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MLG Raleigh SC2 expands to 64 + invites - Page 4

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sammler
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom381 Posts
August 06 2010 11:23 GMT
#61
So sad that I'm at Leeds Festival that weekend. I usually have a great time watching the Halo (Go Carbon!) and WoW (Go Dignitas!), and with SC as well, I would be fit to burst. Thanks for pushing this JP, you were a big part of making American WoW a scene (RIP Arenacast) and now you're doing the same for SC
"I wish I was good enough to be called bad by IdrA." - Moa
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
August 06 2010 11:30 GMT
#62
Amazing!
SixSigma
Profile Joined August 2010
United States16 Posts
August 06 2010 11:34 GMT
#63
Wow, this is really cool. I'd like to see this. Is this going to be in the new Marriot downtown? This is what the MLG site makes it seem like.
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
August 06 2010 13:04 GMT
#64
So any well known players going now?
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
August 06 2010 13:55 GMT
#65
With only $7k in prizes I just don't see a big name attending this tournament. Especially, since gomtv has that 85k top prize going on at the same time -_- MLG really needs to up the ante on prize money or the big names will never play here.

Another scenario, say a good player does rise through playing mlg. He will just be lost when he realizes he can make 10x as much in tournaments across the sea.
f0rk
Profile Joined March 2010
England172 Posts
August 06 2010 14:11 GMT
#66
On August 06 2010 22:55 icemanzdoinwork wrote:
With only $7k in prizes I just don't see a big name attending this tournament. Especially, since gomtv has that 85k top prize going on at the same time -_- MLG really needs to up the ante on prize money or the big names will never play here.

Another scenario, say a good player does rise through playing mlg. He will just be lost when he realizes he can make 10x as much in tournaments across the sea.


The ESL online qualifier is that weekend as well, with nearly double the prize pool in the final tournament.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 14:28:12
August 06 2010 14:27 GMT
#67
I think the prize money is fine. If you live in the US the travel is cheaper and you don't risk as much of a loss if you don't win it. MLG might up the prize money as the game shows more and more support from the fans. MLG always has a great show except for the dr. pepper house segment during breaks.

Go go MLG bring the North American e-sports out of the halo's and wow arena! I wouldn't mind seeing Igoaf cast games as well. I last heard he got into SC2.
Brood War forever!
.zch
Profile Joined July 2010
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 15:57:56
August 06 2010 15:56 GMT
#68
On August 06 2010 22:55 icemanzdoinwork wrote:
With only $7k in prizes I just don't see a big name attending this tournament. Especially, since gomtv has that 85k top prize going on at the same time -_- MLG really needs to up the ante on prize money or the big names will never play here.


Jeez. There's always something to complain about, it seems.
TL.net three days ago: None of the big names will be attending this tournament, because the passes will sell out to a bunch of bronze, nay, practice league-caliber players! Make it an invitational!
MLG: Okay, we'll be awesome and expand the bracket and invite the top players so they don't have to worry about the passes selling out.
TL.net now: Well... none of the big names will be attending this tournament! MLG will never get off the ground this way, they need a prize pool of over $85k!

Did any of you see the gomtv schedule? It looks like a fantastic tournament. Hell, I'll watch it for sure, and 85k is absolutely awesome. However, for players to be in the running for that 85 grand, they have to be in Korea from September 4th through October 2nd. Uhhhh. Speaking of 'cost of attendance,' that is a significant investment in time and money. If you want to determine things purely by a "maximum money per time invested" basis, then gomtv still beats out MLG, but the difference isn't nearly as stark as the immediate impression of "85k vs. 5k." At (85k/29 days)= $2.93k a day for gomtv, and MLG is (5k/2days*)=2.5k a day, with a much lower cost of attendance.
* = I'm assuming MLG will have two days' worth of SC, because I believe that's how WoW and other non-Halo games tend to be

Sure, most/all Koreans will not play in MLG--they already live there. But I would suspect that we'll see many more big names of international players than the people complaining seem to think, especially with players that have other obligations leading them to not be able to dedicate a whole month of their time to playing a computer game in a different country. Most likely people will continue to be either cynical or ignorant and keep bringing this issue up, but to them all I can say is--why don't we just wait and see first? Both MLG and gomtv will continue to have tournaments. If gomtv truly steals every single top name in the SC2 scene, then it would be conducive to have discussions about how to get bigger names to go to MLG, and your complaints would be validated. However, I think you'll see that MLG will be an awesome, entertaining tournament. Have some faith.

EDIT: Source for gomtv schedule: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141496
Wigz
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada42 Posts
August 06 2010 18:10 GMT
#69
Seriously, the first 32 invites will most likely be bronze/silver league caliber players. Granted, I understand the need for an open invite tournament, but still... any Diamond league player that got in will have no problem dominating. I'd apply to go, but I need to work on getting into the Top 8 of my league. Right now, I'm sitting at #30 because I play 1v1 about the same amount as 2v2/3v3/4v4. I'm Diamond 1v1, Plat 2v2/3v3, and Diamond 4v4. All random teams. I haven't found good teammates to work with on a solid consistent team.

I'll see if I can get into Top 8 over the next few days then apply. If not, man.. sucks to be beat out by a first come first serve basis. I have friends in NC, so I could definitely hit up the tournament and crash at their places.

Wigz
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
August 06 2010 18:15 GMT
#70
On August 06 2010 22:04 Endorsed wrote:
So any well known players going now?

well considering they invited another 32 "well known" people, take a guess

On August 07 2010 03:10 Wigz wrote:
Seriously, the first 32 invites will most likely be bronze/silver league caliber players.

Where is your evidence for this?

I'm top 8 in my diamond league and so is a friend of mine and we both got in as the original 32. Also i'm sure Joseki is top 8 in his division.

Gotta love people who come to TL and talk about random crap without supporting their claims.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
Azile
Profile Joined March 2010
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 18:25:33
August 06 2010 18:20 GMT
#71
I don't know why everyone assumes the first 32 people who bought MLG slots are low level players. I know bronze players, I know silver players, if you even say 'MLG' to them they're going to reply "wat? I don't watch baseball dude". My friend bought the game the day it came out and he's silver 1v1 as protoss and can't even grasp the concept of what a build order is. He's not aware Phoenix is a unit, he's never made a mothership, he builds probes until his gateways are up then never makes a probe again. I watched one of his replays to give him tips a couple days ago and he doesn't chronoboost... ever, not one time in an entire game.

I highly doubt there were any players below platinum mashing F5 to get into MLG. If you believe otherwise you are severely overestimating the awareness of your average SC2 player about competitive gaming.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
August 06 2010 18:47 GMT
#72
On August 07 2010 03:20 Azile wrote:
I don't know why everyone assumes the first 32 people who bought MLG slots are low level players. I know bronze players, I know silver players, if you even say 'MLG' to them they're going to reply "wat? I don't watch baseball dude". My friend bought the game the day it came out and he's silver 1v1 as protoss and can't even grasp the concept of what a build order is. He's not aware Phoenix is a unit, he's never made a mothership, he builds probes until his gateways are up then never makes a probe again. I watched one of his replays to give him tips a couple days ago and he doesn't chronoboost... ever, not one time in an entire game.

I highly doubt there were any players below platinum mashing F5 to get into MLG. If you believe otherwise you are severely overestimating the awareness of your average SC2 player about competitive gaming.


There are a lot of people who play MLG Halo and other games who did get SC2 passes, so you're forgetting about those people.
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itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
August 06 2010 18:49 GMT
#73
Still have a couple of slots to work with guys so keep sending me PMs!
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 06 2010 19:13 GMT
#74
glad you FE the bracket to 64, makes me warm inside, thanks for doing this JP
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
August 06 2010 19:19 GMT
#75
Hey, if anyone from MLG can answer, please do:

Now that the event is expanded to 64 players, does that mean the tournament schedule will bleed over into Saturday as well? Players and spectators will need to know as soon as possible for flight/driving/hotel logistics!

Also, did Shrew or Adam ever get my e-mails? =P
Heroes, Hearthstone, and SC2 videos: http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
August 06 2010 19:26 GMT
#76
Can't wait to see the player list. Will we be able to see in time to decide if we want to go spectate the event?

Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
August 06 2010 19:33 GMT
#77
On August 06 2010 16:33 MLG.Shrew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 16:26 itmeJP wrote:
Nothing has been confirmed about who is casting the event and anything you've heard of seen is just a rumor at this point. Nothing to see, move along folks.

We got Ryan Seacrest and the Old Spice Guy

Fact.


Im holding you to this!
*whistles the little tune*
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Wigz
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada42 Posts
August 06 2010 20:07 GMT
#78
On August 07 2010 03:15 Backpack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 22:04 Endorsed wrote:
So any well known players going now?

well considering they invited another 32 "well known" people, take a guess

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 03:10 Wigz wrote:
Seriously, the first 32 invites will most likely be bronze/silver league caliber players.

Where is your evidence for this?

I'm top 8 in my diamond league and so is a friend of mine and we both got in as the original 32. Also i'm sure Joseki is top 8 in his division.

Gotta love people who come to TL and talk about random crap without supporting their claims.


Again, first come first serve means anybody. Enjoy crushing people who still don't know to play. Had I known about this earlier, I could just as well have signed up, seeing as how it's anybody really.
Wigz
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada42 Posts
August 06 2010 20:09 GMT
#79
On August 07 2010 04:33 Synwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 16:33 MLG.Shrew wrote:
On August 06 2010 16:26 itmeJP wrote:
Nothing has been confirmed about who is casting the event and anything you've heard of seen is just a rumor at this point. Nothing to see, move along folks.

We got Ryan Seacrest and the Old Spice Guy

Fact.


Im holding you to this!
*whistles the little tune*


Hahahahaha
Wigz
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada42 Posts
August 06 2010 20:12 GMT
#80
On August 06 2010 22:55 icemanzdoinwork wrote:
With only $7k in prizes I just don't see a big name attending this tournament. Especially, since gomtv has that 85k top prize going on at the same time -_- MLG really needs to up the ante on prize money or the big names will never play here.

Another scenario, say a good player does rise through playing mlg. He will just be lost when he realizes he can make 10x as much in tournaments across the sea.


Yeah, the prize money isn't spectacular enough to really attract european or asian players over. I won't say international, cause well, Canadian players could attend.
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