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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1681

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pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
October 18 2011 21:39 GMT
#33601
I would love to know what they think about how good is MC right now, particulary artosis
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
October 18 2011 21:42 GMT
#33602
Is the show time accurate? Did they mean EDT? Because I'm going to go to bed early and get up very early to see this but I don't want to be already halfway through.
sdrawkcab_
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway113 Posts
October 18 2011 22:26 GMT
#33603
On October 19 2011 05:56 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 04:25 sdrawkcab_ wrote:
Question for SOTG:
DjWheat is pretty vocal about not wanting Starcraft 2 on TV, what are your thoughts on the matter?

Not a good question because that doesn't completely represent Wheat's position. For example, I think he's fine with OGN and MBC broadcasting SC2. Wheat is extremely weary of a specific pitfall that televised video game content has been victim to in the past. He's not averse to TV specifically but rather to the transformation that esports content tends to undergo after the changes that certain networks have deemed necessary and/or appropriate in the past. And now he has a conflict of interest (he works for twitch.tv) so I'm not sure that it's appropriate to continue the discussion with him and I don't think it's appropriate to continue the discussion without him, either.


First, thank you for taking time to answer questions in this thread. Second, I was merely using Wheat as an example of a community figure who has voiced his opinions on the issue as an intro to the question. So, disregarding Wheat and his opinions/positions/obligations, what are yours, or the other hosts opinion of SC2 on TV? Is there a model that could work in your opinion?
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
October 18 2011 23:04 GMT
#33604
Hopefully they talk about kiwikaki vs stephano at the ipl.
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
October 18 2011 23:28 GMT
#33605
JP subtly hinting that he doesn't buy a GSL ticket.
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
October 18 2011 23:33 GMT
#33606
On October 19 2011 06:42 Soleron wrote:
Is the show time accurate? Did they mean EDT? Because I'm going to go to bed early and get up very early to see this but I don't want to be already halfway through.


i think its right that works for them because they are all central or west coast .... sigh
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 19 2011 00:06 GMT
#33607
http://tmdwn.com/6s

SotG countdown timer.The show will be a hour later than what usually.
Cackle™
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 19 2011 00:09 GMT
#33608
On October 19 2011 07:26 sdrawkcab_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 05:56 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 19 2011 04:25 sdrawkcab_ wrote:
Question for SOTG:
DjWheat is pretty vocal about not wanting Starcraft 2 on TV, what are your thoughts on the matter?

Not a good question because that doesn't completely represent Wheat's position. For example, I think he's fine with OGN and MBC broadcasting SC2. Wheat is extremely weary of a specific pitfall that televised video game content has been victim to in the past. He's not averse to TV specifically but rather to the transformation that esports content tends to undergo after the changes that certain networks have deemed necessary and/or appropriate in the past. And now he has a conflict of interest (he works for twitch.tv) so I'm not sure that it's appropriate to continue the discussion with him and I don't think it's appropriate to continue the discussion without him, either.


First, thank you for taking time to answer questions in this thread. Second, I was merely using Wheat as an example of a community figure who has voiced his opinions on the issue as an intro to the question. So, disregarding Wheat and his opinions/positions/obligations, what are yours, or the other hosts opinion of SC2 on TV? Is there a model that could work in your opinion?

We already talked about it in general. If your question isn't specifically about Wheat, then the other guy who responded to you is exactly right. You must have missed part of an episode.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Atlas247
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada318 Posts
October 19 2011 00:15 GMT
#33609
I hope you guys don't spend the whole time talking about Orlando/providence. Some IPL and GSL discussion would be cool.
Windex Banana Lampshade
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
October 19 2011 00:16 GMT
#33610
On October 19 2011 09:09 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 07:26 sdrawkcab_ wrote:
On October 19 2011 05:56 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 19 2011 04:25 sdrawkcab_ wrote:
Question for SOTG:
DjWheat is pretty vocal about not wanting Starcraft 2 on TV, what are your thoughts on the matter?

Not a good question because that doesn't completely represent Wheat's position. For example, I think he's fine with OGN and MBC broadcasting SC2. Wheat is extremely weary of a specific pitfall that televised video game content has been victim to in the past. He's not averse to TV specifically but rather to the transformation that esports content tends to undergo after the changes that certain networks have deemed necessary and/or appropriate in the past. And now he has a conflict of interest (he works for twitch.tv) so I'm not sure that it's appropriate to continue the discussion with him and I don't think it's appropriate to continue the discussion without him, either.


First, thank you for taking time to answer questions in this thread. Second, I was merely using Wheat as an example of a community figure who has voiced his opinions on the issue as an intro to the question. So, disregarding Wheat and his opinions/positions/obligations, what are yours, or the other hosts opinion of SC2 on TV? Is there a model that could work in your opinion?

We already talked about it in general. If your question isn't specifically about Wheat, then the other guy who responded to you is exactly right. You must have missed part of an episode.


It was episode 52 about 3/4 of the way in if you're looking.
Guess who`s special?!
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
October 19 2011 00:48 GMT
#33611
On October 19 2011 05:56 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 04:25 sdrawkcab_ wrote:
Question for SOTG:
DjWheat is pretty vocal about not wanting Starcraft 2 on TV, what are your thoughts on the matter?

Not a good question because that doesn't completely represent Wheat's position. For example, I think he's fine with OGN and MBC broadcasting SC2. Wheat is extremely weary of a specific pitfall that televised video game content has been victim to in the past. He's not averse to TV specifically but rather to the transformation that esports content tends to undergo after the changes that certain networks have deemed necessary and/or appropriate in the past. And now he has a conflict of interest (he works for twitch.tv) so I'm not sure that it's appropriate to continue the discussion with him and I don't think it's appropriate to continue the discussion without him, either.


I totally disagree about Wheat having any kind of interest conflict in working for twitch.tv. I really doubt the justin.tv people see themselves as competing with any television entity. In fact I'd say a lot of what justin.tv does is totally opposite what television does (i.e. putting the broadcast in the hands of the viewer rather than producing specific content for consumption by a demographic) and part of what they should be doing is talking about why SC2 shouldn't be on TV (or exactly how it should be on TV and furthermore how that should coexist with and be complemented by internet broadcasting). So I think now would be an even better time to ask Wheat that question (or anyone from twitch.tv really)
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
October 19 2011 01:07 GMT
#33612
On October 19 2011 09:48 tsuxiit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 05:56 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 19 2011 04:25 sdrawkcab_ wrote:
Question for SOTG:
DjWheat is pretty vocal about not wanting Starcraft 2 on TV, what are your thoughts on the matter?

Not a good question because that doesn't completely represent Wheat's position. For example, I think he's fine with OGN and MBC broadcasting SC2. Wheat is extremely weary of a specific pitfall that televised video game content has been victim to in the past. He's not averse to TV specifically but rather to the transformation that esports content tends to undergo after the changes that certain networks have deemed necessary and/or appropriate in the past. And now he has a conflict of interest (he works for twitch.tv) so I'm not sure that it's appropriate to continue the discussion with him and I don't think it's appropriate to continue the discussion without him, either.


I totally disagree about Wheat having any kind of interest conflict in working for twitch.tv. I really doubt the justin.tv people see themselves as competing with any television entity. In fact I'd say a lot of what justin.tv does is totally opposite what television does (i.e. putting the broadcast in the hands of the viewer rather than producing specific content for consumption by a demographic) and part of what they should be doing is talking about why SC2 shouldn't be on TV (or exactly how it should be on TV and furthermore how that should coexist with and be complemented by internet broadcasting). So I think now would be an even better time to ask Wheat that question (or anyone from twitch.tv really)


I wouldn't be surprised if justin.tv people considered themselves competitors to regular cable networks. It's precisely because the business model differs that they are competitive at all. I don't pay for cable because I'm not going to spend 1/3rd of my time watching commercials for shows that I can only watch at certain times. We'll see if the traditional model lasts and if internet broadcasting can provide enough content to truly compete.
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
October 19 2011 02:53 GMT
#33613
TL Calendar says it starts in 23 minutes, OP says 12:30am? Which is it?!?!?
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
October 19 2011 02:54 GMT
#33614
On October 19 2011 11:53 Jackle wrote:
TL Calendar says it starts in 23 minutes, OP says 12:30am? Which is it?!?!?

...Do you understand how Time Zones work?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 19 2011 02:58 GMT
#33615
On October 19 2011 11:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 11:53 Jackle wrote:
TL Calendar says it starts in 23 minutes, OP says 12:30am? Which is it?!?!?

...Do you understand how Time Zones work?

...do you understand the OP and the calendar say different times?

But it is at the normal time, 11:30 edt, 8:30 pdt according to JP on twitter. The countdown thing he tweeted earlier was wrong.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
October 19 2011 03:04 GMT
#33616
On October 19 2011 11:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 11:53 Jackle wrote:
TL Calendar says it starts in 23 minutes, OP says 12:30am? Which is it?!?!?

...Do you understand how Time Zones work?


Do you understand that in under 23 minutes, it's not 12:30AM EDT?
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
PirateEd
Profile Joined June 2011
United States61 Posts
October 19 2011 03:07 GMT
#33617
On October 19 2011 12:04 Jackle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 11:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On October 19 2011 11:53 Jackle wrote:
TL Calendar says it starts in 23 minutes, OP says 12:30am? Which is it?!?!?

...Do you understand how Time Zones work?


Do you understand that in under 23 minutes, it's not 12:30AM EDT?


23:30 EST... 11:30pm EST
andrewnguyener
Profile Joined March 2011
United States548 Posts
October 19 2011 03:08 GMT
#33618
can't wait for tonights episode!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 19 2011 03:10 GMT
#33619
On October 19 2011 12:07 PirateEd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 12:04 Jackle wrote:
On October 19 2011 11:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On October 19 2011 11:53 Jackle wrote:
TL Calendar says it starts in 23 minutes, OP says 12:30am? Which is it?!?!?

...Do you understand how Time Zones work?


Do you understand that in under 23 minutes, it's not 12:30AM EDT?


23:30 EST... 11:30pm EST

Which is What the calendar says (well sorta) but the open doesn't.

It starts in 20 mins though.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
October 19 2011 03:11 GMT
#33620
On October 19 2011 12:08 andrewnguyener wrote:
can't wait for tonights episode!


Me too! Sooooooo much to talk about. So much MLG happened, IPL, other tournaments, Destiny on a team, new protoss unit revealed, bw players to blizzcon, BLIZZCON!, so so much.
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