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I'd like to add my two cents:
Fuck Kespa. Kespa is an evil organization run by fucking idiots.
Seriously, I know I should act as a "good example" to newer members by writing a long, insightful post about why I dislike the actions by Kespa and what they can do to fix it. However, I have such a negative emotional reaction that I'm going to leave it as is, unadulterated by calm logic.
Again, fuck Kespa.
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day[9] you should cast the usa vs korea, thanks
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I know blizzard is very tedious about quality - but as far as these objections go, couldn't they be fixed bluntly and then adjusted in a future patch...
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On April 17 2010 08:47 PianoMan wrote: Your post displays a shocking lack of comprehension of how the world works. There is no possible way that Kespa has in any sense legal rights over BW. At the most they are allowed to broadcast it (even though technically I don't think they're supposed to be allowed to), but there's absolutely no possible way anyone could imagine they have rights over BW.
How are they "bullying Kespa of their hard earned money"? It's incredibly standard to take a fee for things like this. They simply don't want Kespa leeching off something they put years and millions of dollars into developing. Kespa therefore turns to corruption and bribery (most likely, although it could just be simple Korean racism) in order to fuck Blizzard out of their hard-earned money.
Blizzard did invest money in GOM. Kespa again shut them down. Honestly, Kespa is just a corrupt organization that takes advantage of their privileged position to get a monopoly on Esports in Korea in any way they can. Esports would be much better off if they went away.
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No looks like you have no idea how the world works. Money rules the world. Kespa and Blizzard "fight" for the money. Kespa rules over BW in Korea because as I said they got every LEGAL right over BW because they bought the license from Blizzard for like no money like 10 years ago.
Now SC2 on the other hand Blizzard got every legal rights for it and demanding big cash for television broadcasting rights and Kespa is saying fuck off. Yea Kespa is a dick and its not fair but nothing in this world is fair. Corruption is everywhere nothing surprizing there too.
So yea in a ideal world Blizzard would kick Kespa ass but we are living on Earth right now.
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You do realize Blizzard can take that license back for whatever reason they desire.
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On April 17 2010 09:00 Day[9] wrote: I'd like to add my two cents:
Fuck Kespa. Kespa is an evil organization run by fucking idiots.
Seriously, I know I should act as a "good example" to newer members by writing a long, insightful post about why I dislike the actions by Kespa and what they can do to fix it. However, I have such a negative emotional reaction that I'm going to leave it as is, unadulterated by calm logic.
Again, fuck Kespa.
Eloquent as ever.
This is what happens when you deal with an international scene. This kind of stuff can and will never occur in the US. I just wish we had enough of a fanbase in the US to make esports a big thing. But if something as retarded as Nascar can work in America, someone will figure out how to make SC2 work =D
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On April 17 2010 09:03 SkelA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2010 08:47 PianoMan wrote: Your post displays a shocking lack of comprehension of how the world works. There is no possible way that Kespa has in any sense legal rights over BW. At the most they are allowed to broadcast it (even though technically I don't think they're supposed to be allowed to), but there's absolutely no possible way anyone could imagine they have rights over BW.
How are they "bullying Kespa of their hard earned money"? It's incredibly standard to take a fee for things like this. They simply don't want Kespa leeching off something they put years and millions of dollars into developing. Kespa therefore turns to corruption and bribery (most likely, although it could just be simple Korean racism) in order to fuck Blizzard out of their hard-earned money.
Blizzard did invest money in GOM. Kespa again shut them down. Honestly, Kespa is just a corrupt organization that takes advantage of their privileged position to get a monopoly on Esports in Korea in any way they can. Esports would be much better off if they went away.
P i a n o M a n
No looks like you have no idea how the world works. Money rules the world. Kespa and Blizzard "fight" for the money. Kespa rules over BW in Korea because as I said they got every LEGAL right over BW because they bought the license from Blizzard for like no money like 10 years ago. Now SC2 on the other hand Blizzard got every legal rights for it and demanding big cash for television broadcasting rights and Kespa is saying fuck off. Yea Kespa is a dick and its not fair but nothing in this world is fair. Corruption is everywhere nothing surprizing there too. So yea in a ideal world Blizzard would kick Kespa ass but we are living on Earth right now. So from your post, you believe the world is corrupted and we should accept the corrupt world as it is. If everyone as the mentality as you do, then it would be a very scary world today.
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On April 17 2010 09:02 OuCH. wrote: day[9] you should cast the usa vs korea, thanks
Is anyone associated with TL going to cast that?
The guy casting the stream on Justin.TV this morning had no idea about how anything worked in SC2, he was a WC3 commentator and much more comfortable with that game.
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On April 17 2010 09:03 gogogadgetflow wrote: I know blizzard is very tedious about quality - but as far as these objections go, couldn't they be fixed bluntly and then adjusted in a future patch...
This have nothing to do about content. Even if they changed all units to pink unicorns and removed the ability to attack, KeSPA could still make sure it didn't get anything lower than adult rating.
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Piano this has almost certainly been brought up or parodied before but could you mayb not sign every post P i a n o M a n it's just offputting 
There have been so many times on reading TL that I have thought "Kespa are scum" that this thread//news doesn't suprise me one bit.
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Blizzard won't play their game. I doubt it. I think if Blizzard has to say "screw Korea" at one point they will do it. Even if BW was "THE SHIT" in Korea, SC2 is a new beginning and Korea or no Korea, SC2 will be big.
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This is getting ridiculous, if they give starcraft 2 A/O rating, What about the current Starcraft? Would proleague, osl, and etc. be restricted to only adult audience? Would they stop the minor from playing starcraft as well? HELL NO! because they making so much money off it. I'm just so damn angry right now because starcraft 2 has so much potential as an e-sport and being held back/delay by greedy ass big corp.
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On April 17 2010 09:00 Day[9] wrote: I'd like to add my two cents:
Fuck Kespa. Kespa is an evil organization run by fucking idiots.
Seriously, I know I should act as a "good example" to newer members by writing a long, insightful post about why I dislike the actions by Kespa and what they can do to fix it. However, I have such a negative emotional reaction that I'm going to leave it as is, unadulterated by calm logic.
Again, fuck Kespa.
Totally agree, and your post at least is a bit better than people who just say "lol". Day[9] showing again he is a cool dude who knows stuff well.
On April 17 2010 09:03 SkelA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2010 08:47 PianoMan wrote: Your post displays a shocking lack of comprehension of how the world works. There is no possible way that Kespa has in any sense legal rights over BW. At the most they are allowed to broadcast it (even though technically I don't think they're supposed to be allowed to), but there's absolutely no possible way anyone could imagine they have rights over BW.
How are they "bullying Kespa of their hard earned money"? It's incredibly standard to take a fee for things like this. They simply don't want Kespa leeching off something they put years and millions of dollars into developing. Kespa therefore turns to corruption and bribery (most likely, although it could just be simple Korean racism) in order to fuck Blizzard out of their hard-earned money.
Blizzard did invest money in GOM. Kespa again shut them down. Honestly, Kespa is just a corrupt organization that takes advantage of their privileged position to get a monopoly on Esports in Korea in any way they can. Esports would be much better off if they went away.
P i a n o M a n
No looks like you have no idea how the world works. Money rules the world. Kespa and Blizzard "fight" for the money. Kespa rules over BW in Korea because as I said they got every LEGAL right over BW because they bought the license from Blizzard for like no money like 10 years ago. Now SC2 on the other hand Blizzard got every legal rights for it and demanding big cash for television broadcasting rights and Kespa is saying fuck off. Yea Kespa is a dick and its not fair but nothing in this world is fair. Corruption is everywhere nothing surprizing there too. So yea in a ideal world Blizzard would kick Kespa ass but we are living on Earth right now. You're an idiot--obviously it's all about money, how did you misinterpret my post so much to make you think I thought it was about something other than money? (and what else could I possibly think it was about?!).
I looked it up in some vague googling sense (not exactly easy to check the actual true legal status of this stuff in Korea), and perhaps Kespa does indeed have broadcasting rights for BW, but that's not remotely the point here since I don't think anyone really thinks that SC2 is the same game as BW.
Blizzard has a perfect right to demand a fee for broadcasting their game, and Kespa has a perfect right to deny to pay that fee (and thus not broadcast it). They do not, however, have a right to corruptly affect the government so that others cannot choose to pay the fee and broadcast the game, as they are trying to do.
Kespa is like a bunch of kids, and if they can't have it their way, they'll just ensure no one else can either.
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Hahahaha, what are they thinking?
Sounds like reducing the drinking age in the US. On the other hand, maybe Brood War gets a bump?
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KeSpa is really good at creating trouble. Since a lot of new members are joining these days: Usually you shouldn't post oneliners or equal dumb things, but there's just not more I want to mention concerning KeSpa.
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Swwweeeet cold korean kespaish revenge at blizz lolz
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P i a n o M a n why do you start with the insults did i insulted you till now. If you have nothing else smart to say then dont say anything at all
So you called me Idiot and after somewhat saying that im right. Im kinda confused right now
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On April 17 2010 09:17 G.s)NarutO wrote: KeSpa is really good at creating trouble. Since a lot of new members are joining these days: Usually you shouldn't post oneliners or equal dumb things, but there's just not more I want to mention concerning KeSpa.
here a one liner, KeSpa can suck on my balls.
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On April 17 2010 08:41 Alexc26 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2010 07:15 Kralic wrote: Blizzard will just do what the UK had to do for some violent games, turn the blood green, take out swear words and put in a subliminal flash that goes across the screen that says "Kespa is always right." Then Kespa might approve of it and slap on the E rating. What games would that be ? Lol, I don't think we have ever had violent games toned down :S
Carmageddon is one of the games that I remember.
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