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On June 04 2010 10:47 pash1k wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke. You're right, every single person that thought that Terran mech was stronger than their options, and hence a little too strong was "some noob." Do people understand the point of nerfing/buffing? It's not <i>just</i> to get rid of strategies that are too strong in every single MU. It is just as important to balance the race internally - Blizzard has to <b>balance various strategies that a race might consider, and make them on a similar viability level.</b> If Terrans only go mech in every single MU (not saying that's happening), then even if the strategy is not "too strong" they still need to change it so that going bio won't put anyone at a huge disadvantage. This kind of internal balance is hard - they have to make more than one strat viable without messing up the TvX MU.
Yeah its a good point but going Bio Vs a Zerg who isn't retarded is a death wish sadly lol.
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On June 04 2010 10:39 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:38 Kindred wrote:
little off topic but what's QQ? (still trying to get in the whole SC lingo lol) That's not even sc lingo... that's lingo thats about as old as the internet itself. Crying eyes.
This is wrong.
It comes from ALT+QQ in WC2 an SC1 which was used to quit the game.
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Try to keep the changes in perspective; the hellion and thor changes really aren't that significant; they wont affect the gameplay at all until you get upgrades, and even then they'll only deal 1 damage less per upgrade against light units (for a maximum of 3 less damage overall), while still doing the exact same amount to non-light units.
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On June 04 2010 10:45 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke. Yeah just a bunch of noobs complained, it wasn't a list of good players or anything ..oh wait...
When it comes to Zerg it doesn't matter because the entire Zerg playerbase is as whiny as a bunch of children. They've whined since day 1 of the beta about EVERYTHING.
What is it that attracts these people to Zerg?
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On June 04 2010 10:45 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke. Yeah just a bunch of noobs complained, it wasn't a list of good players or anything ..oh wait...
Before mech was even hugely popular in us/eu Tester called it a joke unit because of how op it was. TESTER the top protoss in Asia and quite possibly the world
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On June 04 2010 10:49 Jimmeh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:39 PanN wrote:On June 04 2010 10:38 Kindred wrote:
little off topic but what's QQ? (still trying to get in the whole SC lingo lol) That's not even sc lingo... that's lingo thats about as old as the internet itself. Crying eyes. This is wrong. It comes from ALT+QQ in WC2 an SC1 which was used to quit the game.
thought it was from wc3...
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Lowering tank damage by 1/6? Seems excessive. Zerg players just didnt have enough time to come up with mainstream strategies to beat mech. I lost ALL THE TIME in TvZ to things like nydus worms, tunneling roaches, losing thors in a battle and zerg switches to muta, corrupter/broodlord, getting my army caught out of position, etc... but of course the race that started totally imba ends up getting what they want because their opinions of their own skill are inflated. And nerfing factory upgrades? wtf? I just don't get it.
And to top it all off, blizzard slaps terrans in the face by making up for massive nerfs with a decrease in cost of a useless upgrade. grrrr. They should make an upgrade that requires armory or something that makes reapers not completely useless after 5 minutes into the game.
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hellion OP! NERFNERF!
really just can lol at that . random kneejerk changes ftw!
srsly whatever.
dont think it will affect any of my matchups expect making roach/hydra 1a a bit stronger again in zvt.
and we all know 1a is the ultimate goal blizzard has for their casuzals in evry situation eh
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On June 04 2010 10:50 iEchoic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:45 PanN wrote:On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke. Yeah just a bunch of noobs complained, it wasn't a list of good players or anything ..oh wait... When it comes to Zerg it doesn't matter because the entire Zerg playerbase is as whiny as a bunch of children. They've whined since day 1 of the beta about EVERYTHING. What is it that attracts these people to Zerg?
Maybe you should think about stopping baiting people with your posts and contribute?
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On June 04 2010 10:48 GodIsNotHere wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:47 pash1k wrote:On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke. You're right, every single person that thought that Terran mech was stronger than their options, and hence a little too strong was "some noob." Do people understand the point of nerfing/buffing? It's not <i>just</i> to get rid of strategies that are too strong in every single MU. It is just as important to balance the race internally - Blizzard has to <b>balance various strategies that a race might consider, and make them on a similar viability level.</b> If Terrans only go mech in every single MU (not saying that's happening), then even if the strategy is not "too strong" they still need to change it so that going bio won't put anyone at a huge disadvantage. This kind of internal balance is hard - they have to make more than one strat viable without messing up the TvX MU. Yeah its a good point but going Bio Vs a Zerg who isn't retarded is a death wish sadly lol.
And how is this a bad thing?
You mean you have to change your build according to the race your playing?
Gosh.
Racial differences?
Gee.
I don't get the bitching here or the defending of the idea.
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On June 04 2010 10:53 pash1k wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:50 iEchoic wrote:On June 04 2010 10:45 PanN wrote:On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke. Yeah just a bunch of noobs complained, it wasn't a list of good players or anything ..oh wait... When it comes to Zerg it doesn't matter because the entire Zerg playerbase is as whiny as a bunch of children. They've whined since day 1 of the beta about EVERYTHING. What is it that attracts these people to Zerg? Maybe you should think about stopping baiting people with your posts and contribute?
There is about 4 threads whining about Mech at all times.
Do you tell those people to stop baiting and contribute?
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On June 04 2010 09:02 SirNeb wrote:
not sure about the siege tanks nerf, was it really a problem?
Yeah. It was.
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On June 04 2010 10:09 avilo wrote:This is the first patch out of 15 patches that is pretty bad on blizzard's part. They gave in to bnet forum whining + some whining here instead of waiting to see what developed. Same thing happened with the command and conquer community, players whined horribly for things that really were not imbalanced and EA gave it to them, and look where cnc ended up  sighs.
LOL, that's because it's the first patch out of 15 where Terran has been nerfed. Cry more plz.
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50/50 cost upgrades are pretty stupid for a strong ability like nitro packs.
tank nerf seems good.
not sure what effect hellion / broodlord upgrade changes wil do.
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On June 04 2010 10:54 iEchoic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:53 pash1k wrote:On June 04 2010 10:50 iEchoic wrote:On June 04 2010 10:45 PanN wrote:On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke. Yeah just a bunch of noobs complained, it wasn't a list of good players or anything ..oh wait... When it comes to Zerg it doesn't matter because the entire Zerg playerbase is as whiny as a bunch of children. They've whined since day 1 of the beta about EVERYTHING. What is it that attracts these people to Zerg? Maybe you should think about stopping baiting people with your posts and contribute? There is about 4 threads whining about Mech at all times. Do you tell those people to stop baiting and contribute?
Just because other people do something never justifies you to do the same. Be the bigger man/woman. The way to solve "zerg whining about everything in the world" isn't to whine, nor is it to bait people with your posts.
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On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke.
Its not just about TvZ....TvT is also one dimensional because tanks eliminate any other possible ground unit, including "tank" units like Rauders and Thors. When a unit makes a match so "obvious", that unit is probably a little OP.
That being said, this change isn't significant enough to change anything really, because tanks still splash such a huge portion of most units HP.
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terran nerfs????
the rapture is beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On June 04 2010 10:54 iEchoic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2010 10:53 pash1k wrote:On June 04 2010 10:50 iEchoic wrote:On June 04 2010 10:45 PanN wrote:On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke. Yeah just a bunch of noobs complained, it wasn't a list of good players or anything ..oh wait... When it comes to Zerg it doesn't matter because the entire Zerg playerbase is as whiny as a bunch of children. They've whined since day 1 of the beta about EVERYTHING. What is it that attracts these people to Zerg? Maybe you should think about stopping baiting people with your posts and contribute? There is about 4 threads whining about Mech at all times. Do you tell those people to stop baiting and contribute?
those thread were filled with people disagreeing and TLO as the only T/Z player saying its fine.
wat?
really i think blizz really did something way too fast (2-3 weeks give players a chance to adapt! ohwait...") but watheveer. let them do the qq related "balance". they did in for all races and now its apparently Ts turn to get the "lol we dunno lets just do something " nerf. :>
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You people going at each other remind me of the xbox/ps3 fanboys on sites like gametrailers.com where they rage at each other just because they prefer one console to the other
sad
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