EPTMe and a friend were playing on an account and he was 5-7 in Gold league. I went 15-1 on that account before they promoted us to Platinum. I was on a 10 game winning streak and still surprised they didn't promote us yet.
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RawrAnOcean
United States359 Posts
Me and a friend were playing on an account and he was 5-7 in Gold league. I went 15-1 on that account before they promoted us to Platinum. I was on a 10 game winning streak and still surprised they didn't promote us yet. | ||
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AeTheReal
United States108 Posts
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Kerm
France467 Posts
On April 30 2010 07:26 EximoSua2 wrote: I'm pretty sure you're missing the point. The point of the leagues is that if you have Platinum level skills, then you will be quickly placed in platinum. Copper league players with copper league skills will stay in the copper league. The fact that you moved up to Platinum after throwing your placement matches so quickly is a testament that the system is working correctly. Gotta agree with this. Another interesting question would be : do peoplego DOWN in league, like being placed in gold and by losing going back to silver ? Not sure if anyone around here will testify on this :p -Kerm | ||
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zealing
Canada806 Posts
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vlaric
United States412 Posts
Anyway, my experiences with the AMM have churned out similar results. I deliberately went into a Copper 2v2 league (mass ravens in all placement matches lol) and after I went about 3-0 all of my opponents have been Silver or higher 2v2. I'm going to see how much an impact a losing streak has on the opponents that I am pitted against and how long it takes to demotion when I have the time. EDIT: Sorry, was referring to micropede for the 'troll' statement. Didn't notice that much time had passed between my beginning the post and its finish. | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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flextra
United States22 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
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Starfox
Austria699 Posts
On April 26 2010 06:11 Titanidis wrote: (note: before reset i was 1500+ platinum zerg after 300+ games) I think SC2 rating is quite the same as WoW Arena Ratings: Every player has an additional hidden rating, which gets effected by every rated game. It skews you rating towards your hidden rating: hidden > shown + win => You get more points to get to the region you should be This helps to get ladders back into order after resets etc. has a few more features in WoW to prevent things like a top PvP player teams up with a new player in 2v2 league and just farms that new one to the highest rating so he can buy all items. | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
On May 03 2010 22:34 Kerm wrote: Gotta agree with this. Another interesting question would be : do peoplego DOWN in league, like being placed in gold and by losing going back to silver ? Not sure if anyone around here will testify on this :p -Kerm It is possible to be demoted. | ||
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Kokosaft
Germany172 Posts
On April 30 2010 07:52 Spidermonkey wrote: I went from Plat to Gold after winning so I guess it works both ways. I was on a horrible losing streak pre last reset and was sitting on the bottom of Plat. Finally won and was like yea, it's turning around, then I get the message that I'm being demoted to Gold. Didn't make sense. it does: you lose a lot to plat players => hidden rating goes down => you start playing against gold players => lose some,win some => so game thinks youre better in gold than in plat because youre doing better (logically) vs weaker opponents (: ofc i dont know how it works exactly, but getting demoted after winning vs some lower-league-guy could make sense :D | ||
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kungfu
United States30 Posts
I think the AMM must use some kind of system like TrueSkill. Where you have both a skill and uncertainty ranking tied to your account. | ||
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zomgzergrush
United States923 Posts
I, too, noticed that after dropping in one of my placement matches, ranking from gold to plat was really quick. Only a few games needed. IMO league placement/advancement is quite accurate. Even though they're missing a league or two above plat, what they have currently implemented is quite accurate. | ||
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Smurfa
Bulgaria11 Posts
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Cyrus_00
28 Posts
Put me in gold alrdy >-< | ||
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kYem
United Kingdom412 Posts
On May 04 2010 04:40 Kokosaft wrote: it does: you lose a lot to plat players => hidden rating goes down => you start playing against gold players => lose some,win some => so game thinks youre better in gold than in plat because youre doing better (logically) vs weaker opponents (: ofc i dont know how it works exactly, but getting demoted after winning vs some lower-league-guy could make sense :D I actually was promoted to gold after losing a game, same thing happened with paltinium  i was like 5-0, then lost and got promoted. | ||
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Tippany
United States765 Posts
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
On May 04 2010 05:25 Cyrus_00 wrote: Well i wish i could understand how this promotion works....been 2 days nº1 in silver and am constantly playing vs gold/plat where i win 50/50. Whats the point in being in a silver league if i play against top gold???? Put me in gold alrdy >-< Someone has to be number one silver. Edit: if not you, then someone else will have the same problem. I think this type of thing will fix itself to some degree though once the skill levels start to really differentiate. In BW an A player will almost always beat a B player who will almost always beat a C player who will almost always beat a D player. It seems in SC2 that the ranks below platinum are quite a bit closer than that, and as a result you have top silver players who are just as good as any gold player. | ||
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zomgzergrush
United States923 Posts
On May 04 2010 05:25 Cyrus_00 wrote: Well i wish i could understand how this promotion works....been 2 days nº1 in silver and am constantly playing vs gold/plat where i win 50/50. Whats the point in being in a silver league if i play against top gold???? Put me in gold alrdy >-< Winning 50/50 isn't good enough I'm almost positive. If you're clearly beating (much higher than 50%) the lower spectrum of the next league without trouble, THEN it promotes you. If you clearly don't belong in a league it will move you. Otherwise, if you're going 50/50, you're exactly where you need to be. Being in the top of a league is SUPPOSED to match you with the lower portion of the next league. In the end, it's putting you where you end up winning 50% of your matches. | ||
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Cyrus_00
28 Posts
On May 04 2010 06:20 zomgzergrush wrote: Winning 50/50 isn't good enough I'm almost positive. If you're clearly beating (much higher than 50%) the lower spectrum of the next league without trouble, THEN it promotes you. If you clearly don't belong in a league it will move you. Otherwise, if you're going 50/50, you're exactly where you need to be. Being in the top of a league is SUPPOSED to match you with the lower portion of the next league. In the end, it's putting you where you end up winning 50% of your matches. I understand this but I am winning half of the games vs the top 10 gold players..all other silvers and low lvl golds i dnt seem to have a problem with. My last 3 matches were 3 gold, out of which 2 where ranked 8 and 6 and. What i mean is if im silver i should be playing mainly silver opponents right? I might play 1 our of every 5, rest are gold and not bottom half, it just seems too random! | ||
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