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On March 15 2012 11:31 VUGDWELLER wrote:
What a bizarre discussion. A huge part of the issue with Orb's shit was that it was racist language, not that it was generic ladder rage. No one actually cares about people cursing and getting frustrated when they're competing. Alex Garfield's excellent statement thread made it really clear that this is about addressing endemic racism in e-sports, and to have a whole segment about the firing without mentioning this once seems kind of weak.
The language used was superficial to the real underlying problems that this exposed. We all know orb said nigger at least a year ago and allegedly 2 weeks ago, we know that he was raging/bming at the time. Why rehash that. I find it refreshing to discuss the impact of this event, how it unfolded, and what it means for the community at large if reddit getting a bug up its ass (or TL, or the blizzard forums [had to include the last one to be fair]) and goes on a witch hunt. I hope they tie into the katu situation but that's probably untouchable anyway. :/
They're discussing solutions to the problems exposed, the orb situation itself is way dead and gone.
*EDIT -- quick clarifier, if you expected them to discuss orbs conduct then yes the conversation is weird, but I did not expect it, that's been done to death. They're looking at a bigger, and somewaht scarier picture.
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On March 15 2012 11:33 SovSov wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:27 EndOfTime88 wrote:
I'm not being racist, but I saw someone ask in chat if Stephano was black. Is he? I always assumed he was mixed. Can you explain how that would ever be racist in any way, shape or form? Am I discriminating against you if I ask what country you're from?
Better safe than sorry. Nobody ever broke a stick by treading lightly.
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Can't believe they scheduled the show around Artosis and he didn't even show up :\
Plus why is Geoff playing hookie?
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Poor JP. He was so upset; you could see it in his face.
Don't worry JP. You do a good job man.
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On March 15 2012 11:33 SovSov wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:27 EndOfTime88 wrote:
I'm not being racist, but I saw someone ask in chat if Stephano was black. Is he? I always assumed he was mixed. Can you explain how that would ever be racist in any way, shape or form? Am I discriminating against you if I ask what country you're from?
I was temp banned for asking in the SOTG stream chat.
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On March 15 2012 11:27 EndOfTime88 wrote:
I'm not being racist, but I saw someone ask in chat if Stephano was black. Is he? I always assumed he was mixed.
What is mixed? I mean... who isn't?
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Day9 telling like it is
(paraphrased "If you're raging and angry, you don't have to use racial slurs, you can just say 'I hate you' and you'll feel about the same"
What is mixed? I mean... who isn't?
"mixed" in this context would mean biracial which generally is assumed to mean half black/half white, like Mariah Carey of Barack Obama
Everyone is "mixed" to a certain degree but it's sort of one of those words that has a second hinty meaning
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On March 15 2012 11:36 EndOfTime88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:33 SovSov wrote:On March 15 2012 11:27 EndOfTime88 wrote:
I'm not being racist, but I saw someone ask in chat if Stephano was black. Is he? I always assumed he was mixed. Can you explain how that would ever be racist in any way, shape or form? Am I discriminating against you if I ask what country you're from? I was temp banned for asking in the SOTG stream chat.
That's probably because the chat is full of retards all the time so I guess they might have thought you are just an asshole idk.
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On March 15 2012 11:37 danl9rm wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:27 EndOfTime88 wrote:
I'm not being racist, but I saw someone ask in chat if Stephano was black. Is he? I always assumed he was mixed. What is mixed? I mean... who isn't?
Im not, at least not 4 generations past ive been able to track. Just to answer the question.
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The "community" didn't contact sponsors.
Most likely, 1-2 very very ignorant people actually called sponors. The rest just replied with their thoughts in a thread CREATED ON teamliquid..
Stop generalizing the "community" with these idiots. If you are talking about the comments in the orb thread, then blame the mods for not closing the original thread.. because OBVIOUSLY people are going to comment in a thread that is left open.
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Wait what did i miss? what did orb do!?!
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On March 15 2012 11:38 corpuscle wrote:Day9 telling like it is (paraphrased "If you're raging and angry, you don't have to use racial slurs, you can just say 'I hate you' and you'll feel about the same"
Yeah, even if you're incredibly pissed, just be like me and rage at teammates on skype!
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On March 15 2012 11:43 AegiS_ wrote:
The "community" didn't contact sponsors.
Most likely, 1-2 very very ignorant people actually called sponors. The rest just replied with their thoughts in a thread CREATED ON teamliquid..
Stop generalizing the "community" with these idiots. If you are talking about the comments in the orb thread, then blame the mods for not closing the original thread.. because OBVIOUSLY people are going to comment in a thread that is left open.
It takes more then 1-2 people for sponsors to want to take action trust me lol.
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uh, no one cares that he rages
its racist remarks.. omg
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On March 15 2012 11:45 Odal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:38 corpuscle wrote:Day9 telling like it is (paraphrased "If you're raging and angry, you don't have to use racial slurs, you can just say 'I hate you' and you'll feel about the same" Yeah, even if you're incredibly pissed, just be like me and rage at teammates on skype!
I personally think it's more fun to be BM by coming up with witty insults for my opponent that are tailored to whatever stupid bullshit they did
by the time I come up with something clever and biting that just hits exactly what lucky bullshit they pulled, I don't really care anymore and I'm mostly just proud of myself for finding the perfect insult for someone that proxies a DT shrine 20 minutes into the game
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On March 15 2012 11:34 Chriscras wrote:
Can't believe they scheduled the show around Artosis and he didn't even show up :\
Plus why is Geoff playing hookie?
Incontrol is casting NASL, Artosis has a baby and a baby-momma
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On March 15 2012 11:45 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:43 AegiS_ wrote:
The "community" didn't contact sponsors.
Most likely, 1-2 very very ignorant people actually called sponors. The rest just replied with their thoughts in a thread CREATED ON teamliquid..
Stop generalizing the "community" with these idiots. If you are talking about the comments in the orb thread, then blame the mods for not closing the original thread.. because OBVIOUSLY people are going to comment in a thread that is left open. It takes more then 1-2 people for sponsors to want to take action trust me lol.
you get my point (that the portion of the community that over reacted and called sponsors does not represent AT ALL the starcraft 2 community).. but all it takes is a few people to bring the "issue" to the sponsors attention
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On March 15 2012 11:47 MostDifferent wrote:
uh, no one cares that he rages
its racist remarks.. omg
Also he's been pretty much a huge dick outside of the game as well, just read his old reddit posts if he hasn't deleted them, lol. There are a lot of reasons for people to be "haters" of him and want to get his ass fired.
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orb is giving a lesson in effective apologies and crisis management right now. respect
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On March 15 2012 11:48 AegiS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:45 blade55555 wrote:On March 15 2012 11:43 AegiS_ wrote:
The "community" didn't contact sponsors.
Most likely, 1-2 very very ignorant people actually called sponors. The rest just replied with their thoughts in a thread CREATED ON teamliquid..
Stop generalizing the "community" with these idiots. If you are talking about the comments in the orb thread, then blame the mods for not closing the original thread.. because OBVIOUSLY people are going to comment in a thread that is left open. It takes more then 1-2 people for sponsors to want to take action trust me lol. you get my point (that the portion of the community that over reacted and called sponsors does not represent AT ALL the starcraft 2 community).. but all it takes is a few people to bring the "issue" to the sponsors attention
actually the problem is that that annoying entitled vocal minority fucking things up for everyone else...is the community also.
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