• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:56
CEST 05:56
KST 12:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!34Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Browser Invoker Combo Trainer & Speedrun Simulator Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7321 users

Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 2111

Forum Index > SC2 General
54608 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2109 2110 2111 2112 2113 2731 Next
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 15 2012 03:41 GMT
#42201
Seems SOTG wasted an opportunity there. They were asking QXC and Tyler about Feast, when they have Stephano there who is a team-mate of Feast and has played against him before. Not asking Stephano to talk about Feast is possibly an oversight.

Also why not ask Stephano about the current European scene in general, considering he is more involved within it than the other guests?

Will be very interesting to see whether Tyler and Stephano meet at the Lone Star. Tyler seemed to be fishing for info about Stephano's weaknesses against Protoss. White-Ra has been getting crushed all week by Stephano, so maybe he could give some tips, or not!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 15 2012 03:43 GMT
#42202
On March 15 2012 12:41 revel8 wrote:
Will be very interesting to see whether Tyler and Stephano meet at the Lone Star. Tyler seemed to be fishing for info about Stephano's weaknesses against Protoss. White-Ra has been getting crushed all week by Stephano, so maybe he could give some tips, or not!

What makes you think that Tyler of all protosses could be a threat to Stephano?
BigKahunaBurger
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia334 Posts
March 15 2012 03:44 GMT
#42203
On March 15 2012 12:40 sHt_ wrote:
LoL succes comes from it's model and the fact that anyone can get good at it without puttting any time in it, which is the total opposite of sc2..

Just put online a free version of starcraft with shit as smartcast ( like auto-blink when 99% shield, auto lift for phoenix, auto strom, auto anything ) and the people playing it will just blow.



The fact that you think LoL pros put not time into their game is astounding. Like...you actually believe that? That they don't play a large amount of games and think about strategy deeply? Sure, there isn't the grind of mechanics, but it isn't an RTSD, its a team-based MOBA, that doesn't mean they put no time into it.

And really? Have you even played DOTA/LoL before? There aren't autocast spells. There are smart scast spells yes, but this is completely different. An auto-storm or auto lift would be awful and wouldn't help at all.
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
March 15 2012 03:46 GMT
#42204
He didn't mention pro players, think he's talking about how easy it is for other gamers to get the hang of lol mechanics.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
March 15 2012 03:48 GMT
#42205
On March 15 2012 12:23 Benjamin80 wrote:
Man that was hillarious. Stephano so honest and its so funny.

I dont agree with him that protoss should get a buff but still funny to hear from a zerg.

And Phoenix with +2 is still shit lol



Imagine if Idra was on the show when Stephano said that lol

He probably would ve had a heart attack.
I've got moves like Jagger
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 15 2012 03:49 GMT
#42206
On March 15 2012 12:43 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 12:41 revel8 wrote:
Will be very interesting to see whether Tyler and Stephano meet at the Lone Star. Tyler seemed to be fishing for info about Stephano's weaknesses against Protoss. White-Ra has been getting crushed all week by Stephano, so maybe he could give some tips, or not!

What makes you think that Tyler of all protosses could be a threat to Stephano?


I would be massively surprised if Stephano lost to Tyler. Tyler must be pretty worried about Stephano given his recent form vs Protoss. He obviously watched the Stephano Showmatch against White-Ra.

I think Tyler's best chance is a strategy incorporating some sort of moisturizer sabotage. LOL
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 15 2012 03:54 GMT
#42207
Maybe asking Stephano to give his explanation for pulling out of ONOG Finals might have been interesting too. That was deemed controversial.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#42208
I'm glad that Orb at least kind of recognizing that because nature of his stream, he was essentially reaping what he had sown.

When you're whole personal stream revolves around telling people off and acting like a dick, you're going to get some hate back, whether its deserved or not, and people are going to be far less forgiving.

Calling someone a dumb nigger is pretty out of bounds in pretty much every working and social environment, and harsh even by gaming standards. It would have been nice if at least one host mentioned that using nigger in a derogatory way (even if the person isn't black) is pretty offensive.

I mean, it would be like calling JP out on his faggotty Jew audio.

I kid, I kid.
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
March 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#42209
Such an amazing episode
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#42210
On March 15 2012 12:11 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 12:04 ImHuko wrote:
I feel like either no one has the balls to confront Orb because of friendships or what, or you guys just don't think.

Day9 got the closest to what I was thinking, but where was the comment that using the N word period, is actually kinda wrong? Then to joke about it at the end of the show? You have to be kidding me. Orb dismissed people who are outraged as just being "HATERS". I don't hate you because you have a good job in E-Sports, I dislike you because you are a racist bigot with no grasp on reality or what is right/wrong. No matter how much you wanted to offend someone, you should never use the N word, its simple.

Since JP brought up Idra. Saying "you're so fucking dumb it works" "nice race" is no where as severe as saying "you take dumb N risks"

Sadly parents in this world don't teach their kids that racism is wrong, and you are a prime example. Your parents let you and society down. You have now started a meme which involves a racial slur, good job bro. Funny thing is, indirectly, you have done exactly what you bitched about on the show. Now a new sponsor will check out the SC2 scene and the first thing that will jump out at them is how freely people are willing to say "dumb N risks". I'd love to associate my company with this community!

There is a reason LoL is growing bigger than SC2. It isn't because of the game, it is because of how LoL wants their community.


Lol you have no clue what you are talking about. IdrA has wished death on people before. That is 1000x worse than the N word. The best way to deal with racism in society is to simply stop talking about it. In modern society racism is pretty much dead outside of extremists. No one considers it a true problem anymore. Also LoL is worse than SC2 when it comes to language.



Ugggghhhh so many things wrong with this statement. But whatever.
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 04:04:17
March 15 2012 04:02 GMT
#42211
On March 15 2012 12:34 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Since LoL's community is a horrendous cesspit in which far worse thing are said on a very, very regular basis, somehow I doubt that's got anything to do with it's success.

I think you missed the obvious part. LoL is F2P. I could make 15 accounts in under 5 minutes, of which I could play a game on all of them and use every racial slur in the book.

For me to do that on SC2, I have to be willing to risk my 60$ copy of SC2.

F2P environment will always be a bit more vulgur and childish, simply because its free to play.

Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 15 2012 04:04 GMT
#42212
On March 15 2012 11:52 Soma Cruz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 11:47 MostDifferent wrote:
uh, no one cares that he rages

its racist remarks.. omg


Except Orb didn't do anything racist. He used the word nigger as a substitute for an insult.

Do you think HuK is racist when he tweeted "hey TB my nigga let me in that moon battles thing?" or whatever he said. Nope. Context. Etc.


Again, for the millionth time, in the context that Orb used the word, the racism is at least implied. As you say yourself, it was intended as an insult, implying that you think black people are inferior.

If he said it was a dumb White guy risk, or a dumb Jew risk, it would pretty insulting to White guys and Jews.
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
March 15 2012 04:05 GMT
#42213
On March 15 2012 13:04 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 11:52 Soma Cruz wrote:
On March 15 2012 11:47 MostDifferent wrote:
uh, no one cares that he rages

its racist remarks.. omg


Except Orb didn't do anything racist. He used the word nigger as a substitute for an insult.

Do you think HuK is racist when he tweeted "hey TB my nigga let me in that moon battles thing?" or whatever he said. Nope. Context. Etc.


Again, for the millionth time, in the context that Orb used the word, the racism is at least implied. As you say yourself, it was intended as an insult, implying that you think black people are inferior.

If he said it was a dumb White guy risk, or a dumb Jew risk, it would pretty insulting to White guys and Jews.

Not to mention he kind of (accidentally) admitted he was using it as a racial slur.
battyone
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
March 15 2012 04:10 GMT
#42214
On March 15 2012 13:02 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 12:34 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Since LoL's community is a horrendous cesspit in which far worse thing are said on a very, very regular basis, somehow I doubt that's got anything to do with it's success.

I think you missed the obvious part. LoL is F2P. I could make 15 accounts in under 5 minutes, of which I could play a game on all of them and use every racial slur in the book.

For me to do that on SC2, I have to be willing to risk my 60$ copy of SC2.

F2P environment will always be a bit more vulgur and childish, simply because its free to play.



So which is it? Is it nicer than this community or is it vulgar and childish? You've said both and made an excuse for the LoL community when trying to tout it as nicer than the starcraft one.

This may blow your mind: it's not the x game or y game community, this shit has been around since DWANGO, since Kali, since my buddy paul called me a fag nigger bitch for scout tower rushing him in warcraft 2 over fricken direct dialup.

Stop with the x community versus y community, this is the gaming community as a whole.
Let's Go Mets!
Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 04:29:28
March 15 2012 04:22 GMT
#42215
On March 15 2012 12:48 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 12:23 Benjamin80 wrote:
Man that was hillarious. Stephano so honest and its so funny.

I dont agree with him that protoss should get a buff but still funny to hear from a zerg.

And Phoenix with +2 is still shit lol



Imagine if Idra was on the show when Stephano said that lol

He probably would ve had a heart attack.


That was a bit messy but he did say that once you start investing on phoenix you can't do anything on ground execpt making zealot (I suppose he ment that the investment to comit to phoenix was enormous), which are shitty against Z. Or something like that.
To bad Artosis wasnt there (

He didnt really said a buff, more like he feels that Protoss dont have the unit base that permits them a sufisient variety of playstyles.
A French living under the sun
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
March 15 2012 04:26 GMT
#42216
Offended people everywhere.
Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
March 15 2012 04:29 GMT
#42217
On March 15 2012 12:41 revel8 wrote:
Seems SOTG wasted an opportunity there. They were asking QXC and Tyler about Feast, when they have Stephano there who is a team-mate of Feast and has played against him before. Not asking Stephano to talk about Feast is possibly an oversight.

Also why not ask Stephano about the current European scene in general, considering he is more involved within it than the other guests?

Will be very interesting to see whether Tyler and Stephano meet at the Lone Star. Tyler seemed to be fishing for info about Stephano's weaknesses against Protoss. White-Ra has been getting crushed all week by Stephano, so maybe he could give some tips, or not!


I think Millenium is still viewed as some small autarcic french team, and everyone forgets that they actually have some awesome players ...
Slasher said earlier in Lo3 that Feast should look for a bigger team. I mean... Srsly?
A French living under the sun
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 15 2012 04:29 GMT
#42218
Stephano is so naturally gifted you could tell that Tyler, Day9, QXC were getting a little bummed by his non-chalance.

His advice might as well been, "Make stuff that makes sense when you need to. Then win!"

Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
March 15 2012 04:31 GMT
#42219
Like said a bit earlier; the Z race permits that.
And if you watch his stream, you can see that he's always trying aloooooooooot of things.
When he started playing he was always doing some funky stuff, a bit like Grubby when he switched to SC2.
A French living under the sun
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 15 2012 04:34 GMT
#42220
On March 15 2012 13:29 Defacer wrote:
Stephano is so naturally gifted you could tell that Tyler, Day9, QXC were getting a little bummed by his non-chalance.

His advice might as well been, "Make stuff that makes sense when you need to. Then win!"


Yeah it was funny how Day9 kept trying to analyze how stephano played and he basically said he builds some shit and wins, and also how he never looks at his replays either.
Prev 1 2109 2110 2111 2112 2113 2731 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
summit1g6265
WinterStarcraft516
RuFF_SC2 248
NeuroSwarm 152
ProTech29
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 27551
GuemChi 2168
Sharp 234
Bale 71
Noble 25
League of Legends
JimRising 733
Counter-Strike
taco 598
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor111
Other Games
PiGStarcraft261
Livibee136
Maynarde112
Mew2King39
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 83
• Light_VIP 16
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22251
League of Legends
• Lourlo964
• Rush308
Other Games
• Scarra1158
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 4m
Afreeca Starleague
6h 4m
Monday Night Weeklies
12h 4m
GSL
1d 7h
OSC
1d 9h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 20h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.