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So, was Starcraft 2 'all that'??

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Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
August 14 2010 00:27 GMT
#1
We've had SC2 for a while now. Most of us are playing online after having finished the campaign, and a somewhat stable metagame is starting to emerge. So, having taken in the experience, was Starcraft 2 all you hoped for, or are you disappointed with this hugely anticipated sequel?

Poll: How would you rate SC2 as of now?

Awesome! Lives up to BW's legacy (233)
 
42%

A great game, but cannot fill BW's role (124)
 
22%

It's AMAZING! Best game I've ever played. (90)
 
16%

Extremely good. It surpasses all earlier Blizz RTS games (70)
 
13%

A good RTS game but nothing special (25)
 
4%

A decent RTS game that I will enjoy / have enjoyed for a little while (10)
 
2%

I downright don't like it (7)
 
1%

559 total votes

Your vote: How would you rate SC2 as of now?

(Vote): It's AMAZING! Best game I've ever played.
(Vote): Extremely good. It surpasses all earlier Blizz RTS games
(Vote): Awesome! Lives up to BW's legacy
(Vote): A great game, but cannot fill BW's role
(Vote): A good RTS game but nothing special
(Vote): A decent RTS game that I will enjoy / have enjoyed for a little while
(Vote): I downright don't like it

Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 00:30:17
August 14 2010 00:28 GMT
#2
Just curious! Ofc the poll will be somewhat biased as it isn't posted on the BW forums, but yea... I just wanna see how happy we all are with this game now that it's been out for a while :-)

Edit: Bah, the choices get reordered by how many votes they get. But it should be fairly obvious how they lie on the good-to-bad scale anyway I hope
Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
August 14 2010 00:32 GMT
#3
Best RTS since BW. Nothing is likely to change that since no company can afford to develop and support an RTS like Blizzard can.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
August 14 2010 00:33 GMT
#4
Posting this on a SC2 forum will sure yield results that are not predictable and can totally be drawn conclusions from.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 14 2010 00:33 GMT
#5
Being a huge BW fan I still look to it as the perfect "classic" game but surely SC2 can live up to those same high standards over time and after everyone is settled with how things are, or atleast are willing to admit when one race wins over another that its fair lol. Honestly though the real success of the game will come from the players/community and in the end it could be the best game on earth but if everyone isn't somewhat insync as with BW than it wont end having such a long lifespan like the original. Its all up to us
Necrosjef
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom530 Posts
August 14 2010 00:34 GMT
#6
In my mind SC2 certainly improves on BW in quite a few ways. Unfortunately Battlenet 2.0 is really bad. Which is a shame.
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Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
August 14 2010 00:34 GMT
#7
On August 14 2010 09:33 Bash wrote:
Posting this on a SC2 forum will sure yield results that are not predictable and can totally be drawn conclusions from.

I noted this - it will be hard to get completely accurate, unbiased results
Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 14 2010 00:35 GMT
#8
I voted nothing special. Bnet2 + current lackluster gameplay compared to BW = nothing special.

And also how can people think SC2 as of now lives up to BW's legacy LOL. OP should add a new option to the poll: "I have never followed the BW pro scene."
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
August 14 2010 00:36 GMT
#9
On August 14 2010 09:34 Jenslyn87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 09:33 Bash wrote:
Posting this on a SC2 forum will sure yield results that are not predictable and can totally be drawn conclusions from.

I noted this - it will be hard to get completely accurate, unbiased results

You should post this in the BW general forum too, as they are the people who's opinions I'm more interested in.
Beware The Proxy Pool Rush
Powster
Profile Joined April 2010
United States650 Posts
August 14 2010 00:37 GMT
#10
Never played brood war.. but I think I wouldve liked broodwar more than starcraft 2.. I like harder games.. I think SC2 is a good game.. but age of empires 2: age of kings is still my favorite RTS
Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
August 14 2010 00:38 GMT
#11
On August 14 2010 09:35 writer22816 wrote:
I voted nothing special. Bnet2 + current lackluster gameplay compared to BW = nothing special.

And also how can people think SC2 as of now lives up to BW's legacy LOL. OP should add a new option to the poll: "I have never followed the BW pro scene."

Stop being so anal - you know what I'm trying to say
Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
August 14 2010 00:38 GMT
#12
i think its amazing and fun, but i think bw still has it beat by a little. Thats not SC2's fault though, bw has simply been out for much longer, has been patched, has an expansion and a lot of following and rigorous play by progamers. So while i love SC2, we are just gonna have to wait until we see what type of "WOW" moments are going to come from it and whether it can rock the crowd as much as bw did. SC2 still has a TON of time and two expansions to prove itself though, its looking good for SC2.
Kill the Deathball
Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
August 14 2010 00:39 GMT
#13
On August 14 2010 09:36 im a roc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 09:34 Jenslyn87 wrote:
On August 14 2010 09:33 Bash wrote:
Posting this on a SC2 forum will sure yield results that are not predictable and can totally be drawn conclusions from.

I noted this - it will be hard to get completely accurate, unbiased results

You should post this in the BW general forum too, as they are the people who's opinions I'm more interested in.

Ok I'll do that
Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
August 14 2010 00:39 GMT
#14
Never played BW myself, but i am completely hooked on sc2. So i guess that means that the game lives up to its legacy.
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Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
August 14 2010 00:43 GMT
#15
Ok, so I posted it in the BW forum but it got locked by a mod.
Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
August 14 2010 00:47 GMT
#16
Probably the best shit I've ever played, especially me coming from FPS genre I didn't play a lot of BW or WC3. Feels solid, I just can't wait to see what people invent at the GSL/IEM huge money tournaments :D we're bound to see some cool shit.
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Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
August 14 2010 00:49 GMT
#17
Its a good game alright just wish it was more mechanically demanding.
no
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
August 14 2010 00:49 GMT
#18
It's a great game, I think it lives up to BW's legacy. I however didn't feel it stood up to WC3's SP. So I'm disappointed in that and I don't feel like there's much variety in the game in terms of art assets, even if there is a great deal of them. They all feel washed out and the rusty/dark colors are boring to look at after awhile for me.

I'm not really sure if the game itself will have the depth Brood War has, I think we'll have to wait for another expansion or two to get to that level and years of patching. It's still very good for a release game in terms of balance.
Hark!
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
August 14 2010 00:49 GMT
#19
With some clever patching and good communication with the community it'll get there. It looks promising at the moment, I'm still not entirely sure if I'm enjoying sc2 as much as I am right now simply due to the fact that its "fresh and new" though. It's definitely one of the best RTS games ever made, and tournaments popping up everywhere with cash prizes, streams etc helps a lot too
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 00:53:38
August 14 2010 00:53 GMT
#20
On August 14 2010 09:35 writer22816 wrote:
I voted nothing special. Bnet2 + current lackluster gameplay compared to BW = nothing special.

And also how can people think SC2 as of now lives up to BW's legacy LOL. OP should add a new option to the poll: "I have never followed the BW pro scene."


Aaaaaand, cue hating!

I hate to be the one to say this, but there are so many BW players butthurt about people leaving it for SC2. BW is an AMAZING game and fantastic to watch, so just enjoy it, no need to be a partypooper.
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ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
August 14 2010 00:53 GMT
#21
awesome but terran is just ridiculous right now
squaremanhole
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States82 Posts
August 14 2010 00:55 GMT
#22
Should have two polls, one for veterans and one for new-comers bandwagoning the shiny, new game.

No bias here.
Lonelyness is just like a curable illness,I cure it with fapping. - PlosionCornu
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
August 14 2010 00:55 GMT
#23
On August 14 2010 09:53 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
awesome but terran is just ridiculous right now


Lol.

Uh the poll seems to be a little broad, it has similar options ~_~
Great game though I think it has alot of potential the way Blizzard is pumping $$ into tournaments.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
August 14 2010 00:58 GMT
#24
It's not exactly fair to compare SC2 to BW since SC2 isn't a complete game and BW is. When both of the expansions are released and all of the units and game features are finalized, then we can start comparing BW to SC2.

Until then my stance is SC2 is the best competitive RTS since BW, but it's not better than BW.



"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
August 14 2010 00:59 GMT
#25
Best since BW. Has potential to be better than BW if the addons go right.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10022 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 01:01:56
August 14 2010 01:01 GMT
#26
sc2 is a good game but mechanics-wise its not 1/100th of the game that bw was
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 01:02:18
August 14 2010 01:01 GMT
#27
On August 14 2010 09:53 gillon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 09:35 writer22816 wrote:
I voted nothing special. Bnet2 + current lackluster gameplay compared to BW = nothing special.

And also how can people think SC2 as of now lives up to BW's legacy LOL. OP should add a new option to the poll: "I have never followed the BW pro scene."


Aaaaaand, cue hating!

I hate to be the one to say this, but there are so many BW players butthurt about people leaving it for SC2. BW is an AMAZING game and fantastic to watch, so just enjoy it, no need to be a partypooper.


Umm I honestly couldn't care less about people leaving it. the korean pro-scene is still there so why would i care if some random iccup players switch. but anyway who actually watched professional BW would know that current SC2 gameplay doesn't hold a candle to BW.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
August 14 2010 01:01 GMT
#28
Well since starcraft first became good after its expansion, I'm pretty patient given they have two more expansions before they're "done".

Its already a really good game though.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 14 2010 01:04 GMT
#29
I actually keep a list of my favorite games of all time, including titles such as Guilty Gear, Final Fantasy Tactics, Suikoden, League of Legends and Front Mission 3.

After looking up and down said list, I have to say, Starcraft 2 is at the top of it.
Hence, my vote: "It's AMAZING! Best game I've ever played."
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QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
August 14 2010 01:06 GMT
#30
On August 14 2010 10:01 iamtt1 wrote:
sc2 is a good game but mechanics-wise its not 1/100th of the game that bw was


Yeah, I get the feeling if the exact same game was released by a different company, under a different name of course, nobody would pay it any attention and everyone would still be playing BW.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 14 2010 01:08 GMT
#31
I voted that it lives up to BW legacy. There are issues with it, but one has to remember that it's a new game and there's at least 2 expansions coming for it. The campaign is FAR more fun than SC1 and most of the game has been improved.

Will it become a legendary game like SC1? Sure. Will it become as huge of an e-sports game? Maybe, hard to say for at least 2-3 years, but I would guess probably not. That, IMO, doesn't mean it doesn't live up to BWs legacy though.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
August 14 2010 02:10 GMT
#32
a good game. but nothing too special. they should've called it starcraft rebuilt or something.
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
August 14 2010 02:12 GMT
#33
On August 14 2010 09:33 Bash wrote:
Posting this on a SC2 forum will sure yield results that are not predictable and can totally be drawn conclusions from.

And posting this on a BW forum will result in much the same, no?
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 14 2010 02:20 GMT
#34
I'm going to go out on a limb and say results 1, 3, and 4 are mostly by people who have never played or watched BW. SC2, in its own right, is a really phenomenal game, but I just don't see it having the lifespan and captivation that BW still has. SC2 does have flaws though, and I hope Blizzard continues to improve the game well after the next two expansions.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
August 14 2010 02:23 GMT
#35
I'm a bw player from the start, had few longer breaks from it but still always watched the pro scene.
SC2 is an awesome game, some people are just afraid that our beloved bw pro scene will disappear. I can understand them but I think the change is welcome. We have played bw for 12 years, change isn't a bad thing as sc2 IS a great game. Despite some problems with bnet 2.0
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 14 2010 02:25 GMT
#36
Well I feel like its only lived up half of BW's legacy and thats fine cause theres 2 more games and not all of the features are installed yet. Once that happens then yes it will probably surpass Broodwar.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
Macavity
Profile Joined July 2010
United States83 Posts
August 14 2010 02:41 GMT
#37
The big problem with Starcraft 2 is how Blizzard screwed up the Zerg (both in the multiplayer and in the lore). There can be no simple 'fix' to it either.

Heart of the Swarm will either make or break Starcraft 2. It was the Brood War expansion that cemented Starcraft, so the question depends on whether the expansion will cement Starcraft 2.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 14 2010 02:52 GMT
#38
Its an incredibly fun game, but BW was in a class of its own
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
August 14 2010 02:57 GMT
#39
I think it's an awesome game. Just wish it was harder.
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Krychek
Profile Joined May 2010
United States172 Posts
August 14 2010 04:38 GMT
#40
Should be an option like "It´s a great game, but inferior to BW, not at his level".
Feel free to rage quit
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
August 14 2010 04:43 GMT
#41
At first it was "Dont worry guys its beta"
now its "dont worry guys, there are expansions coming out"
What next? Why can't we give an honest opinion about the game without relying on future add-ons that shoulda been in the game in the first place?
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
August 14 2010 04:52 GMT
#42
I don't get the point of threads like these.
Okay, everyone gives their opinions and then... what have we achieved?
Kigari
Profile Joined August 2010
Bahrain134 Posts
August 14 2010 05:03 GMT
#43
- Horribad optimization (Carmack could have the same game run on a pentium 3 with a 256 mb GPU)

- Ridiculously unstable & insecure Bnet (got hacked 3 weeks BEFORE release lol)

- Laughable campaign (casuals and fanboys got their share of shiny cinematics with porn-grade unsynchronized voice overs & bullshit re-hashed "epic story" so it satisfied 90% of the audience)

- Multiplayer & UMS is kind of fun if you ignore all these idiots constantly QQing about imbalance every time they lose.
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 14 2010 06:20 GMT
#44
Love SC2. Love BW. Simple.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
virgozero
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada412 Posts
August 14 2010 06:25 GMT
#45
Starcraft 2 is better than brood war by a mile.
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
August 14 2010 06:26 GMT
#46
SCBW was an amazing game, had a huge following, and it may be that nothing can fill its shoes. Ever. It'll remain my favorite game of all time just because of all the hours I sunk into it.

That being said, SC2 is a fantastic game in its own right. Blizzard really delivered a quality product in SC2 (aside from bnet concerns, but that may yet be resolved with the coming months). Will it leave as big of a mark as brood war? Only time can tell. My gut feeling is that it has the potential to be as great as brood war.
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Fruit_Salad
Profile Joined April 2010
United States8 Posts
August 14 2010 06:31 GMT
#47
Anyone else feel the campain left a lot of holes in the story?
Terran > Terran
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
August 14 2010 06:51 GMT
#48
Aside from some balance choices from Blizzard I think its an amazing game, and it gives me way more pleasure to watch pro vods of sc2 than BW nowdays.
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darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
August 14 2010 07:15 GMT
#49
Its a good game and all, but its no bw
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