Destiny clearly said he would not take that language to a public event... he simply uses it on his own stream. He is entitled to do what he wants... and the public won't say... hmm sc2? Let me check out this one stream and base everything I think about sc2 on it... D: he said a bad word! SC2 is evil!!

Come on now... Destiny has a valid point.

Blitz Beat

United States178 Posts

June 01 2011 05:37 GMT

#23462

Geoff wanted this topic guys. he's the one that decided today's topics. don't blame "them" if you don't enjoy it.

Falling

Canada11607 Posts

June 01 2011 05:38 GMT

#23463

@Destiny's argument: Rape is different because it can be a trigger word.

eviltomahawk

United States11135 Posts

June 01 2011 05:38 GMT

#23464

Although the current conversation is boring as fuck, I am currently amusing myself by mentally playing Guile's theme in my head while listening to this topic. Yakety sax also achieves similar amusement.

GenoZStriker

United States2914 Posts

June 01 2011 05:38 GMT

#23465

BOOM! This is where stage of the game falls.

Oreo7

United States1647 Posts

June 01 2011 05:38 GMT

#23466

Connotation is subjective. You can't make everyone happy. As many people will be made happy by the exemption of rape as will be offended that our vocabulary is being limited by political correctness. The only way to accomplish anything, in a capitalistic society, in this scenario, is let competition do it's job. If people don't want to hear people hear rape, they won't listen to people say rape.

The argument that somehow because someone is popular they suddenly have more moral responsibility is ridiculous. It's not because of Destiny that he is popular, therefore he shouldn't have to suffer the consequences of his popularity.

EDIT: People like incontrol willingly took up the banner of spokesman, so they do in fact increase the burden upon themselves.

Razyel

295 Posts

June 01 2011 05:38 GMT

#23467

I want to say how much I'm not interested in this subject, but seeing Idra staying there yawning and not saying anything speaks more then I can...stop please it's boring.

garlicface

Canada4196 Posts

June 01 2011 05:38 GMT

#23468

lol asking Greg now.

MozoM

France71 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23469

JP, tell me you're reading this and close the debate please! <3

RogerChillingworth

Chad3132 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23470

On June 01 2011 14:37 Mairu wrote:
Hotbid needs to call into the skype call and do some moderating to get them off this topic

Painful that no one else on the stream has the balls/sense to be like "okay, okay, we got it" and just fucking move on to something else.

This kind of cyclical debate style took precedent 4-5 episodes ago and no one's bothered to shake it.

Duoma

United States396 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23471

The fact that anyone is trying to defend the use of "rape" or any racial slurs as a part of the "gamer canon" is kind of ridiculous.

Not only are these words hurtful to those affected(and others) they DO NOT convey meaning effectively.

"Rape" and racial slurs are used in "gamer culture" because many "gamers" are teenagers.... There should be no defense to include these terms.

It is not even about pandering to a "hyper-sensitive" minority, it's about not talking like a fucking 13-year old kid. Grow up and learn how to convey your points and emotions without using words a pre-pubescent kid would use.

Don't give me this high-minded bullshit about "philosophy of language". Language is about conveing meaning effectively. These words are used by little kids for a reason, BECAUSE the do not convey meaning effectively. They are empty words which only bring harm, rather than clarify.

ShallNoiseUpon

United States311 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23472

Thank god for Idra.

eggs

1011 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23473

On June 01 2011 14:38 Falling wrote:
@Destiny's argument: Rape is different because it can be a trigger word.

what do you mean by this. destiny's point is that anything can be a trigger word for someone.

geNis

113 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23474

They're thinking of this in too much of a business sense. There are two different sides of Starcraft. There is the online community where we are just chilling out and I feel we should say whatever the fuck we want. Whereas, in the tournament sense people should censor themselves to try to appeal to the masses.

There should be a time and a place for everything.

arQ

1033 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23475

So, Destiny, someone who thinks that using the word "nigger" is really bad is part of a "sensitive minority"? Who the hell is this guy? Do you think there is a reason that ESPN (yea its a big difference but the point is valid) does not use words like rape and nigger?

This guy just comes off like a total unprofessional unintellectual douche.

DoomsVille

Canada4885 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23476

On June 01 2011 14:37 Chicane wrote:
Destiny clearly said he would not take that language to a public event... he simply uses it on his own stream. He is entitled to do what he wants... and the public won't say... hmm sc2? Let me check out this one stream and base everything I think about sc2 on it... D: he said a bad word! SC2 is evil!!

Come on now... Destiny has a valid point.

Yea I don't get what the hell Geoff is going on about. Destiny is completely and 100% justified in everything he says...

relyt

United States1073 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23477

Next topic please

Resistentialism

Canada688 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23478

You guys must be teenagers, this is a good conversation.

SC2Phoenix

Canada2814 Posts

June 01 2011 05:39 GMT

#23479

Hell yes idra. Dropping the logic bomb.

SigmaoctanusIV

United States3313 Posts

June 01 2011 05:40 GMT

#23480

This is turning into a serious episode... Where is the funny awesome shit from everyone being drunk? not that I am disappointed just thought tonight was going to be a lot different.