EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 904
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
Tyler still chilling... Tasteless. sup dawg | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:16 Mailing wrote: Bam, there is a 1/5 x 1/5 chance (4%) that NesTea is out of the BO3 tourney to a worse player every time he plays. I agree with your overall point, but let's be fair - how often do players mention how difficult qualifiers are, and how often do we see upsets in them? Or champions exiting early in leagues? Even high-level BW players could be taken down by an unfavored player just because of how strong all pros were. SC2 is definitely more extreme in that regard, though, so I don't disagree with what you're getting at. | ||
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bwally
United States670 Posts
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Ganjamaster
Argentina475 Posts
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:19 drox22 wrote: If there were a way to always scout all ins what would be the point of taking a risk in the first place? It would completely nullify all ins but all ins are part of the game, get used to it. Terran and protoss can scout all-ins. If a zerg makes 25 zerglings and gets early gas, a terran can see that with a SCV and infer a bane bust is coming, and make a wall. A protoss can make an extra sentry and FF. If a zerg sees 15 marines and 20 scv charge out of a terrans base, and just made a round of drones, there is almost nothing they can do, unless they BLINDLY already built 3 spines or a bane nest. If they do this blind safety practice, and the terran does NOT all in, they are BEHIND in econ. | ||
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
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maahes`ra
United States255 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:19 NExt wrote: They're arguing different things i don't think they realise it. This is common amongst most debate - check this clip out. It's a shame - this SotG started off really well, but quickly got shitty. :/ For the first time in forever, I'm tagging out early. Congrats on the 20k, however. | ||
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DarthKhan
Canada166 Posts
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Ottoxlol
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Shaetan
United States1175 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:19 Goibon wrote: Seriously what Tyler is saying is completely consistent with this official TL thread How is there any debate over this? READ THE THREAD. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117332 Pretty sure it's safe to say that EG has contributed significantly to the community. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:16 TheTenthDoc wrote: I'd like to echo that the worst thing about balance discussion is the venom that it instills in the community. Just following jtv stream chats, there's so many "take that you dirty terran/protoss/zerg" and "omg that race is so op" and it's only getting worse over time as far as I can tell. It's so depressing. I didn't follow enough of the beta to determine what caused it...but it's so, so depressing. Honestly, some stream chats are so hostile to my race I don't even bother opening them, and that's terrible. I find the worst issue to be how that it slows down the progress of such a huge part of the community, even in masters league I forget how many people I play that I roll because they did some HUGE timing mistake, like a protoss going a 1 gate expand on a smaller map, and losing so much stuff to early pressure that they die to a timing push a bit later just before their expansion is really kicking in and then instantly blaming it on balance. Or people who tech and expand at the same time, get crushed and blame it on balance. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
I never thought that would happen. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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AWakefield
Canada420 Posts
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Asparagus
United States269 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:13 drox22 wrote: they do, lings and overlords. What does protoss have? nothing MAYBE a fast observers which is extremely risky in the first place. What does a terran have? Scans? What if you use a overlord to hide your tech like the baneling nest for a bbust or what if you build your tech at your expo and he scans your main? He has no information either and sacrificed economy for that (no mule - terran falls behind in eco) 1base roach 1base speedling 1base baneling all in 1base muta 1base 3roach/speedling all in 1base hydra 1base uldra 2base mass queens 1base mass queens 1base fast infestors negating the fact that most of these builds are just plain retarded, all p or t has to do is scout the warren or the baneling nest with with the scouting SCV/probe, and as long as you don't see a zerg with 26 drones at his natural at 6 minutes I'm sure P and T aren't worried much about being behind... | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
Holy shit this is an epic State of the Game | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
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Nik0
Uruguay460 Posts
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