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DamonRJ
Profile Joined May 2010
United States76 Posts
September 04 2010 05:27 GMT
#661
On September 04 2010 10:34 KrWx16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 10:34 Assault_1 wrote:
On September 04 2010 10:30 KrWx16 wrote:
On September 04 2010 10:21 JQL wrote:
i honestly think Pennoyer should have won this, but his achievement is greater than the $2000 anyway.


How is that greater?

all he did was worker rush and leave if he faced terran..


worker rush doesnt work against terran?


lift up your buildings


i lol'ed

like seriously
hahaha

made my day
Live only for yourself, any selfless deed is an untruthful and manipulative one
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 04 2010 05:36 GMT
#662
If I'm not mistaken, it's not a coincidence that he has ~6000 games with 3000 wins; unless he was top Diamond, bnet would assign him towards stronger opponents if he would win every game. So... he had to throw away half of the games on purpose, to stay in Bronze and get the fastest wins possible. It's the optimal strategy, because Bnet simply won't let you win, it will keep assigning you stronger opponents, until it starts giving you IdrA and HuK each time. You are better off dropping every second game as soon as it loads, for the optimal achievement speed.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
theEscape
Profile Joined September 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 05:46:18
September 04 2010 05:43 GMT
#663
viraltouch needs to go back to the League of Legend forums....

Awesome work Fayth, I think Blizzard has been utterly and totally amazing. They make awesome games with fantastic support and community collaboration, I wish I had a vastly expendable income so I could support them too =P I guess they'll just have to make do with my AU$99 till I win the lotto and can afford my own publicity stunts hehe
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
September 04 2010 05:49 GMT
#664
On September 03 2010 09:00 viraltouch wrote:
ahah bumping once more for the thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=37885
enjoy
roflmao. i do think he will pay though, just that its almost certain no one will complete it, and he probably knows it
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 04 2010 16:21 GMT
#665
haha i think fayth should alteast give him $60 to make up for the game.. he deserves it for sheer determination and the ability not to commit suicide. haha
Jaedong.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
September 04 2010 16:30 GMT
#666
On September 04 2010 14:49 We Are Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 09:00 viraltouch wrote:
ahah bumping once more for the thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=37885
enjoy
roflmao. i do think he will pay though, just that its almost certain no one will complete it, and he probably knows it

as of today someone would need ~637 wins to be on pace, a few people I've seen are diamond and ~1000 wins
febreze
Profile Joined April 2010
167 Posts
September 04 2010 16:48 GMT
#667
On September 04 2010 10:58 Sworn wrote:
I think the money should go to pennoyer since even against your cheesing rules he did win, he was first. It's like blizzard taking away athene's world first. Acknowledge that he did it send him the money and maybe have someone else get another 2000$ for the "Non Cheesing" Solo zen master.


This.

Being first, even though cheesing is quite the feat. At least 6200 games in 5 weeks, I certainly couldn't that using same strategy.
Beauty in truth, deception with dogma, meaning through life.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
September 04 2010 16:49 GMT
#668
really? only 637 wins to be on pace? Thats not much at all. If someone started the first week playing just solo, no team/etc it would be very reasonable/possible to attain the goal.

Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Kagami-sama
Profile Joined September 2010
460 Posts
September 04 2010 17:27 GMT
#669
On September 05 2010 01:30 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 14:49 We Are Here wrote:
On September 03 2010 09:00 viraltouch wrote:
ahah bumping once more for the thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=37885
enjoy
roflmao. i do think he will pay though, just that its almost certain no one will complete it, and he probably knows it

as of today someone would need ~637 wins to be on pace, a few people I've seen are diamond and ~1000 wins

There's only one person with significantly more than 637 wins on Random and higher than Bronze League, and that person quit at 1,000 wins.

http://sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/diamond/1/random/wins/0

Using about 15 different unit rushes (had 5+ rushing build orders per race, depending on map and matchup) got me promoted into Diamond (and demoted out of Diamond) with that many wins, even though I had no experience playing the original StarCraft melee/ladder (and only played the StarCraft II beta for about a week).

So that probably still counts as cheese, I guess...
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
September 06 2010 04:53 GMT
#670
as long as you don't massively cut scv/probe/drone early to put down pool/rax/gate I do not consider a cheese
Apollys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States278 Posts
September 06 2010 04:56 GMT
#671
On September 06 2010 13:53 Fayth wrote:
as long as you don't massively cut scv/probe/drone early to put down pool/rax/gate I do not consider a cheese


Well Pennoyer didn't do any of those things ^^
When you're feeling down, I'll be there to feel you up!
SyyRaaaN
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden136 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 01:04:37
September 09 2010 01:03 GMT
#672
http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/100807/1/Growl/rewards/

This guy - How? Sure u state EU - US servers - But how can he have played 6k games? And unlocked solo zen master?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 09 2010 01:06 GMT
#673
On September 09 2010 10:03 SyyRaaaN wrote:
http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/100807/1/Growl/rewards/

This guy - How? Sure u state EU - US servers - But how can he have played 6k games? And unlocked solo zen master?


the same way that Pennoyer did it... worker rush every game. A lot of people are actually doing the Pennoyer method just to get portraits.
SyyRaaaN
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden136 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 01:08:28
September 09 2010 01:07 GMT
#674
On September 09 2010 10:06 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 10:03 SyyRaaaN wrote:
http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/100807/1/Growl/rewards/

This guy - How? Sure u state EU - US servers - But how can he have played 6k games? And unlocked solo zen master?


the same way that Pennoyer did it... worker rush every game. A lot of people are actually doing the Pennoyer method just to get portraits.



Worker rush versus who? Nobody loses to that - or he loses in purpose to play lowest bronze players?
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Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
September 09 2010 01:15 GMT
#675
how is a worker rush winning people the game?
Day9 Made Me Do It
St. Fu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States75 Posts
September 09 2010 01:16 GMT
#676
I'd start playing random, but I'm freaking terribad. It'd take me around 9k games to get all those wins.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 09 2010 01:19 GMT
#677
On September 09 2010 10:15 Eeeegor wrote:
how is a worker rush winning people the game?


because the majority of players in bronze don't take their guys off mining while they are getting attacked (a lot of diamond players in 2s/3s/4s don't even do this, it's pretty pathetic) or they don't know that you can attack move.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 09 2010 01:20 GMT
#678
Omg im so confused, can people please clarify this shit for me.

1. How does Pennoyer have that many wins and no points - custom games? Or does he just quit every 2nd game to keep it at 50/50?

2. How the hell can you win with a worker rush? I just don't understand how this works since your opponent will have more workers than you.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
September 09 2010 01:23 GMT
#679
Dude, CheckPrime already has 800 some wins. You better get your money ready, he could very well break 1k wins by the end of the month
Yokoblue
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada594 Posts
September 09 2010 01:23 GMT
#680
if the opponent is not sending all worker + if u repair scv and do little micro u can win vs really bad persons
Master League playing Protoss and Zerg
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