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On July 10 2010 05:38 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2010 05:13 Jayme wrote:On July 10 2010 02:16 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 10 2010 02:13 Kennigit wrote:On July 10 2010 02:12 kzn wrote: I want, so badly, to make a backpedaling joke here. Why? They saw the reaction, and the smart thing to do was decide implement this change. They made a big decision that they said they put a lot of thought into and then they changed their minds before trying it because a bunch of little kids whined. That's a bit of an arrogant post don't you think? That's pretty much saying that the only people that had an objection to this real ID thing were kids that had no clue what they were talking about...when frankly it seemed like the total opposite to me. You don't have to try something to know if it's going to be a train wreck waiting to happen and this was likely one of those things. There were some mature adults objecting to it but if you took away all the ignorant and whining kids, there wouldn't have been enough people objecting. The popular opinion on teamliquid.net agrees with me. Everyone here thinks the b.net forum is a shithole and the people that post there are immature and idiotic.
Indeed. "LOL THERE'S NO PROBLEMS WITH ANY RACE L2P N00B"
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Popular opinion on TL also agrees with us, that it was a BAD idea for a great many reasons. Many of which were posted in a sane and intelligent manner.
There were dozens of other ways to solve the problem (which I agree is a problem on current BNet and WoW forums) and the Nuclear (Real ID) solution was dead last.
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Great news, not for the forums... but for the future of internet privacy
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Blizzard cares about their games, and cares about their fans, always my favorite company.
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Awesome! Glad that blizzard will change things if you back them into a wall
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On July 10 2010 05:38 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2010 05:13 Jayme wrote:On July 10 2010 02:16 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 10 2010 02:13 Kennigit wrote:On July 10 2010 02:12 kzn wrote: I want, so badly, to make a backpedaling joke here. Why? They saw the reaction, and the smart thing to do was decide implement this change. They made a big decision that they said they put a lot of thought into and then they changed their minds before trying it because a bunch of little kids whined. That's a bit of an arrogant post don't you think? That's pretty much saying that the only people that had an objection to this real ID thing were kids that had no clue what they were talking about...when frankly it seemed like the total opposite to me. You don't have to try something to know if it's going to be a train wreck waiting to happen and this was likely one of those things. There were some mature adults objecting to it but if you took away all the ignorant and whining kids, there wouldn't have been enough people objecting. The popular opinion on teamliquid.net agrees with me. Everyone here thinks the b.net forum is a shithole and the people that post there are immature and idiotic.
The arrogance astounds me.
You realize that the majority of people who post on there are assholes only because of lack of accountability right? And you somehow think that sacrificing people's personal security to generate that accountability was a good thing, instead of say, a simple unique identifier, which would have the exact same effect without having to sacrifice that security?
No, its just easier to think of it as an isolated problem with a forum full of whining babies and Blizzard have every right to start handing out people's personal info as a weapon to keep people being civil.
Having unique identifiers will clean things up and bring intelligent posters back.
Throwing out personal info will clean things up, but make many intelligent posters stay the hell away from it because they're not stupid enough to give out their real name over the internet to someone who might end up with a grudge against them.
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Very glad Blizzard backed down.
There can be no doubt whatsoever in my mind that those who opposed Blizzard’s plans won the argument on its merits: and won it handsomely.
I suspect though that that isn’t the reason why Blizzard reversed its decision: the hostile reaction and negative publicity was potentially threatening the bottom line, and that is always something that corporations will respond to.
However, all’s well that ends well - for now, at any rate. I suspect that the controversy surrounding Real Ids and how they are implemented will rear its ugly head again.
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On July 10 2010 05:57 Bibdy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2010 05:38 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 10 2010 05:13 Jayme wrote:On July 10 2010 02:16 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 10 2010 02:13 Kennigit wrote:On July 10 2010 02:12 kzn wrote: I want, so badly, to make a backpedaling joke here. Why? They saw the reaction, and the smart thing to do was decide implement this change. They made a big decision that they said they put a lot of thought into and then they changed their minds before trying it because a bunch of little kids whined. That's a bit of an arrogant post don't you think? That's pretty much saying that the only people that had an objection to this real ID thing were kids that had no clue what they were talking about...when frankly it seemed like the total opposite to me. You don't have to try something to know if it's going to be a train wreck waiting to happen and this was likely one of those things. There were some mature adults objecting to it but if you took away all the ignorant and whining kids, there wouldn't have been enough people objecting. The popular opinion on teamliquid.net agrees with me. Everyone here thinks the b.net forum is a shithole and the people that post there are immature and idiotic. The arrogance astounds me.
Its Nony, very arrogant indeed, but at least he will own you at Starcraft/2
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I guess its a step in the right direction, but I'm still not satisfied. Bring me cross realm play, and LAN then ill be a happy guy.
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On July 10 2010 05:38 Liquid`NonY wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 10 2010 05:13 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2010 02:16 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 10 2010 02:13 Kennigit wrote:On July 10 2010 02:12 kzn wrote: I want, so badly, to make a backpedaling joke here. Why? They saw the reaction, and the smart thing to do was decide implement this change. They made a big decision that they said they put a lot of thought into and then they changed their minds before trying it because a bunch of little kids whined. That's a bit of an arrogant post don't you think? That's pretty much saying that the only people that had an objection to this real ID thing were kids that had no clue what they were talking about...when frankly it seemed like the total opposite to me. You don't have to try something to know if it's going to be a train wreck waiting to happen and this was likely one of those things. There were some mature adults objecting to it but if you took away all the ignorant and whining kids, there wouldn't have been enough people objecting. The popular opinion on teamliquid.net agrees with me. Everyone here thinks the b.net forum is a shithole and the people that post there are immature and idiotic.
The lan/chat room/x-realm whinage that's been going on here on TL has in no way, shape or form been any more constructive or mature than the objections made to realID on the official forums.
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Well, it seems that Blizzard only understand if you stalk thier admin und "kill" their RL
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There were some mature adults objecting to it but if you took away all the ignorant and whining kids, there wouldn't have been enough people objecting.
The popular opinion on teamliquid.net agrees with me. Everyone here thinks the b.net forum is a shithole and the people that post there are immature and idiotic.
Seriously now? I'm a CS major, computers is what I do and anyone who knows what they are doing knows how foolish it is to give out personal information, even names, to people freely online. The changes wouldn't have actually done anything as people would have just made another Battle.net accounts under a fake name, I was going to. Of course the people who actually do use a real name on the other hand are opening themselves up to all sorts of harass from the people who are idiots and trolls. People do stupid, petty, crap for little to no reason. Look at what happened to bishiok for example.
The very small number of people who supported it are either ignorant of the internet or trolls. What is Ironic is just how immature your post is.
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YES WE CAN!
awesome that they listened :D
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On July 10 2010 05:38 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2010 05:13 Jayme wrote:On July 10 2010 02:16 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 10 2010 02:13 Kennigit wrote:On July 10 2010 02:12 kzn wrote: I want, so badly, to make a backpedaling joke here. Why? They saw the reaction, and the smart thing to do was decide implement this change. They made a big decision that they said they put a lot of thought into and then they changed their minds before trying it because a bunch of little kids whined. That's a bit of an arrogant post don't you think? That's pretty much saying that the only people that had an objection to this real ID thing were kids that had no clue what they were talking about...when frankly it seemed like the total opposite to me. You don't have to try something to know if it's going to be a train wreck waiting to happen and this was likely one of those things. There were some mature adults objecting to it but if you took away all the ignorant and whining kids, there wouldn't have been enough people objecting. The popular opinion on teamliquid.net agrees with me. Everyone here thinks the b.net forum is a shithole and the people that post there are immature and idiotic. The popular opinion on teamliquid.net was massively against the proposed changes. And you have no way of knowing what the distribution of opinion was between "ignorant and whining kids" and "mature adults;" you're assuming without evidence that all the mature adults were on your side and that only whiny little kids were against it... which is seriously, what the fuck?
hey look at all the whiny little kids
also 4038/4604 teamliquid users are whiny little kids
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Good to know Blizzard still has good judgment.
Hey can anyone upload the official blizzard maps from patch 16 in a map-pack? I cant make a topic sense I am new member
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On July 10 2010 02:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2010 02:16 Tone_ wrote: Awesome. Now let's re-start ultra-rage about cross-realm play and chat channels! Yeah, if you can get a bunch of major news organizations to report on the monumental disappointment of SC2 lacking chat channels and cross-realm play during beta, you might be onto something. Otherwise save your energy "save yor energy" for what? 'Realists' are correct 99 percent of the time, but activists are the only ones who get worthwhile stuff done. Man, you're cynical...
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