EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 890
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rO_Or
United States306 Posts
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dLKnighT
Canada735 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5225 Posts
Thus, they can lose to something randomly, regardless of skill. That is a bad game mechanic. Tyler had a good rebuttal, whereas Day[9] did not, he stated that Protoss takes risks and does a build that might lose to X but are safe against Y, Z and W, and the Protoss just hopes Zerg doesn't do X, and it often pays off, since Zerg only does X a small amount of the time (often doing Y, Z or W). Idra agreed, and said that was a bad game mechanic too, because it introduces random chance, like rock-paper-scissors. Tyler agreed. So in the end, Tyler and Idra agree that the game is mechanically bad, because of the randomness. That sums up the arguement. I love logical arguements. | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:39 Ribbon wrote: Idra says we wants a build that's safe against everything. Day[9] says Spanishiwa. Idra says it doesn't beat super-greedy builds. Idra wants Zerg to be able to hard-counter EVERYTHING. Since when were economical builds super greedy? | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:40 Shaetan wrote: /commercial /commercial /commercial hehe I was honestly expecting him to do that as a joke.  (and for money) | ||
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:34 Vei wrote: FUCK IDRA<333 hahahaha, asking sean for specifics and he can't provide any. how shocking: someone who commentates and never plays can't say anything other than "well i disagree but i can't provide specific counterarguments" Please just stop. If you want to criticize at least do it respectfully. This is Teamliquid not some battle.net forum. Also I know for a fact that Day9 plays at a high level in Starcraft 2 with his smurf accounts. To say that he has no idea what he is talking about is just ignorant. | ||
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Spectorials
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Tasteless: "What is that face Idra is making?" lolololol | ||
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AxelTVx
Canada916 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:41 rysecake wrote: Idra should just switch races... did artosis switch because he thought P was OP? | ||
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mikyaJ
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On May 04 2011 13:40 PantsB wrote: Idra is convinced he's superior to everyone who isn't Korean. Yet he loses sometimes. It make these compatible he blames external factors such as the race he plays being underpowered in both BW and SC2. He's always done it, its not rational. It doesn't show Z as UP. The evidence doesn't back him up in NASL or GSL but its never been based on reason. Its about emotion and frustration and rage. Quoting statistics does nothing. What IdrA is saying is that the Zerg will only win if the Terran or Protoss makes mistakes or doesn't play to their fullest. Obviously Zerg will still win within his theory. | ||
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Crais
Canada2136 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:40 dtz wrote: or you can always play like julyzerg and pay no heed to what opponent does. but i think philosophically, idra does not like that. Idra asked for a def build and Day9 gave him one. However it isn't good vs greedy builds. Idra wants a build that can beat everything. Doesn't exist. Shouldn't exist. | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
Can't understand how this could be worth listening to every week as the opinions of the participants won't move an inch regardless of how good arguements the other parts make.. | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
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relyt
United States1073 Posts
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
It actually turned out to be a pretty good discussion. | ||
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Cartel
Canada255 Posts
So let me give Day9 and example. What if Zerglings did 50 dmg. Would each race find a way to make the overall game balanced? Would it just take time? Of course its not balanced, and should be fixed. But Day9 would think its balanced we just haven't figured it out yet. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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