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Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
October 27 2011 14:34 GMT
#34641
JP, I don't get why you don't upload the VoD to MLG's YouTube channel?
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
October 27 2011 14:36 GMT
#34642
On October 27 2011 21:26 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 21:00 Kira__ wrote:
On October 27 2011 18:13 ondik wrote:
On October 27 2011 14:24 HughJorgen wrote:
Are you all mad that it takes months before they air the new episode of Futurama they just recorded?

What kind of stupid argument is that, seriously?

I think it would help A LOT if JP told us whether to expect it one day, two days or three days later. Anyway, with each day later it loses a lot viewership.


They're not losing viewership because the vod is a day or two after the episode was aired. Don't kid yourself.


Of course they're, that's not even a question. Only thing you can argue about is how much viewership they're losing. Just to be clear, I'm talking about Europeans watching vods who can't catch the episodes live (99 %). For me it's like this:

Vod released day after SOTG: 90 % probability of me watching.
Vod released 2 days after SOTG: 80 % probability of me watching.
Vod released 4 days after SOTG: 50 % probability of me watching.
Vod released after next SOTG: 5 % probability of me watching.

I think reasons for this are pretty obvious and were already mentioned in this thread.



stop making up random numbers. the validity of those numbers is just as valid as your argument
I like..
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
October 27 2011 14:37 GMT
#34643
On October 27 2011 23:21 MasterKush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 23:10 SimDawg wrote:
How can JP be better than an entire technical team at MLG? Go back to letting him deal with it, so we can go back to loving JP instead of hating MLG.


It's not a case of him being "better than the MLG team". When he used to run the show off of Blip.tv they have an internal feature (similar to what Twitch.tv does) whereby any live streams are automatically encoded and uploaded onto their servers.

The difference between that and the MLG system I would guess, is that JP hands over a raw output file from the stream (probably ridiculously big in file size given how long the show runs for and it's in HD) which is then encoded into a suitable format for their web player. There's probably also a certain degree of actual editing/post-production they do to improve it further. Then finally they have to upload it onto the MLG servers which is when we get to see it.

This is just how I would imagine the process is, having worked doing basic video editing/production before (though nowhere near the level of what MLG produces).


But the thing is, both the ridiculous raw size and post-production can be mitigated by a more streamlined pipeline, since SotG is exclusively used for the web player.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
October 27 2011 14:38 GMT
#34644
WTF? What is going on at MLG? Why do we have to wait for so frickin' long for the VOD to come out? It used to be out a few hours after the show aired and I think it was just JP by himself doing it then? Now he's got help and it's taking a bullshit amount of time?

I know it's not being delayed on purpose and please don't take my frustration as anything other than impatience to watch the show that I love, but get the fucking VOD out already! If it's up the following morning (your time) that's acceptable for most people (annoying for me, but I'm in Australia so I actually live in the future), but a couple of days later is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too long. I've just about given up on watching the VOD and I've gotta say that the MP3 on it's own doesn't do the show justice (if nothing else we miss out on inControl's zoom-in face ).

Really missing the show guys. Don't take this as criticism, but people REALLY want these VODs to come out quicker.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 27 2011 14:39 GMT
#34645
On October 27 2011 23:36 BoomNasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 21:26 ondik wrote:
On October 27 2011 21:00 Kira__ wrote:
On October 27 2011 18:13 ondik wrote:
On October 27 2011 14:24 HughJorgen wrote:
Are you all mad that it takes months before they air the new episode of Futurama they just recorded?

What kind of stupid argument is that, seriously?

I think it would help A LOT if JP told us whether to expect it one day, two days or three days later. Anyway, with each day later it loses a lot viewership.


They're not losing viewership because the vod is a day or two after the episode was aired. Don't kid yourself.


Of course they're, that's not even a question. Only thing you can argue about is how much viewership they're losing. Just to be clear, I'm talking about Europeans watching vods who can't catch the episodes live (99 %). For me it's like this:

Vod released day after SOTG: 90 % probability of me watching.
Vod released 2 days after SOTG: 80 % probability of me watching.
Vod released 4 days after SOTG: 50 % probability of me watching.
Vod released after next SOTG: 5 % probability of me watching.

I think reasons for this are pretty obvious and were already mentioned in this thread.



stop making up random numbers. the validity of those numbers is just as valid as your argument

He's not making anything up. He's just saying that the longer it takes for the VODs to be released the less likely he is to watch it. The same counts for a lot of people I think.
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
October 27 2011 14:41 GMT
#34646
Had to watch the mp3, not being able to see the dogs make me sad
pycho
Profile Joined January 2011
Paraguay372 Posts
October 27 2011 14:46 GMT
#34647
wtf jp lost his passion
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
October 27 2011 14:47 GMT
#34648
Someone is ruining esports here.

And I intend to find out who it is.
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
October 27 2011 14:47 GMT
#34649
On October 27 2011 23:36 BoomNasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 21:26 ondik wrote:
On October 27 2011 21:00 Kira__ wrote:
On October 27 2011 18:13 ondik wrote:
On October 27 2011 14:24 HughJorgen wrote:
Are you all mad that it takes months before they air the new episode of Futurama they just recorded?

What kind of stupid argument is that, seriously?

I think it would help A LOT if JP told us whether to expect it one day, two days or three days later. Anyway, with each day later it loses a lot viewership.


They're not losing viewership because the vod is a day or two after the episode was aired. Don't kid yourself.


Of course they're, that's not even a question. Only thing you can argue about is how much viewership they're losing. Just to be clear, I'm talking about Europeans watching vods who can't catch the episodes live (99 %). For me it's like this:

Vod released day after SOTG: 90 % probability of me watching.
Vod released 2 days after SOTG: 80 % probability of me watching.
Vod released 4 days after SOTG: 50 % probability of me watching.
Vod released after next SOTG: 5 % probability of me watching.

I think reasons for this are pretty obvious and were already mentioned in this thread.



stop making up random numbers. the validity of those numbers is just as valid as your argument

Making up random numbers? Do you need glasses? He is talking about the probability of him even watching the show depending on how late it is released. He is not making up numbers, he is talking about himself.

The point is, what he is saying will be true of a lot of people. I know for myself, the later the availability of the show, the less interesting it will be because it will be out of date. Everything that was discussed in the show will have been discussed elsewhere if it takes more than 3-4 days for it to be released.

I find it telling that through MLG, a supposedly larger and more 'professional' (capitalistic) entity than JP alone, it has always been problems with getting the show released. Whereas with JP alone it was almost always out on time. That's what happens when you have to run it through profitable channels.
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
October 27 2011 14:54 GMT
#34650
When I come home I'll check if the VOD is up, if it's not up I'll just listen to the MP3 and don't bother waiting for the VOD. I miss Blip.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 27 2011 14:59 GMT
#34651
It's funny because they make comments about the pages and pages a controversy will bring up in the thread but all I see are posts asking for the VODs to come up.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
October 27 2011 15:02 GMT
#34652
On October 27 2011 23:59 mordek wrote:
It's funny because they make comments about the pages and pages a controversy will bring up in the thread but all I see are posts asking for the VODs to come up.


Well it's harder to discuss controversy if people can't see the show x)
Romanes eunt domus
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
October 27 2011 15:11 GMT
#34653
People will start recording the episode live to upload it somewhere else, thats the problem for MLG here.

Please more strategy talk I'm nearly only interested in that part of the show instead of the following:

"Tournament X went that way. What did you think of it?"
- Didnt watch/ Winner played good

"Tournament X is coming up"
- Random bracket-prediction with little to no explanation.


This is our town, scrub
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 27 2011 15:13 GMT
#34654
funny funny sotg i just heard.

the ONLY complaint i have: get rid of the generic electric guitar MLG music. it's so boring and puts me to sleep. other than that AWESOME JOB!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
October 27 2011 15:15 GMT
#34655
yea, only thing i'd like to see changed is those tournament predictions. it should go like this: "ok, who wants to say something about this group, is anything interesting in it?" - and then someone says something if they want to. This way we would get less and more focused informations which is more interesting to listen.
This way with forcing everyone to comment on each group of each tournament is ruining esports.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
October 27 2011 15:16 GMT
#34656
the MLG uploaders are killing E-sports.
dementrio
Profile Joined November 2010
678 Posts
October 27 2011 15:18 GMT
#34657
where/how did the ruining esports meme begin?
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
October 27 2011 15:24 GMT
#34658
On October 28 2011 00:18 dementrio wrote:
where/how did the ruining esports meme begin?


People tried their hardest to produce the lamest, least funny meme possible, and then repeated it 5 billion and 6 times with the scant hope that somewhere, someday, somebody will actually laugh.
vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
October 27 2011 15:27 GMT
#34659
i want to criticize the delay time for the vods to be uploaded, i tried staying that late and fell a sleep after 15 mins into the show, and most episodes i rely on the vods, but with further delay i am really loosing interest. I guess i am not alone when it comes to this, most Europeans have to either screw their sleeping schedule and watch it live or being forced to wait for vods this long...
For the swarm!
Zislu
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden17 Posts
October 27 2011 15:59 GMT
#34660
And this is why I don't watch MLG. If I would I'd be using adblock +.
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