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slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
November 11 2011 05:26 GMT
#35561
On November 11 2011 14:23 Dark.Carnival wrote:
why'd i get singled out


Bad luck maybe?
blah blah blah...
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
November 11 2011 05:26 GMT
#35562
On November 11 2011 14:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
MMA gets to play like 8 series less than MVP and MVP is the favorite to win the whole thing. Right ...

Yep, the top favourite should be MMA considering his seed.
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
November 11 2011 05:27 GMT
#35563
On November 11 2011 14:20 iky43210 wrote:
Haha, Artosis just can't accept the fact that mvp is the better player

Stop making these kind of statement and prediction. Has Artosis ever came out right on any of his prediction? Like MKP or clide winning GSL?


Artosis has an incredible record for picking tournaments. He picks nearly ever MLG and foreigner tournament, and usually has gotten the GSL right.
My wife for hire! - Zealot
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 05:27:39
November 11 2011 05:27 GMT
#35564
I'm now extremely interested to watch Live-on-Three when is it Tommorow? (to talk about PPSL)
Never GG MKP | IdrA
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 11 2011 05:27 GMT
#35565
On November 11 2011 14:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 14:20 The KY wrote:
So IdrA is still blowing that 'zerg is broken and unwinnable' horn, huh?

You have to admire his tenacity.


No, he is blowing the "terran doesn't lose to random shit" horn.

It has been proven quite true over the last year.


'He SHOULD have won, but he plays zerg.' - Idra, 5 minutes or so ago, referencing a game in which Nestea didn't lose to random shit but instead pissed away a huge lead.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
November 11 2011 05:28 GMT
#35566
On November 11 2011 14:27 XRaDiiX wrote:
I'm now extremely interested to watch Live-on-Three when is it Tommorow? (to talk about PPSL)


It was today, check out the vod on onemoregame.tv's stream:

http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 05:29:49
November 11 2011 05:29 GMT
#35567
thing is, mvp is actually the best broodwar player to switch, where as nestea is?????????????? 2v2?????failed solo career?, i mean we could say all we want about race op or underpowered, it still doesnt change the fact that mvp proved his skill elsewhere where as nestea hasnt.
Pilcus
Profile Joined January 2011
United States14 Posts
November 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#35568
Why do they bother talking about things they know nothing about. They can't even come up with the name of the ASUS ROG tournament...
probablywrong
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Philippines209 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 05:52:34
November 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#35569
On November 11 2011 14:25 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 14:24 probablywrong wrote:
They're not speaking on the PPSL because they really don't know much about it, and they want an AZK member to speak on it.

There are people from the community reaching out trying to clarify things, but JP wants someone from AZK to clarify. It sucks that they really didn't read on it because "there was too much stuff" but I guess they just didn't want to get anything wrong. I wish they went into it, and at least asked for details from those who were reaching out but they have no obligations to listen to us whatsoever and this is totally understandable.


Well, but to be honest they should probably not bring that up if they didn't really want to talk much about that without someone from AZK.




The details community members know are directly from AZK members. I do think it's the right call they didn't bring anyone on who wasn't AZK, but I wish JP asked for some details so he could have spoken on it for a bit.

Eh, there are a lot of things going on anyway. They have a lot of things to talk about.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
November 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#35570
On November 11 2011 14:29 jinixxx123 wrote:
thing is, mvp is actually the best broodwar player to switch, where as nestea is?????????????? 2v2?????failed solo career?, i mean we could say all we want about race op or underpowered, it still doesnt change the fact that mvp proved his skill elsewhere where as nestea hasnt.


MVP has proven to be the better player many many times. Too bad he play T and people think he wins because of his race.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
November 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#35571
On November 11 2011 14:23 Dark.Carnival wrote:
why'd i get singled out


Karma?
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zzdd
Profile Joined December 2010
United States484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 05:33:59
November 11 2011 05:33 GMT
#35572
On November 11 2011 14:29 jinixxx123 wrote:
thing is, mvp is actually the best broodwar player to switch, where as nestea is?????????????? 2v2?????failed solo career?, i mean we could say all we want about race op or underpowered, it still doesnt change the fact that mvp proved his skill elsewhere where as nestea hasnt.

As I recall some people saying, Nestea was good but then had to go to the army. After being behind in the game for a year (or however long army service is) he couldn't adapt fast enough and was put on the 2v2 team.

Not saying Nestea was the best player in BW but that he had potential.
crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
November 11 2011 05:33 GMT
#35573
On November 11 2011 14:29 jinixxx123 wrote:
thing is, mvp is actually the best broodwar player to switch, where as nestea is?????????????? 2v2?????failed solo career?, i mean we could say all we want about race op or underpowered, it still doesnt change the fact that mvp proved his skill elsewhere where as nestea hasnt.

Yeah, winning 3 GSLs doesn't count as "skill."

Do you listen to yourself talk? Is there a misunderstanding here because I don't understand Bronze League?
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 11 2011 05:34 GMT
#35574
Might actually get that Naniwa vs Nestea rematch in the global invitational at MLG :D. I have a feeling Naniwa will upset MVP.
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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
November 11 2011 05:36 GMT
#35575
On November 11 2011 14:27 HystericaLaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 14:20 iky43210 wrote:
Haha, Artosis just can't accept the fact that mvp is the better player

Stop making these kind of statement and prediction. Has Artosis ever came out right on any of his prediction? Like MKP or clide winning GSL?


Artosis has an incredible record for picking tournaments. He picks nearly ever MLG and foreigner tournament, and usually has gotten the GSL right.


It wasn't that difficult to predict MLG. The only one that was truly an upset was MLG Orlando.

Then again every time I hear Artosis prediction he ends up getting it wrong, maybe I just wasn't there when he actually makes the right one

IWork4Skynet
Profile Joined November 2010
Bolivia56 Posts
November 11 2011 05:38 GMT
#35576
That's such a good analysis for PvP.
Wish they did that for other races
Long live rock n' roll
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 11 2011 05:39 GMT
#35577
They should talk about Hiya's streaming, even though it's about BW. :D Because it's flipping epic to have a Top 20 Kespa Rank player streaming.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Jlei
Profile Joined November 2011
97 Posts
November 11 2011 05:39 GMT
#35578
On November 11 2011 14:27 HystericaLaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 14:20 iky43210 wrote:
Haha, Artosis just can't accept the fact that mvp is the better player

Stop making these kind of statement and prediction. Has Artosis ever came out right on any of his prediction? Like MKP or clide winning GSL?


Artosis has an incredible record for picking tournaments. He picks nearly ever MLG and foreigner tournament, and usually has gotten the GSL right.


Because he picks the best player. I'm surprised fewer people said MMA. He should be the clear favorite. He's seeded in the top 4 and has beaten MVP and Nestea in GSL if they get to him.

Of course Artosis is such a mech biased player and is butthurt from being so wrong for the GSL finals that he will refuse to acknowledge MMA's skill in TvT. Bio + Tank is perfectly fine against Mech for most of the game.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 05:47:59
November 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#35579
On November 11 2011 14:29 jinixxx123 wrote:
thing is, mvp is actually the best broodwar player to switch, where as nestea is?????????????? 2v2?????failed solo career?, i mean we could say all we want about race op or underpowered, it still doesnt change the fact that mvp proved his skill elsewhere where as nestea hasnt.


Well, isnt forGG a better BW player since he actually won a starleague? And of course, Boxer, Nada and July were all powerhouses during their time and arguably could be considered better.

About the picks for MLG:
MVP and Nestea are very good players, but they actually do not have a good chance to win it all because of the number of matches they must win just to make it to the championship bracket. Nestea is great in the GSL, where he has 1 opponent to prepare for each week in advance (3 for groups). At MLG, he will be playing 7+ different opponents per day, in a stacked open bracket. Nestea is a great preparation player, but it remains to be seen if his performance will stay consistent under the magnitude of matches that he must play.

The same case can be said for MVP, except that MVP has played in MLGs, but was in pool play and could prepare ahead of time for his opponents as well. In addition, his carpal tunnel syndrome is definitely a concern, but how much it affects him when he has to play so many matches remains to be seen. The last time MVP was forced to play so many matches was at Blizzcon, and he ended up exhausted and was convincingly defeated by MMA in the GSL finals. Will the same happen at MLG? This all remains to be seen.

In fact, from looking at the number of matches and seeding position, one could argue that Huk and Idra have better chances to win than Nestea and MVP. I understand such a statement is blasphmeous, but seeding advantage is just too great.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 11 2011 05:42 GMT
#35580
When was the last time a foreign T won anything big? ThorZain in TSL3? Has it ever happened with Korean participants?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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