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On November 11 2011 14:05 tsuxiit wrote:
JP definitely didn't actually research or plan how to talk about what was going on with the PPSL. Kind of annoying.
I definitely agree with this. Many times in the show JP does nothing but "lob" topics at the guests and hope they can run with it. This time it fell through on him because no one else had time to read up on it. As host I would definitely hope he would have had some direction planned.
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On November 11 2011 14:06 coolcor wrote:
Why are they talking about how awesome gunrun is when he is the one who created the stole 12000 dollar scandle that they did not care about or believe?
"I'm here with the Amanda (travel desk for AZK) and Clive (assistent manager for AZK), in the hotel right now.
Clive was asked to sign for the hotels, Amanda was the travel agent who issued the tickets for most of the talent and players.
Amanda post paid for the tickets with the agency, if Gus doens't pay her the agency can run after her and put her in jail.
Clive's hotel debt is 37,000 Pesos ($900~) & Amanda's agency debt is 516,000 Pesos. ($12,000~)
Gus is not appearing nor answering.
Clive is stuck here in the hotel till we get this solved today."
Gun paid for the 900 and Amanda still owes 12000
exactly, how do we know that this isn't just an attempt to make the community feel sorry for them so we will donate them money?
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On November 11 2011 14:07 Anima4 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2011 14:06 coolcor wrote:
Why are they talking about how awesome gunrun is when he is the one who created the stole 12000 dollar scandle that they did not care about or believe?
"I'm here with the Amanda (travel desk for AZK) and Clive (assistent manager for AZK), in the hotel right now.
Clive was asked to sign for the hotels, Amanda was the travel agent who issued the tickets for most of the talent and players.
Amanda post paid for the tickets with the agency, if Gus doens't pay her the agency can run after her and put her in jail.
Clive's hotel debt is 37,000 Pesos ($900~) & Amanda's agency debt is 516,000 Pesos. ($12,000~)
Gus is not appearing nor answering.
Clive is stuck here in the hotel till we get this solved today."
Gun paid for the 900 and Amanda still owes 12000 exactly, how do we know that this isn't just an attempt to make the community feel sorry for them so we will donate them money?
Well, the text in quotations is written by GunRun.. As the guys on SotG just said, he's a pretty decent and trustable guy
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I think they know more about what happened then what were being lead to believe.
It's just a sensitive issue i guess they're not obliged to talk about it were all just licking our lips at some crazy outburst though. loll
Wheres iNcontroL; he might have something to say about it.
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well.... hopefully djwheat and live on three discuss this seriously, considering their tagline is 'esports without the fluff'
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Artist has lived in Korea all his life, he just recently moved into the Reign house in America with another player, with more to come to the house, so he can definitely be considered a Korean.
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On November 11 2011 14:10 GTR wrote:
well.... hopefully djwheat and live on three discuss this seriously, considering their tagline is 'esports without the fluff'
They did a pretty good job. Slasher even tried to get gus on there so that they can grill him. The vod is worth checking out because they go over what happened and what is known thus far.
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On November 11 2011 14:10 GTR wrote:
well.... hopefully djwheat and live on three discuss this seriously, considering their tagline is 'esports without the fluff'
they did
they just really didn't know much abou tit either
idk
I don't really mind if they don't talk about it much but they downplayed it really really hard.
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I at least wish that the host of the fucking show would at least do a basic level of research on the topics of his discussion. If he's sure that one of the other members has some insight on the topics that he wants to touch upon, fine, they can use that knowledge as a starting point and go from there. If the host isn't 100% sure that someone knows something about a possible talking point, an important event, then he needs to do at least a basic level of research, or have someone do this research, and relay it to him, so that opinions aren't formed on wholly incomplete data. If he doesn't want to do this, or can't, then drop that talking point. A host that fails to follow any of these courses of action is a bad host. It's as simple as that.
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On November 11 2011 14:11 Toppp wrote:
Artist has lived in Korea all his life, he just recently moved into the Reign house in America with another player, with more to come to the house, so he can definitely be considered a Korean.
Well artosis didnt know that Fin was ForGG and that Sen's proxy hatch was against Naniwa not MCs, so i dont think hes too interested in these small details.
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The reason there is so much "sensationalism" is because multiple firsthand accounts have come out from Gunrun, AZK members, Yoon, and many more parties involved in the fuzzball that all simultaneously reflect poorly on Gus' management.
This isn't papparazzi or "TMZ" shit. It's a verifiable fact that Gus received money from S2 games for a HON tournament that never took place.
So is it too "TMZ" to ask ...Where's the money!? It's an important question, not sensationalism.
People were being held at a hotel because their bills weren't paid. One was threatened with jail time. Gunrun didn't post this shit from another continent away, relaying hearsay. He was at the hotel as it happened.
Yes there's a lot of information on the issue. But to throw up your arms and say "It's hard to follow, must just be sensationalism." is a pretty terrible conclusion. Of course there are tons of people posting unconstructive namecalling and ad-hominems against Gus, but beneath that are legitimate concerns backed up by firsthand accounts from people directly involved.
The accounts and accusations are itemized in several places on Teamliquid and Reddit. Just run through the firsthand accounts. It's not like you're being tasked with writing a doctorate thesis.
It's a subject on a talk show, do the required reading.
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careful suspicious bear if you speak like that too much you'll get nuked; we understand it's a an issue they might not have read up about it yet.
But their not exactly obliged to have an opinion on it.
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What did Idra say about some people don't deserve something? JP and Artosis cracked up after that comment.
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On November 11 2011 14:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
when is mlg providence?
Nov 18
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On November 11 2011 14:12 Angelbelow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2011 14:11 Toppp wrote:
Artist has lived in Korea all his life, he just recently moved into the Reign house in America with another player, with more to come to the house, so he can definitely be considered a Korean. Well artosis didnt know that Fin was ForGG and that Sen's proxy hatch was against Naniwa not MCs, so i dont think hes too interested in these small details.
You would think he'd keep track of these things since it's kind of his job to be "in the know" as a caster. At least that Fin = ForGG, man. =/
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Where is this top16 topic?
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lmao Artosis and his Nestea xD
shit's hilarious
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Artosis still in denial rofl.
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Hahaha oh man this is good. Artosis and IdrA going at it. I'm surprised no one mentioned Nestea's most recent ZvZ + Show Spoiler +
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