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deverlight
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Korea (South)463 Posts
August 15 2010 16:22 GMT
#21
Doh - figures someone would have already done it...

Anyone remember what was different balance-wise in early May?
deverlight
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Korea (South)463 Posts
September 24 2010 02:44 GMT
#22
Bumping this to coincide with Fruitseller complaining thread to see how Koreans feel about balance in general.

The note on 9-16 where the Zerg bar jumps from 57% to 73% mentions that on the 16th, Idra was eliminated from the GSL and jookToJung lost a game where he was in an advantageous position.

Looks as though after the patch, the numbers fell back to how they were before 9-16. But still a lot of people in Korea crying about Zerg. I wonder what it'll look like if Check and Cool are eliminated from the GSL in the ro16?
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 03:08:44
September 24 2010 03:01 GMT
#23
"QQ" has to be the worst meme yet...

Especially since "QQ" is the name of one of the largest IM services in the world. qq.com.cn
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
September 24 2010 03:06 GMT
#24
On August 16 2010 01:22 deverlight wrote:
Doh - figures someone would have already done it...

Anyone remember what was different balance-wise in early May?


roach was 1 supply
aka Sowelulol
Shakes
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia557 Posts
September 24 2010 03:09 GMT
#25
On August 15 2010 19:33 deverlight wrote:
I think it's interesting that the most votes came when the three races seemed to be relatively balanced based on peoples' complaints. If you look at 05/17-05/28 you find that the three races are in a rough equilibrium with the purple bar averaging the highest of any stage that's logged. Anyone remember what patch was in effect during this time period ?


According to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Patch_history it's patch 12. You can kind of tell by the few days earlier (when the patch was released) the zerg bar jumps through the roof over the roach 2 supply.
Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
September 24 2010 03:14 GMT
#26
Wow thats really funny and accurate as it shows the trends changing as patches/time go on.

Whats funny is it hit a few areas of harmony across all the races and then zerg started to sprint.
Ksyper
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bulgaria665 Posts
September 24 2010 03:22 GMT
#27
Well at least there's one place zerg is dominating.
Anyways I hope this site stays around for a long time so we can go back to it and say stuff like "remember when people used to whine that zerg is underpowered?"
deverlight
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Korea (South)463 Posts
September 24 2010 03:53 GMT
#28
Yeah I'm surprised to find the trends to be pretty much how they've been on TL. I don't really see anything that would suggest that balance was ever seen in a different light in Korea.

I think the trend for the next few days is going to depend largely on the performance of FruitSeller and CheckPrime in the GSL...

Looks like noone in Korea really buys that 1.1 patch has made things even.
MusiK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States302 Posts
September 24 2010 05:56 GMT
#29
Haha... as soon as the open beta started, we see a huge influx of Zerg QQ. I honestly expected the QQ to be higher after patch 13, but seems like they were mad QQ'ing the whole time.

Oh, and LOL @ the section after Idra loses and JooktoJung loses. xP

People are funny
BOOM!!! ~ Tasteless
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 24 2010 06:13 GMT
#30
"Zerg was OP in Korea"

Artosis was right according to his MYM article late in the beta.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
deverlight
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Korea (South)463 Posts
September 27 2010 10:34 GMT
#31
Surprisingly Zerg bar has gone up even after

+ Show Spoiler +
Cool beats oGsTOP. Possibly because of the post-game analysis pointing out that Cool pretty much did a defensive/economic all-in in order to come back in game 3.


I wonder how the GSL ro16 day 2 results are going to affect the next few days.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 27 2010 13:39 GMT
#32
lol awesome
deverlight
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Korea (South)463 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 18:00:07
September 29 2010 17:51 GMT
#33
GSL ro8 spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +

Looks like in pure volume, Zerg players haven't stopped complaining. Looks like ever since Tester was eliminated, Protoss players have come up in arms though.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 29 2010 20:08 GMT
#34
LOL at the red bars. so, pro koreans cant even change what blizzard have in mind?
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
October 05 2010 17:57 GMT
#35
Zerg going towards balance but protoss is getting more votes as we speak
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
October 05 2010 18:07 GMT
#36
I thought GREEN was for PROTOSS, not terran. WTF kind of crazy anarchy do we live in?

I'm suprized there is so much protoss QQ though, because I hear in Korea it's considered even stronger than terran (at least vs zerg). I guess theTvP issues are contributing to it though.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
October 05 2010 18:13 GMT
#37
Today, I QQ for Protoss.
I am a tournament organizazer.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 21 2010 19:46 GMT
#38
bumping for an unusual result today...
highest amount of QQ is for Protoss, then NOBODY, then Terran, and finally, Zerg.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
October 21 2010 20:08 GMT
#39
Well if FruitDealer says it's imba it must be... Right?
Being weak is a choice.
Protoss_Carrier
Profile Joined September 2010
414 Posts
October 21 2010 20:26 GMT
#40
so much QQ for toss lately.
Carrier has arrived.
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