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LuDwig-

Italy1143 Posts

April 18 2010 12:26 GMT

#1081

pheraps they will do it

not

ComradeDover

Bulgaria758 Posts

April 18 2010 12:33 GMT

#1082

On April 18 2010 19:51 3FFA wrote:

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Thx for the luck. I'm still considering being crossed out too but I gonna wait 8-10 more hours to really make my final decision.

Aren't you the guy with the Mac? If you do end up getting it, you won't be able to use it because there is no beta client for Mac systems. in 8-10 more hours, there still isn't going to be beta for Macs. What's there to think about?

ItsPaul

Australia177 Posts

April 18 2010 12:42 GMT

#1083

I'm choosing to opt out. I stand by my self nomination, as it was stated in the original thread you could nominate yourself, and to me this was about getting a key to a game I really want to play and a franchise I love.

If TL set this whole thing up to reward those hardcore contributors to the site, and not for the general community (there is a difference between the two btw, and you can be a member without being a mass contributor, otherwise this place would be a 4chan of spam rather than have worthwhile threads) they should have just upfront announced a 'nominate your favourite contributors' section, or even put a list up of top contributors and a request for us to vote for who we appreciate the most.

I know personally I would have completely been up for voting for dudes like Kona and fuddx, and in most cases of those kinds of people I actually assumed they would have already been hooked up by TL lol. At the end of the day, those who look down on me for seeing an opportunity to try and win a key to a video game need to relax. Those people who are bringing absolute hate to lurkers and semi-noobs need to realise how fast this site has grown and how quickly, and that this site is more than what it used to be. I come here for news, I come here for a quick lol at some peoples threads, and to check out blogs depending on the title etc etc, and thats all aside from the SC shit I check out here.

There have been some heavy contributors that I expected better from in this thread, and in the related threads. People need to stop hating on casual fans, who come here but don't dedicate hours on end to getting involved with the website. I love this site and respect the admins, but I don't owe anyone anything beyond what I presume to give, if people want it otherwise the site should be changed to pay per view, to keep all us casual fans out.

gl to those still in and gl to me getting a key in the next wave

Tin_Foil

United States243 Posts

April 18 2010 12:50 GMT

#1084

Well, I'm glad I was taken out of here since I didn't nominate myself.

d4d

Switzerland1066 Posts

April 18 2010 12:52 GMT

#1085

I would like to be crossed out.

Oh, wait...

[GiTM]-Ace

United States4935 Posts

April 18 2010 12:59 GMT

#1086

A lot of people opted out. I think they have a chance!

silentguy

99 Posts

April 18 2010 13:07 GMT

#1087

On April 18 2010 21:59 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
A lot of people opted out. I think they have a chance!

The majority of opted out people are the people who did not reply to this tread.... so we don't really know.

BlackD1amond

Slovakia3 Posts

April 18 2010 13:07 GMT

#1088

I want key too

Protoss

NightOfTheDead

Lithuania1711 Posts

April 18 2010 13:09 GMT

#1089

On April 18 2010 20:00 Pholon wrote:
. You didn't have a key, you were at no point going to get one and you, in the future, are not going to get one.

This thread isnt anymore IF someone is going to get a key or not, it's became about how people react in this situation, as initially it is staged as entertainment. However, the beta WILL be over soon, and it wont matter who has a key or not (everybody will have their chance at sc2) but what will matter is how people behaved (of course, it goes both ways, the self nominators/newcomers/veterans)

BlackD1amond

Slovakia3 Posts

April 18 2010 13:12 GMT

#1090

Oooo I'm newcomer how can I get key? to beta?

TheAntZ

Israel6248 Posts

April 18 2010 13:25 GMT

#1091

GoodCat1 was also temp banned, will his name be crossed out?

Hot_Bid

Braavos36402 Posts

April 18 2010 13:31 GMT

#1092

On April 18 2010 22:25 TheAntZ wrote:
GoodCat1 was also temp banned, will his name be crossed out?

Ah, I missed that. Thanks for letting me know. Yes he will be eliminated too.

TheAntZ

Israel6248 Posts

April 18 2010 13:38 GMT

#1093

On April 18 2010 22:31 Hot_Bid wrote:

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Ah, I missed that. Thanks for letting me know. Yes he will be eliminated too.

*fistpump* hell yeah

Gunvor_85

Sweden3 Posts

April 18 2010 13:40 GMT

#1094

On April 18 2010 21:10 Hot_Bid wrote:

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You guys were automatically eliminated for not responding.

OP updated, 57 users left with 17 hours remaining.

edit: I just realized [ADT]-FaZiNaTe-[GeR] was banned for two days so he won't be able to post in the final two hours, so he has automatically been removed as well.

Thank you for the quick response

, shame i couldn't be at my PC when the message was sent out.

Again thanks for this opportunity and Congratiulations to whoever the winners are going to be

Goshawk.

United Kingdom5338 Posts

April 18 2010 14:07 GMT

#1095

Haha wow. This thread is funny, but so harsh. I really doubt enough people will drop out though, cos a lot of first time posters and never gonna check this thread to reply.

CoL_FanTaSy

Germany3 Posts

April 18 2010 14:15 GMT

#1096

i nominate myself :o

7mk

Germany10157 Posts

April 18 2010 14:23 GMT

#1097

On April 18 2010 23:15 CoL_FanTaSy wrote:
i nominate myself :o

Ahh CoL-members, constantly showing their intelligence

Cheree

Canada123 Posts

April 18 2010 14:33 GMT

#1098

On April 18 2010 16:00 flamewheel91 wrote:

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On April 18 2010 08:54 Cheree wrote:

On April 18 2010 08:42 phlamez wrote:
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On April 18 2010 08:27 Cheree wrote:

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On April 18 2010 08:09 phlamez wrote:

On April 18 2010 08:02 Cheree wrote:

On April 18 2010 07:56 phlamez wrote:
Some food for thought. Imagine you're on a lifeboat with a maximum capacity of 30 people and currently there are 60. You have to self opt yourselves to drown in order to save others and if none of you choose to do so you'll all drown. Do you want to do nothing and hope that other people are better human beings than you or take responsibility over your own fate and do something that might actually matter.

Once again someone with a bad analogy. The keys won't be destroyed if people don't opt out. People won't drown if people don't sacrifice themselves. They'll just find a better way of deciding who gets the keys/lifeboat seat. Wanting this contest to fail is the best course of action imo, cause the process of determining who gets a key is fucked up and doesn't even match with the intention of picking who's the most deserving.

Read the entire post before commenting.
1. Its an analogy, are you serious? People won't drown if they don't opt out of this contest? Really? I had no idea when I suggested that the situation would be similar that no one was drowning in this contest. My bad.
2. The intentions do match up, the intention has always been to promote community, initially this was through rewarding those who have contributed to this community, now its through demonstrating that when it comes down to it we can still behave as a community and be truly happy for others in this community to have keys.
3. Read my original post, the keys may not be destroyed if the people don't opt out, but our sense of community will certainly take a hit. Maybe I'm the only person who feels this way but I will certainly think a lot less of TL and of the people belonging to it if the people in this thread can't look beyond their own self interests.
4. You don't seem to get that the situation has changed, it's not simply a question of who gets keys anymore, its about how people behave when presented with this situation. The beta isn't going to last forever, everyone will get to play the game at some point, who gets or who doesn't get a key will have little impact, how you all behave today will have a much more lasting impression.

About 1, you were the one who brought up the analogy where drowning would be the equivalent of no one wins, when in fact that is not the case. If no one wins, the keys will be distributed again.
2. The intention was to give people who are most deserving the key. People have various reasons for staying or opting out, not necessarily because they want to promote community. If there's one bad apple, which there is bound to be, the whole intention of the contest goes tits up.
3. The contest was designed to fail from the start, I don't see how you could expect it to succeed. In the perfect world, those who dont think they deserve the key would step down in favor of those who do. In reality, that's not true. So even if this contest ends up with winners, they won't be the most deserving like intended and leave a bad taste in the mouths of those who were more deserving than them.
4. In the long run, it will have little impact. TL has a chance of showing what kind of community they promote, yet this contest is pitting people against eachother and those who are selfless are not the ones being rewarded if this contest succeeds.

1. I was being sarcastic, my point was that analogies aren't supposed to be 1 to 1.
2. Implicit in the idea of giving people who are most deserving of the key is the idea of community. You have control over your intentions and the intentions of others aren't an excuse to not act.
3. This is ridiculously jaded, and I don't believe for a second that hotbid designed this contest to fail.

This 'test' puts too much faith in the community. HotBid is being incredibly naive if he thinks the community will sort itself out, especially if the community is composed of new members who just registered and have low attachment to TL, and they have the same say as everyone else.

You could have someone staying in the contest...
..because they truly believe they deserve it over someone else
..because they're an ass
..because they want to prevent that ass from getting a key
..because they have no faith in the design and want to see the keys handed out a better way
...

You could have someone opting out cause...
...they feel they're undeserving compared to the rest.
...they want to appear to be selfless to the community, regarldless if they are or not.
...they didn't check the forums
...they think opt-outers will win despite what HB says since he's made up rules on the fly
...

Basically, whether or not this contest has winners is not telling of a good community. I personally rather see this contest fail.

Bolding by me. As far back as I can remember, a community generally entails people working together and benefiting for some greater collective cause. How are people that don't have any vested interest in said cause part of the community? Hot_Bid has been more than fair for this entire thing, and everybody hating on him needs to rethink what they have said, since he's been a very gracious host through all of this.

There is no greater cause here. No one has to work together in this fake contest because whether it succeeds or fails, the same number of keys will be distributed regardless, either in this contest or the next.