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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 15 2012 03:41 GMT
#42201
Seems SOTG wasted an opportunity there. They were asking QXC and Tyler about Feast, when they have Stephano there who is a team-mate of Feast and has played against him before. Not asking Stephano to talk about Feast is possibly an oversight.

Also why not ask Stephano about the current European scene in general, considering he is more involved within it than the other guests?

Will be very interesting to see whether Tyler and Stephano meet at the Lone Star. Tyler seemed to be fishing for info about Stephano's weaknesses against Protoss. White-Ra has been getting crushed all week by Stephano, so maybe he could give some tips, or not!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 15 2012 03:43 GMT
#42202
On March 15 2012 12:41 revel8 wrote:
Will be very interesting to see whether Tyler and Stephano meet at the Lone Star. Tyler seemed to be fishing for info about Stephano's weaknesses against Protoss. White-Ra has been getting crushed all week by Stephano, so maybe he could give some tips, or not!

What makes you think that Tyler of all protosses could be a threat to Stephano?
BigKahunaBurger
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia334 Posts
March 15 2012 03:44 GMT
#42203
On March 15 2012 12:40 sHt_ wrote:
LoL succes comes from it's model and the fact that anyone can get good at it without puttting any time in it, which is the total opposite of sc2..

Just put online a free version of starcraft with shit as smartcast ( like auto-blink when 99% shield, auto lift for phoenix, auto strom, auto anything ) and the people playing it will just blow.



The fact that you think LoL pros put not time into their game is astounding. Like...you actually believe that? That they don't play a large amount of games and think about strategy deeply? Sure, there isn't the grind of mechanics, but it isn't an RTSD, its a team-based MOBA, that doesn't mean they put no time into it.

And really? Have you even played DOTA/LoL before? There aren't autocast spells. There are smart scast spells yes, but this is completely different. An auto-storm or auto lift would be awful and wouldn't help at all.
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
March 15 2012 03:46 GMT
#42204
He didn't mention pro players, think he's talking about how easy it is for other gamers to get the hang of lol mechanics.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
March 15 2012 03:48 GMT
#42205
On March 15 2012 12:23 Benjamin80 wrote:
Man that was hillarious. Stephano so honest and its so funny.

I dont agree with him that protoss should get a buff but still funny to hear from a zerg.

And Phoenix with +2 is still shit lol



Imagine if Idra was on the show when Stephano said that lol

He probably would ve had a heart attack.
I've got moves like Jagger
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 15 2012 03:49 GMT
#42206
On March 15 2012 12:43 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 12:41 revel8 wrote:
Will be very interesting to see whether Tyler and Stephano meet at the Lone Star. Tyler seemed to be fishing for info about Stephano's weaknesses against Protoss. White-Ra has been getting crushed all week by Stephano, so maybe he could give some tips, or not!

What makes you think that Tyler of all protosses could be a threat to Stephano?


I would be massively surprised if Stephano lost to Tyler. Tyler must be pretty worried about Stephano given his recent form vs Protoss. He obviously watched the Stephano Showmatch against White-Ra.

I think Tyler's best chance is a strategy incorporating some sort of moisturizer sabotage. LOL
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 15 2012 03:54 GMT
#42207
Maybe asking Stephano to give his explanation for pulling out of ONOG Finals might have been interesting too. That was deemed controversial.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#42208
I'm glad that Orb at least kind of recognizing that because nature of his stream, he was essentially reaping what he had sown.

When you're whole personal stream revolves around telling people off and acting like a dick, you're going to get some hate back, whether its deserved or not, and people are going to be far less forgiving.

Calling someone a dumb nigger is pretty out of bounds in pretty much every working and social environment, and harsh even by gaming standards. It would have been nice if at least one host mentioned that using nigger in a derogatory way (even if the person isn't black) is pretty offensive.

I mean, it would be like calling JP out on his faggotty Jew audio.

I kid, I kid.
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
March 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#42209
Such an amazing episode
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#42210
On March 15 2012 12:11 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 12:04 ImHuko wrote:
I feel like either no one has the balls to confront Orb because of friendships or what, or you guys just don't think.

Day9 got the closest to what I was thinking, but where was the comment that using the N word period, is actually kinda wrong? Then to joke about it at the end of the show? You have to be kidding me. Orb dismissed people who are outraged as just being "HATERS". I don't hate you because you have a good job in E-Sports, I dislike you because you are a racist bigot with no grasp on reality or what is right/wrong. No matter how much you wanted to offend someone, you should never use the N word, its simple.

Since JP brought up Idra. Saying "you're so fucking dumb it works" "nice race" is no where as severe as saying "you take dumb N risks"

Sadly parents in this world don't teach their kids that racism is wrong, and you are a prime example. Your parents let you and society down. You have now started a meme which involves a racial slur, good job bro. Funny thing is, indirectly, you have done exactly what you bitched about on the show. Now a new sponsor will check out the SC2 scene and the first thing that will jump out at them is how freely people are willing to say "dumb N risks". I'd love to associate my company with this community!

There is a reason LoL is growing bigger than SC2. It isn't because of the game, it is because of how LoL wants their community.


Lol you have no clue what you are talking about. IdrA has wished death on people before. That is 1000x worse than the N word. The best way to deal with racism in society is to simply stop talking about it. In modern society racism is pretty much dead outside of extremists. No one considers it a true problem anymore. Also LoL is worse than SC2 when it comes to language.



Ugggghhhh so many things wrong with this statement. But whatever.
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 04:04:17
March 15 2012 04:02 GMT
#42211
On March 15 2012 12:34 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Since LoL's community is a horrendous cesspit in which far worse thing are said on a very, very regular basis, somehow I doubt that's got anything to do with it's success.

I think you missed the obvious part. LoL is F2P. I could make 15 accounts in under 5 minutes, of which I could play a game on all of them and use every racial slur in the book.

For me to do that on SC2, I have to be willing to risk my 60$ copy of SC2.

F2P environment will always be a bit more vulgur and childish, simply because its free to play.

Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 15 2012 04:04 GMT
#42212
On March 15 2012 11:52 Soma Cruz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 11:47 MostDifferent wrote:
uh, no one cares that he rages

its racist remarks.. omg


Except Orb didn't do anything racist. He used the word nigger as a substitute for an insult.

Do you think HuK is racist when he tweeted "hey TB my nigga let me in that moon battles thing?" or whatever he said. Nope. Context. Etc.


Again, for the millionth time, in the context that Orb used the word, the racism is at least implied. As you say yourself, it was intended as an insult, implying that you think black people are inferior.

If he said it was a dumb White guy risk, or a dumb Jew risk, it would pretty insulting to White guys and Jews.
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
March 15 2012 04:05 GMT
#42213
On March 15 2012 13:04 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 11:52 Soma Cruz wrote:
On March 15 2012 11:47 MostDifferent wrote:
uh, no one cares that he rages

its racist remarks.. omg


Except Orb didn't do anything racist. He used the word nigger as a substitute for an insult.

Do you think HuK is racist when he tweeted "hey TB my nigga let me in that moon battles thing?" or whatever he said. Nope. Context. Etc.


Again, for the millionth time, in the context that Orb used the word, the racism is at least implied. As you say yourself, it was intended as an insult, implying that you think black people are inferior.

If he said it was a dumb White guy risk, or a dumb Jew risk, it would pretty insulting to White guys and Jews.

Not to mention he kind of (accidentally) admitted he was using it as a racial slur.
battyone
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
March 15 2012 04:10 GMT
#42214
On March 15 2012 13:02 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 12:34 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Since LoL's community is a horrendous cesspit in which far worse thing are said on a very, very regular basis, somehow I doubt that's got anything to do with it's success.

I think you missed the obvious part. LoL is F2P. I could make 15 accounts in under 5 minutes, of which I could play a game on all of them and use every racial slur in the book.

For me to do that on SC2, I have to be willing to risk my 60$ copy of SC2.

F2P environment will always be a bit more vulgur and childish, simply because its free to play.



So which is it? Is it nicer than this community or is it vulgar and childish? You've said both and made an excuse for the LoL community when trying to tout it as nicer than the starcraft one.

This may blow your mind: it's not the x game or y game community, this shit has been around since DWANGO, since Kali, since my buddy paul called me a fag nigger bitch for scout tower rushing him in warcraft 2 over fricken direct dialup.

Stop with the x community versus y community, this is the gaming community as a whole.
Let's Go Mets!
Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 04:29:28
March 15 2012 04:22 GMT
#42215
On March 15 2012 12:48 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 12:23 Benjamin80 wrote:
Man that was hillarious. Stephano so honest and its so funny.

I dont agree with him that protoss should get a buff but still funny to hear from a zerg.

And Phoenix with +2 is still shit lol



Imagine if Idra was on the show when Stephano said that lol

He probably would ve had a heart attack.


That was a bit messy but he did say that once you start investing on phoenix you can't do anything on ground execpt making zealot (I suppose he ment that the investment to comit to phoenix was enormous), which are shitty against Z. Or something like that.
To bad Artosis wasnt there (

He didnt really said a buff, more like he feels that Protoss dont have the unit base that permits them a sufisient variety of playstyles.
A French living under the sun
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
March 15 2012 04:26 GMT
#42216
Offended people everywhere.
Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
March 15 2012 04:29 GMT
#42217
On March 15 2012 12:41 revel8 wrote:
Seems SOTG wasted an opportunity there. They were asking QXC and Tyler about Feast, when they have Stephano there who is a team-mate of Feast and has played against him before. Not asking Stephano to talk about Feast is possibly an oversight.

Also why not ask Stephano about the current European scene in general, considering he is more involved within it than the other guests?

Will be very interesting to see whether Tyler and Stephano meet at the Lone Star. Tyler seemed to be fishing for info about Stephano's weaknesses against Protoss. White-Ra has been getting crushed all week by Stephano, so maybe he could give some tips, or not!


I think Millenium is still viewed as some small autarcic french team, and everyone forgets that they actually have some awesome players ...
Slasher said earlier in Lo3 that Feast should look for a bigger team. I mean... Srsly?
A French living under the sun
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 15 2012 04:29 GMT
#42218
Stephano is so naturally gifted you could tell that Tyler, Day9, QXC were getting a little bummed by his non-chalance.

His advice might as well been, "Make stuff that makes sense when you need to. Then win!"

Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
March 15 2012 04:31 GMT
#42219
Like said a bit earlier; the Z race permits that.
And if you watch his stream, you can see that he's always trying aloooooooooot of things.
When he started playing he was always doing some funky stuff, a bit like Grubby when he switched to SC2.
A French living under the sun
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 15 2012 04:34 GMT
#42220
On March 15 2012 13:29 Defacer wrote:
Stephano is so naturally gifted you could tell that Tyler, Day9, QXC were getting a little bummed by his non-chalance.

His advice might as well been, "Make stuff that makes sense when you need to. Then win!"


Yeah it was funny how Day9 kept trying to analyze how stephano played and he basically said he builds some shit and wins, and also how he never looks at his replays either.
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