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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10137 Posts
November 09 2012 14:44 GMT
#51181
On November 09 2012 23:43 chukolna wrote:
sotg is not what it use to be ;(


Yeah, now it has "the symphony".
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 09 2012 14:48 GMT
#51182
Really liked the show, the "random" guests were really cool and major was really funny :D
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
November 09 2012 14:54 GMT
#51183
I actually like the new sotg better, great work.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
November 09 2012 15:55 GMT
#51184
Major has been a really pleasant surprise for this show. Moonglade also adds quite a bit to this episode. Keep it coming!
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 16:15:01
November 09 2012 16:14 GMT
#51185
just wanna say i really like the new shows. even more than the ones before the long break.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 09 2012 18:17 GMT
#51186
Was a very good SotG show once again! I really dig the laid back, drama free style of the relaunch.
I'm quickly becoming a Major fan - I used to be a sceptic of his, considering the many team changes in his past, but he has a really great personality, is rational and funny. Wouldn't mind at all to see him more often on the show!
Thanks JP
Get off my lawn, young punks
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
November 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#51187
I wish you guys had discussed Rain not playing in the GSL more thoroughly. I still don't see what the affect would have been if they pushed back the group stages by one day. There is plenty of time off after the first round of group stages, so players would only lose one day of practice. They wouldn't even have to push back the finals or second group stage if they did this. Then, they didn't even replace him, which gave Hyun a free win, which devalues that whole group. And finally on top of all that not having one of the top 5(?) players in the world in your event because you didn't want to reschedule the group devalues the whole tournament, because who ever wins, didn't have to face Rain, or the person who was able to take a series or group win from him. It seems less like KESPA pulling their player, and more like GOM, not making allowances for that player, which is weird considering all the drama that happened a few months ago.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
November 09 2012 19:11 GMT
#51188
As many people have said before me, Major was awesome on the show! He should be on more often
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:13:52
November 09 2012 19:11 GMT
#51189
On November 10 2012 04:09 NoobSkills wrote:
I wish you guys had discussed Rain not playing in the GSL more thoroughly. I still don't see what the affect would have been if they pushed back the group stages by one day. There is plenty of time off after the first round of group stages, so players would only lose one day of practice. They wouldn't even have to push back the finals or second group stage if they did this. Then, they didn't even replace him, which gave Hyun a free win, which devalues that whole group. And finally on top of all that not having one of the top 5(?) players in the world in your event because you didn't want to reschedule the group devalues the whole tournament, because who ever wins, didn't have to face Rain, or the person who was able to take a series or group win from him. It seems less like KESPA pulling their player, and more like GOM, not making allowances for that player, which is weird considering all the drama that happened a few months ago.


If you had cared enough to look up the statement made by gom, you could see there was no possible way to move the day because of players leaving for MLG and GSTL taking up the other broadcast days during that week.

Why you would think gom would purposely not try to fix the schedule to let him play in their league is very puzzling, they lose and no one wins. ( except kespa, sort of )
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
November 09 2012 19:16 GMT
#51190
It seems like Major has really become more personable in these past few months; he was hilarious on this episode of SOTG. It is also awesome to be able to get Wolf's opinion on the game outside of the GSL. Please, do continue
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
November 09 2012 19:28 GMT
#51191
On November 10 2012 04:11 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 04:09 NoobSkills wrote:
I wish you guys had discussed Rain not playing in the GSL more thoroughly. I still don't see what the affect would have been if they pushed back the group stages by one day. There is plenty of time off after the first round of group stages, so players would only lose one day of practice. They wouldn't even have to push back the finals or second group stage if they did this. Then, they didn't even replace him, which gave Hyun a free win, which devalues that whole group. And finally on top of all that not having one of the top 5(?) players in the world in your event because you didn't want to reschedule the group devalues the whole tournament, because who ever wins, didn't have to face Rain, or the person who was able to take a series or group win from him. It seems less like KESPA pulling their player, and more like GOM, not making allowances for that player, which is weird considering all the drama that happened a few months ago.


If you had cared enough to look up the statement made by gom, you could see there was no possible way to move the day because of players leaving for MLG and GSTL taking up the other broadcast days during that week.

Why you would think gom would purposely not try to fix the schedule to let him play in their league is very puzzling, they lose and no one wins. ( except kespa, sort of )


I did look at the statement, pushing back the second group stage by 1 day and actually using the 17th and 18th of that month for code A matches would allow the whole tournament to run without a hitch. They had the option. Also nobody from the code A matches are in IEM or WCS that weekend.

Why? I don't think they have any reason, there really isn't a reason to not have a player like Rain. I'm just saying that it is strange that they did in fact have an option, but didn't see it I guess. And how does KESPA win? They certainly want their players to win against ESF players. You seem to be one of those white-knight GOM lovers though, so I forgive you.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 09 2012 19:32 GMT
#51192
On November 10 2012 04:09 NoobSkills wrote:
I wish you guys had discussed Rain not playing in the GSL more thoroughly. I still don't see what the affect would have been if they pushed back the group stages by one day. There is plenty of time off after the first round of group stages, so players would only lose one day of practice. They wouldn't even have to push back the finals or second group stage if they did this. Then, they didn't even replace him, which gave Hyun a free win, which devalues that whole group. And finally on top of all that not having one of the top 5(?) players in the world in your event because you didn't want to reschedule the group devalues the whole tournament, because who ever wins, didn't have to face Rain, or the person who was able to take a series or group win from him. It seems less like KESPA pulling their player, and more like GOM, not making allowances for that player, which is weird considering all the drama that happened a few months ago.

There is a thread that discussed this to death, what could they possibly achieve by discussing this despite reiterating what has been stated a thousand times (no schedule slip possible due to finals in Las Vegas, every single other team/player was competent enough to inform GOM ahead of time, the forfeit was the mildest possible punishment compared to Fnatic.Rain etc), except to stir up drama or endulge in conspiracy theories.. Good move not to discuss this on the show.
Get off my lawn, young punks
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 09 2012 19:33 GMT
#51193
On November 09 2012 23:43 chukolna wrote:
sotg is not what it use to be ;(


Yeah I was confused when I tuned in and heard Starcraft being discussed too
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 09 2012 21:01 GMT
#51194
On November 10 2012 04:28 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 04:11 Dodgin wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:09 NoobSkills wrote:
I wish you guys had discussed Rain not playing in the GSL more thoroughly. I still don't see what the affect would have been if they pushed back the group stages by one day. There is plenty of time off after the first round of group stages, so players would only lose one day of practice. They wouldn't even have to push back the finals or second group stage if they did this. Then, they didn't even replace him, which gave Hyun a free win, which devalues that whole group. And finally on top of all that not having one of the top 5(?) players in the world in your event because you didn't want to reschedule the group devalues the whole tournament, because who ever wins, didn't have to face Rain, or the person who was able to take a series or group win from him. It seems less like KESPA pulling their player, and more like GOM, not making allowances for that player, which is weird considering all the drama that happened a few months ago.


If you had cared enough to look up the statement made by gom, you could see there was no possible way to move the day because of players leaving for MLG and GSTL taking up the other broadcast days during that week.

Why you would think gom would purposely not try to fix the schedule to let him play in their league is very puzzling, they lose and no one wins. ( except kespa, sort of )


I did look at the statement, pushing back the second group stage by 1 day and actually using the 17th and 18th of that month for code A matches would allow the whole tournament to run without a hitch. They had the option. Also nobody from the code A matches are in IEM or WCS that weekend.

Why? I don't think they have any reason, there really isn't a reason to not have a player like Rain. I'm just saying that it is strange that they did in fact have an option, but didn't see it I guess. And how does KESPA win? They certainly want their players to win against ESF players. You seem to be one of those white-knight GOM lovers though, so I forgive you.


You are suggesting using the 12th to play his group? The likely reason that isn't possible is because there would be no time to hold the group selection ceremony, and no time for them to prepare for their ro16 matches if they ended up in the group that plays on the following day.

Like you said, there's no reason to not try to make it work. I'm sure they did try everything possible, they only lose viewers and tournament prestige by having him forfeit.

Kespa wins by having their competitor lose out on having him in their tournament, this is the same Kespa that didn't want their players to play in GSL at all in order to make the OSL the most watched and most prestigious league in Korea. If they wanted their players to win against the ESF players they can have it done in their own tournament with the eyes on them and their sponsors.

Lastly, there's no need to add personal attacks to your arguments if they can support themselves well, I would suggest you refrain from doing that if you want people to enjoy speaking with you.
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
November 09 2012 21:13 GMT
#51195
like the new shows format more, less fluff, actual starcraft discussion happening. Seems really good and fluid. You lose like the incontrol big personality, and playing devils advocate. But qxc kinda fills that role pretty well, albeit not as visibly.

Major was cool addition to the show even if it was on the fly.
Flash Fan!
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
November 09 2012 21:40 GMT
#51196
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 09 2012 22:13 GMT
#51197
On November 10 2012 04:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 23:43 chukolna wrote:
sotg is not what it use to be ;(


Yeah I was confused when I tuned in and heard Starcraft being discussed too

hey hey hey hey. hey. now now. whoa. whoa there.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
November 09 2012 22:15 GMT
#51198
On November 10 2012 04:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 23:43 chukolna wrote:
sotg is not what it use to be ;(


Yeah I was confused when I tuned in and heard Starcraft being discussed too

Oh man. Shots fired.
QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
November 09 2012 22:16 GMT
#51199
Permanent box for Major plz, he loves you!
I bought a pack of cigarettes for $20, What have you done for your country today?
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
November 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#51200
Major is funny as fuck, I hope he becomes a regular. Great episode, best in a long time.
"Right on" - Morrow
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