although the rage that i get from loosing to some scrub who dt rushes, causing me to focus hard the next game.
-_-
Owarida
Profile Joined April 2010
United States333 Posts
August 28 2010 06:33 GMT
#54
Tell my girlfriend to fuck off...Thats about the only thing stoping me from playing more than 10 games any given day
FaZe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada472 Posts
August 28 2010 06:38 GMT
#55
On August 28 2010 11:30 Smurfz wrote:
Go on a run. Seriously, it helps clear your mind well. Doesn't have to be a long run at all, but get decently tired or breathing hard. Listen to "eye of the tiger" and punch the air to feel badass if you want.


I 101% agree with this. I go for a run / go to the gym every couple hours when I'm practicing - and it helps SO much!
"Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none."
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
August 28 2010 06:40 GMT
#56
i start out by playing a few games against my dia league friend (who i'm actually pretty even with. i win about 50% of the time against him, and he's usually the most challenging opponent of the day). then when i start to ladder i listen to calming music. not like slow soundtracks, but folk music. i've always loved folk music because it really really calms me down. and as a zerg player i'm susceptible to raging.
Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
August 28 2010 06:41 GMT
#57
On August 27 2010 18:26 RubiksCube wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8DfX1dTo4I



DO NOT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LISTEN TO THIS WHILE PLAYING STARCRAFT. Seriously, in the middle of a match this song came up in my playlist and I was freaking out every time I heard the tank seiging sound. Its like listening to a song and suddenly you hear the dark templar sword sound when your Terran. I'm sure every T would freak out and look at all their bases looking to see where the scvs are dieing.
I'm a Crab made of men.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 28 2010 06:43 GMT
#58
I just keep playing.

The more I play in one sitting, the more comfortable I get, and usually my record reflects that, while I often start the day with losing streaks.

Sometimes I drink a little first, but somehow I think this has more to do with my losing than getting more comfortable.
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 06:44:18
August 28 2010 06:43 GMT
#59
I've started a ritual.
If i loose 3 games in a row, I go for a run... Sucks to loose 3 games, come back and start loosing again. Aghhhhh!

Usually i mass 30+ games a day.
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TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
August 28 2010 06:47 GMT
#60
I play casually, but then if I lose the game before, my consecutive game can be a bit thrilling and scared in the beginning, however as the mid game progresses I'm feeling fine. If I'm on a lose streak of 3 or higher, I watch the replays, learn what I do wrong, and take a break for the day.
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ExoTau
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada67 Posts
August 28 2010 06:48 GMT
#61
caffeine help me overcome my declining 32 y old reflexes
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