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FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 10:28:37
August 04 2010 21:31 GMT
#1
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I don't know about you guys, but I've been watching Trump's stream for the past few months and have always been impressed by his collected manner, interesting insights, and Final Fantasy chocobo remixes.

For those of you who don't know Trump, he's a ~700 Diamond Terran and streams his games here on Team Liquid.

Today I managed to get Trump on Skype for an interview - I was originally going to post it on my blog, but I think Team Liquid would benefit from this the most (besides, my readers are Team Liquid members too).

Some Things Covered In this Interview:
  • Some background information
  • Views concerning Diamond level players
  • Thoughts on racial balance
Enjoy!

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FC.Strike: Just to start off, I’ve been digging around, but I realized that there’s not actually a lot of information out there about you. So why don’t you tell us about yourself, the games you’ve played competitively in the past, and your experience with Starcraft 2.

Trump: Always played games a lot, even RTSes, but didn't get 'really good' at one until Starcraft 2. Started with the Age of Empires series for RTS, and then Warcraft 2 & 3. I'm one of the few people who really sucked at Starcraft 1 because of the outdated interface. I've been in Starcraft 2 since the start of beta and have been playing it quite a bit which gives me a pretty big edge.

Trump: And I'm also a roleplaying game lover at heart. I liked World of Warcraft and the Final Fantasy series. Weird mix for being an RTS player.

FC.Strike: I definitely know that I personally identify with the WoW / Final Fantasy thing - maybe it's in our asian blood

FC.Strike: So you're basically saying that you started out with a blank slate in SC2 when it comes to high level RTS play?

Trump: Blank slate in that I wasn't a SC1 gamer and that I wasn't in high level RTS play sure; but the divertsity of RTS games I've played help in me already having a baseline on what to spend my actions on / building economy / formulating strategies & countering / etc which is pretty much the heart of SC2.

FC.Strike: Alright, cool. Let's start digging a little deeper. I understand that you currently have 700 points on the NA 1v1 Diamond Ladder, making you the 25th highest ranked player. In your experience, what are the main things that separate the 400-500 point mid tier diamond players from the upper tier 700+ point players?

Trump: All the way down to 25th now? Alas!

FC.Strike: Yeah, you were sitting at 7th place just a few days ago.

Trump: 1st at some fleeting time in the wee hours of the night. I have a screenshot!

Trump: Anyways, the differences...

Trump: At 'low' diamond players generally have a very good build order down. They (mostly) build workers constantly. They (mostly) build units constantly. They (mostly) make attacks when it's beneficial for them (like right after researching a key upgrade)

Trump: At 'mid' diamond (400-500) the "mostly" increases to "almost certainly"

Trump: and at 'high' diamond (700+) they're the shakers and doers. They make their own build order, they're very flexible, they attack not when it's beneficial for just them but when it's actually negative for the opponent

Trump: more fancy stuff like micro, drops, etc. Just overall a big improvement on 'gamesense' and micro

Trump: 'gamsense' being the concept of knowing where the opponent's army is, what it is, what they plan on doing (in the future) rather than currently

Trump: so it's like scouting++

Trump: it's sort of like looking into the future and knowing what they're going to do in the next couple seconds/minutes. Like looking ahead in chess. That's probably the big difference for the high diamonds

FC.Strike: I guess that explains why you're constantly trying to make up new and exciting strategies on your streams. Speaking of that, where does the inspiration for some of these new builds come from? Or is it more of an internal type of thing?

FC.Strike: I remember you using thor/marauder in TvT before it was the "cool thing to do"

Trump: My inspiration comes from getting beat. Thor/Marauder for example - near the end of starcraft2 beta I faced cauthonluck and I got beat by exactly that. Hellion/Marine rush into Thor. So I started adopting it. And now it's a pretty common strategy. But going back that's what makes the high diamond players high diamond right now - they're the ones with the new cool 'unfair' strategies which dominate the mainstream strategies.

Trump: Designing a strategy is basically a process of thinking about what everyone is curently doing and then formulating a build that will counter it. When everyone was going very heavy viking, thors ended up being good because they would crush everything. Now people have switched to marauders and thor no long as good.

Trump: As for further inspiration, I do peridoically watch the top level games and see if there's something I can...'acquire' from them.

FC.Strike: Haha I see

FC.Strike: It sounds like you do a lot of metagaming (I'm sure people will give me a hard time for using that word, but you know what I mean). When you encounter a strategy on the ladder that isn't part of the mainstream, how willing are you to completely deviate from your planned strategy on the fly?

Trump: That's another thing that separates top diamond from 'normal diamond'. Top diamond players realize that this... "planned strategy" only lasts for about the first 4 minutes of the game (in game minutes), or roughly to 30-40 food. It's an "opener". And then you HAVE to completely deviate from anything to counter anything else that isn't "normal"

Trump: The other news is that most 'straegies' after playing a lot of games have been seen so I sort of have contingencies for everything the opponent might do and it's just a matter of transitioning into the 'counter'

FC.Strike: I suppose it just comes down to good scouting and game sense then?

Trump: It comes down to 'experience' - once you've 'experienced' a lot of strategies being done to you you sort of get a sense of the timing to expect certain things to come at you and what to do in that situation.

FC.Strike: Alright, let's talk racial balance for a bit. There’s been a lot of controversy in the past about EMP in TvP and general TvZ imbalance. What’s your take on the matter?

Trump: My take on the matter is that Blizzard is the one with all the data about what % of top diamond matches are won by T in TvP, in TvZ, etc, and they try to keep that at ~50%. And it is, to my knowledge, around that at the moment, so there is no imbalance.

Trump: Given those statistics, players need to realize that there are counters and ways around everything. It's sometimes hard to see, especially in the heat of a game and your entire army including 6 high templar gets EMP'd in one shot but watching the replays might shine some light on how you could have avoided bunching up your army, how you could have killed the opponent before he got EMP, how you could have gotten a less EMP-vulnerable-army, etc

FC.Strike: Those are some certainly bold words, I'm sure that response will bait out some flames here and there

FC.Strike: Moving away from racial balance, I realize that there are quite a few bronze - gold level players out there. Do you have any words of advice for them? What do you think is the best way to improve in the lower leagues?

Trump: Macro better. I made a video just for them.



FC.Strike: I guess the old K.I.S.S. rule works just fine in this case.

Trump: Yep. To get out of gold you just need to 1) Have a good (basic) build order. Too fancy and you won't be handle it if you don't have the basics down. 2) Build Units. 3) Build SCVs and expand.

FC.Strike: Cool cool. Maybe those gold players will make less new threads on Team Liquid and go play the game some more (one can only hope)

FC.Strike: Wrapping up, do you have any plans or dreams for yourself with regard to Starcraft 2? I noticed that you're not too active in the tournament scene so far.

Trump: I didn't have any plans coming in but since I've become a featured streamer on teamliquid (thanks teamliquid!) and I had a very brief moment as #1 worldwide in the ladder (...at 4:00 am early in release) I'll be a bit more ambitious in becoming better and teaching players how to get better as well. I've been looking into more tournaments also.

FC.Strike: Sounds good! Thanks for your time, Trump. Any last words for your fans?

Trump: I'd like to thank my fans for tuning into my stream before it was the cool thing to do and for keeping my stream civil despite it being the internets. Might be the classical music helping. Thanks for the interview.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
August 04 2010 21:32 GMT
#2
NIce interview but the title is a bit confusing, when did Trump get in Team Liquid?
Brood War forever!
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 21:34:11
August 04 2010 21:34 GMT
#3
On August 05 2010 06:32 Kralic wrote:
NIce interview but the title is a bit confusing, when did Trump get in Team Liquid?


I'm not saying that he's on the actual team `liquid, only that he's a proud member of Team Liquid (he has a featured stream). If it's too confusing, a mod can change the title
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renchak
Profile Joined April 2009
209 Posts
August 04 2010 21:37 GMT
#4
On August 05 2010 06:34 FC.Strike wrote:
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On August 05 2010 06:32 Kralic wrote:
NIce interview but the title is a bit confusing, when did Trump get in Team Liquid?


I'm not saying that he's on the actual team `liquid, only that he's a proud member of Team Liquid (he has a featured stream). If it's too confusing, a mod can change the title


I also misunderstood this, so it might be good to clarify. It'll be interesting to see what he thinks about the racial balance.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51709 Posts
August 04 2010 21:38 GMT
#5
changed the title, we don't want false assumptions running around here do we.
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 21:43:54
August 04 2010 21:38 GMT
#6
??? Who is trump?
Edit: ooh the guy streaming ----->

Edit 2:Whoever this guy is, he is right about Diamond.

Edit 3: Going to have to start watching trump's stream, thanks fakesteve
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
August 04 2010 21:38 GMT
#7
On August 05 2010 06:38 GTR wrote:
changed the title, we don't want false assumptions running around here do we.


Thanks
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 04 2010 21:41 GMT
#8
Really enjoy Trump's channel. He spends a lot of time trying to help people make that jump from newb to passable player, and beyond that, he's a decently clever Terran himself so he's fun to watch.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
RandomBS
Profile Joined July 2010
United States130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 21:44:49
August 04 2010 21:44 GMT
#9
LOL he just did a 3x nuke on like 5 warpgates

He has about 6 silos going

on his stream of course, it's on right now
"an intelligent zerg will go 2 hatch, my build was designed to take advantage of that and so lost because he went 3 hatch. going 3 hatch is utterly retarded for the reasons i just explained so yes i did lose because he did something dumb." -idra
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
August 04 2010 21:47 GMT
#10
Yeah, he's going nuke crazy right now on his stream, it's super entertaining to watch
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zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
August 04 2010 21:56 GMT
#11
HAHAHAHA awesome nukes. I think he nuked the protoss like 18 times. Pretty awesome.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
August 04 2010 22:01 GMT
#12
Trump is awesome to watch, kudos for streaming everything for the community. Hope to see him in some big tournament soon :D
Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
August 04 2010 23:21 GMT
#13
Great discovery, thanks.
bg
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
August 04 2010 23:37 GMT
#14
Nice interview. He is fun to watch
Ty
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Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
August 05 2010 00:40 GMT
#15
Very cool guy, I hope he stays in the SC2 scene for a long time.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 07 2010 00:54 GMT
#16
Yay for Terran streams!
It is amazing that he can stream continuously for such long periods of time.
6581
Xanatoss
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany539 Posts
August 07 2010 22:16 GMT
#17
How did I miss that gem till now? oO

Original I was not a great Fan of User-Streams, until I discovered Trump's a few days ago. Although he does not play my race, his commentary is very usefull and you listen to classic music during watching! (I would like to know if that is a kind of online-radio, and if yes, what the URL is?)
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss. MC says, "Hi Greg, long time no see." You back slowly out of the booth. But you can't. It's already forcefielded.
Tiorda
Profile Joined May 2010
United States91 Posts
August 08 2010 10:09 GMT
#18
Trump's stream is my favorite. It inspired me to race switch to Terran just because I get bombarded by so much information tuning in to his stream. He really interacts with the people tuning in and even sometimes asks the audience what they think he could have done to win. He's definitely made me a better player
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