On August 03 2011 14:43 SafeAsCheese wrote: Going to be so happy when NesTea runs into a baller terran early on and gets outed
Even you have TOP, and even sC outplayed him in their series, but made a huge blunder at the very end. That won't continue to happen. Theres a lot of new TvZ builds and baller terrans emerging..
On August 03 2011 14:36 BearChocolate wrote: I for one am really glad that iNcontroL is back. It just feels a lot more relaxed and conversational while also being funnier.
If him making fun of and trolling any serious argument made by people is "relaxed" then sure. I don't like his attitude towards Artosis and any other guests who make smart, logical arguments and discussions.
Kind of agree with this. He's funny but sometimes when something serious is happening he should stop making jokes and have serious discussions. Tone it down a little and it'll be fine.
On August 03 2011 14:43 SafeAsCheese wrote: Going to be so happy when NesTea runs into a baller terran early on and gets outed
Even you have TOP, and even sC outplayed him in their series, but made a huge blunder at the very end. That won't continue to happen. Theres a lot of new TvZ builds and baller terrans emerging..
Im sorry but that wont happen!
Yeah it will...if you look at the games itself and not just his placings you'll see he doesn't have the "bonjwa" aura of invincibility; the sureness that he'll win every game. Yeah he's won all of them but he's looked mortal in alot of them.
I hope they comment on MLG prize pool, I understand there may be alot of logistics around it but I feel first prize being 5k is 10k short of what it needs to be !
You guys give way too little credit to Losira. He's hands-down without a doubt the 2nd best Zerg player in the world and he probably has better ZvP than even Nestea
On August 03 2011 14:46 Mohdoo wrote: Oh god. Please tell me incontrol didn't just say they are flying Puma out to the EG house T_T
He is staying in Korea afaik. Basically, he would fly to the EG house ~2 weeks before MLGs to bootcamp with the team. Basically bringing Korea to the US. He will raise the caliber of all the players around him, and get used to the time difference.
On August 03 2011 14:42 Heavenly wrote: Lol Artosis, really? This guy is so obsessed with hyping people seriously. How can an old school BW player call Nestea the Bonjwa if he wins another GSL? It'd be his second in a row but it's not like he went through scfou, MC, MVP, Bomber, etc. on the way to the last finals and Top knocked him out one month ago.
Got to agree here, I'm a little confused by the whole thing. You know what would make someone a bonjwa at this time? Someone who would win something ridiculous like 4 gsls in a row WHILE knocking out Nestea each time (who is head and shoulders above the rest of the competition a lot of the times). I mean that's pretty much what it took for flash to be crowned the last bonjwa (That and also doing something no one including nada has done before which is to win dual starleagues at the same time). It's an accomplishment to even take a game off flash. And it's felt like that for about a YEAR now. Nestea has "only" won two gsls back to back in the span of what, 3 months? Of course, his last win is his most convincing argument that he's headed towards that direction...100% win rate and a 4-0 domination (not only in games, but in strategy, mentality, skill, EVERYTHING i.e. flash like) over the second best zerg in the world (Still...his zvz's not that great)....If Nestea keeps this up for the next year then yes... he will be the first sc2 b.
Also, Nestea needs to prove himself against mma, MVP, and other monster terrans. Another ingredient of bonjwahood is doing something extraordinary in the current times i.e. Overcoming unbelievablely imbalanced maps against a race that doesn't seem like it should lose ala Savior (Not that terrans or maps are imba atm)
On August 03 2011 14:42 Heavenly wrote: Lol Artosis, really? This guy is so obsessed with hyping people seriously. How can an old school BW player call Nestea the Bonjwa if he wins another GSL? It'd be his second in a row but it's not like he went through scfou, MC, MVP, Bomber, etc. on the way to the last finals and Top knocked him out one month ago.
Got to agree here, I'm a little confused by the whole thing. You know what would make someone a bonjwa at this time? Someone who would win something ridiculous like 4 gsls in a row WHILE knocking out Nestea each time (who is head and shoulders above the rest of the competition a lot of the times). I mean that's pretty much what it took for flash to be crowned the last bonjwa (That and also doing something no one including nada has done before which is to win dual starleagues at the same time). It's an accomplishment to even take a game off flash. And it's felt like that for about a YEAR now. Nestea has "only" won two gsls back to back in the span of what, 3 months? Of course, his last win is his most convincing argument that he's headed towards that direction...100% win rate and a 4-0 domination (not only in games, but in strategy, mentality, skill, EVERYTHING i.e. flash like) over the second best zerg in the world (Still...his zvz's not that great)....If Nestea keeps this up for the next year then yes... he will be the first sc2 b.
Also, Nestea needs to prove himself against mma, MVP, and other monster terrans. Another ingredient of bonjwahood is doing something extraordinary in the current times i.e. Overcoming unbelievablely imbalanced maps against a race that doesn't seem like it should lose ala Savior (Not that terrans or maps are imba atm)
Your idea of what constitutes a bonjwa is is ridiculously overblown.
On August 03 2011 14:42 Heavenly wrote: Lol Artosis, really? This guy is so obsessed with hyping people seriously. How can an old school BW player call Nestea the Bonjwa if he wins another GSL? It'd be his second in a row but it's not like he went through scfou, MC, MVP, Bomber, etc. on the way to the last finals and Top knocked him out one month ago.
Got to agree here, I'm a little confused by the whole thing. You know what would make someone a bonjwa at this time? Someone who would win something ridiculous like 4 gsls in a row WHILE knocking out Nestea each time (who is head and shoulders above the rest of the competition a lot of the times). I mean that's pretty much what it took for flash to be crowned the last bonjwa (That and also doing something no one including nada has done before which is to win dual starleagues at the same time). It's an accomplishment to even take a game off flash. And it's felt like that for about a YEAR now. Nestea has "only" won two gsls back to back in the span of what, 3 months? Of course, his last win is his most convincing argument that he's headed towards that direction...100% win rate and a 4-0 domination (not only in games, but in strategy, mentality, skill, EVERYTHING i.e. flash like) over the second best zerg in the world (Still...his zvz's not that great)....If Nestea keeps this up for the next year then yes... he will be the first sc2 b.
Also, Nestea needs to prove himself against mma, MVP, and other monster terrans. Another ingredient of bonjwahood is doing something extraordinary in the current times i.e. Overcoming unbelievablely imbalanced maps against a race that doesn't seem like it should lose ala Savior (Not that terrans or maps are imba atm)
Your idea of what constitutes a bonjwa is is ridiculously overblown.
Is that why there has been 5 of them in the last 10 years? =|
On August 03 2011 14:42 Heavenly wrote: Lol Artosis, really? This guy is so obsessed with hyping people seriously. How can an old school BW player call Nestea the Bonjwa if he wins another GSL? It'd be his second in a row but it's not like he went through scfou, MC, MVP, Bomber, etc. on the way to the last finals and Top knocked him out one month ago.
Got to agree here, I'm a little confused by the whole thing. You know what would make someone a bonjwa at this time? Someone who would win something ridiculous like 4 gsls in a row WHILE knocking out Nestea each time (who is head and shoulders above the rest of the competition a lot of the times). I mean that's pretty much what it took for flash to be crowned the last bonjwa (That and also doing something no one including nada has done before which is to win dual starleagues at the same time). It's an accomplishment to even take a game off flash. And it's felt like that for about a YEAR now. Nestea has "only" won two gsls back to back in the span of what, 3 months? Of course, his last win is his most convincing argument that he's headed towards that direction...100% win rate and a 4-0 domination (not only in games, but in strategy, mentality, skill, EVERYTHING i.e. flash like) over the second best zerg in the world (Still...his zvz's not that great)....If Nestea keeps this up for the next year then yes... he will be the first sc2 b.
Also, Nestea needs to prove himself against mma, MVP, and other monster terrans. Another ingredient of bonjwahood is doing something extraordinary in the current times i.e. Overcoming unbelievablely imbalanced maps against a race that doesn't seem like it should lose ala Savior (Not that terrans or maps are imba atm)
Your idea of what constitutes a bonjwa is is ridiculously overblown.
No, it's not . People were hesitant to even give Jaedong bonjwa status EVER and look at how dominant he was for so long. It's really not a good term to use for someone who is dominating unless they are the michael jordan or the babe ruth of starcraft.
EPT
. People were hesitant to even give Jaedong bonjwa status EVER and look at how dominant he was for so long. It's really not a good term to use for someone who is dominating unless they are the michael jordan or the babe ruth of starcraft.
