EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 310
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Elite_Fury
United States17 Posts
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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Cyanocyst
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If two players play a series in the winners bracket, then there's only two ways those players will play again. 1) The two player face again in the Grand Finals. Which given that its double elimination already, the extended series rule is almost mute, because the winner of the winners bracket gets his chance to lose one best of 3. 2) The two players will meet again in the lower bracket. This obviously is the more likely scenario. Since they're meeting in the lower bracket they should be on equal footing. Given that the player who lost first series, would have had to fight his way though the looser's bracket to get to that point. That should be his only punishment, if you make him play an extended series its almost like double jeopardy. Especially since both players at that point have lost only 1 series, at that point. If you go by way of the extended series rule, you make it so that the winner of the first series has to loose 3 best of 3's in order to be eliminated. (he's already lost 1 Bo3, thats how he got to the lower bracket) + Show Spoiler + Also with extended series, say the Husky sends me to the lower bracket, then later on Husky gets eliminated by HDStarcraft. Technically one could make the case that if i had to play HDStarcraft later on in the lower bracket, then he should inherit the extended series advantage that Husky earned by beating me. Meaning that i would have to win 2 best of 3's vs HD, but he only has to win 1 best of 3 vs me. Though personally double elimination is screwy. I'm much more in favor of Single elimination, though to ensure more accuracy make them all Bo5's. | ||
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Elite_Fury
United States17 Posts
On December 02 2010 12:29 Cyanocyst wrote: Though personally double elimination is screwy. I'm much more in favor of Single elimination, though to ensure more accuracy make them all Bo5's. I think group stage Bo3s's into a single elimination Bo5's would be awesome. | ||
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On December 02 2010 12:41 Elite_Fury wrote: I think group stage Bo3s's into a single elimination Bo5's would be awesome. Unlike GSL, MLG doesn't show us the entire tournament. So best of 5's are actually do able, and the actual amount of games played is comparable to that of the double elimination set up. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
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Daray
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KebertXela
United States322 Posts
As a side note, the overlapping and quieting of mics is starting to become annoying. maybe you guys can switch to another voip program? I don't know how to fix it, it's not easy but I hope you guys can minimize it in the near future. Regardless, great show!! | ||
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Eko200
United States101 Posts
Lets take for instance player A faces player B Round 1. B wins that Bo3. B then loses right after and faces A again in the LOSERS bracket. A then proceeds to win the extended series against B. Everyone can agree that B should be elminated from the tournament. But what I think most people have a problem with is that A is in the LOSERS bracket DESPITE never losing a series, and that's with us considering his games against B all ONE series as MLG Lee wants us to consider it as. | ||
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Strut
United States182 Posts
MLG will never be anything other then a really big lan party. gg esports ;( | ||
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Scrimpton
United Kingdom465 Posts
but it did seem MLG trying to stick to their guns.. | ||
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Strut
United States182 Posts
On December 02 2010 06:32 Liquid`Tyler wrote: have you heard of malazan series? it's my favorite. but i agree SOIAF is much better than WoT. im gonna read the black company next, which idra recommends, and which came before malazan series and supposedly inspires the malazan series in a few ways. ugh, don't recommend the malazan series... i think i finished 5 books in that series.. terrible terrible writing. there are some cool scenes and ideas, but its not worth reading 1200 pages each book. there is rarely any explanations from the author, massive amounts of new characters introduced each book, and many others forgotten. take notes if u read this series. its not much of a story, more of a made up fantasy history.. that hides too many facts from you | ||
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Dingotrold
Denmark622 Posts
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kadaver_BB
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SharkSpider
Canada606 Posts
On December 02 2010 14:36 kadaver_BB wrote: Not sure if it has been brought up yet, but what is with incontrol saying idra is thinking about quitting and starting to play professional poker? Where did that come from?^^ I think it was more anecdotal, ie Idra figured the mapset and matcup state was such that he'd have a better shot at online poker than this season of GSL. The example was used to illustrate the fact that the player he played right after was terrible, since Idra was losing the same games to people like incontrol. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 02 2010 14:33 Dingotrold wrote: Can anybody link to the Kennigit MORTAL KOMBAT thread? :D http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45486 Awesome stuff. xD | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On December 02 2010 08:59 EchOne wrote: On sound-canceling headphones: I'm skeptical of Lee's claim that active noise control (ANC) technology is rooted in military research, and that its limitations on canceling high-frequency sound are based on intentional design decisions to allow high-frequency sound. ANC has military applications that usually demand devices that allow speech, but military applications don't necessarily have identical requirements to commercial applications in general, let alone eSports applications. ANC and phase canceling may be more effective against continuous, low-frequency noise than sudden high-frequency noise like speech, but is the reason really because the military demanded that devices be designed that way? He's confusing noise-canceling and sound-canceling. Sound-canceling doesn't require fancy digital signal processing, it requires physically insulating the player's ears from any outside noise. | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On December 02 2010 12:41 Elite_Fury wrote: I think group stage Bo3s's into a single elimination Bo5's would be awesome. As a spectator, I don't really care who is getting gypped in losers bracket round 8 or whatever. What I do care about is the quarter/semi/grand finals. At that stage the thing should be single elim with no extended series. There's absolutely nothing more anticlimactic than a final match with 2 games. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 02 2010 16:32 kojinshugi wrote: There's absolutely nothing more anticlimactic than a final match with 2 games. This. Grand final with the extended series rule is anything except "grand". None of the MLG grand finals were worth watching from spectators' perspective, probably from casual players' perspective either as you're rarely going to get good games in a situation like that. | ||
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TwentyAPM
United States17 Posts
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