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On June 01 2011 14:41 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 14:39 arQ wrote: So, Destiny, someone who thinks that using the word "nigger" is really bad is part of a "sensitive minority"? Who the hell is this guy? Do you think there is a reason that ESPN (yea its a big difference but the point is valid) does not use words like rape and nigger?
This guy just comes off like a total unprofessional unintellectual douche. You don't get it. His stream is his own personal space. He speaks on it as he would in everyday. And why shouldn't he be exactly who he is on his stream? He specifically said if he was casting a tournament... or something like that, where he was representing someone else or the community as a whole he would censor himself... I just don't get what the hell Geoff is going on about.
That some language is still unacceptable. Geoff isn't saying that Destiny doesn't have the right to use that language, but rather that it is better if he didn't
Certain words have an inherent violence behind them, in a very real way. The word rape is unacceptable in any other sport/venue and if sc2 wants to be taken seriously then we need to treat language the same way. Not to mention racial slurs in a community that is almost entirely white (in the west).
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On June 01 2011 14:43 rolfe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 14:42 SenorChang wrote: Thank god for Hot_bid's twitter during this topic <3 kennigit too.
And mine, considering Kennigit has retweeted two of my jokes.
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On June 01 2011 14:43 Razyel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 14:43 travis wrote: This is actually getting funny that this conversation is still going. How is it funny ? Because everyones raging out that it's still going.
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GEOFF NO STOP SAYING NO DONT NO LAST THOUGH FUUUUUUUUCK
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On June 01 2011 14:43 travis wrote: This is actually getting funny that this conversation is still going.
Rape is no laughing matter!
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just gonna throw it out there that the only time I heard a starcraft2 representative/streamer/etc say nigger was incontrol, 8 times this stream.
I honestly can't remember destiny ever saying that
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Now people on the show start to get annoyed by Geoff -_-
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Incontrol called me an idiot, i'm offended
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On June 01 2011 14:43 Razyel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 14:43 travis wrote: This is actually getting funny that this conversation is still going. How is it funny ?
That they haven't had anything new to say for a long time and everyone is bored. It's probably because most of them are drunk.
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If destiny doesn't want to represent the community, then why is he listed on team liquid.. if he only represents himself then take him off this page and away from this community !
he still has not explained what the N-word means to him when he uses it...
how can team liquid mods ban users for offensive posts yet still allow this guy to be offensive under the excuse of 'i don't represent the community'
get him off the page !!!
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On June 01 2011 14:45 hopoo wrote: just gonna throw it out there that the only time I heard a starcraft2 representative/streamer/etc say nigger was incontrol, 8 times this stream.
I honestly can't remember destiny ever saying that
I don't watch destiny too much maybe an hour or 2 per day max but I never hear him say nigger
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On June 01 2011 14:45 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 14:43 Razyel wrote:On June 01 2011 14:43 travis wrote: This is actually getting funny that this conversation is still going. How is it funny ? That they haven't had anything new to say for a long time and everyone is bored. It's probably because most of them are drunk.
It would be fine if destiny and incontrol didn't have this exact same discussion two days ago.
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The whole Destiny v. Inc (or whoever) is such a silly argument. Destiny won't change; but, then again, Destiny is not a major tournament caster. Clearly we should not use certain words in "mainstream" tournaments, but Destiny's channel is Destiny's channel.
That being said, as a former forensics (the speaking kind) and debate competitor, Geoff's tone reminds me so much of a "debater tone." It is very condescending, and I think that it weakens his argument. Geoff, good public speaking is not the same as what won you rounds in HS/college.
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do i not say nuke because japanese got nuked before? okay geoff just stop now...this is getting ridiculous.
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o.0 i'm tempted to make a poll with the question 'Do you look up to Incontrol?' now :/
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This whole "you have to represent E-sports even on personal streams" issue of Incontrol's is just misplaced and wrong. Just look at a person like Joe Rogan - he won't swear when he's commentating the UFC, but he places zero restrictions on his language in his standup or on his podcasts or whatever. And MMA has a whole, or UFC as a mainstream and profitable and increasingly culturally accepted phenonomon, is not negatively effected by this at all...
And the Nuked > Japan comment was so funny and so on point and basically shut down the whole "rape" issue.
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hey incontrol can you stop arguing with yourself and just move the fuck on?
we get it, you're a role model, and everyone should respect how role modely and trendsetty you are.
many of us don't give a fuck.
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Geoff do you're native american accent, thats totally not offensive to anyone.
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On June 01 2011 14:46 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 14:45 travis wrote:On June 01 2011 14:43 Razyel wrote:On June 01 2011 14:43 travis wrote: This is actually getting funny that this conversation is still going. How is it funny ? That they haven't had anything new to say for a long time and everyone is bored. It's probably because most of them are drunk. It would be fine if destiny and incontrol didn't have this exact same discussion two days ago.
What? Where? Really? ugh
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