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On April 17 2010 09:22 SkelA wrote:
P i a n o M a n why do you start with the insults did i insulted you till now. If you have nothing else smart to say then dont say anything at all
So you called me Idiot and after somewhat saying that im right. Im kinda confused right now
I called you an idiot because you told me I had no idea how the world works, then said the world works in a way that was completely in line with what I had said in my post.
Your response to me wasn't that wrong from describing the situation in Korea, as you just essentially said it was about money and there is corruption (which I never disputed). The part that was idiotic was your original post that I responded to.
I said that perhaps you are right about them being allowed to broadcast BW (which was a tangent unrelated to the topic anyway), but I never said you are kind of right about other things.
By the way, originally you said Its Blizzard fault because they wanna meddle in Kespa affairs . And in response to me, you said So yea in a ideal world Blizzard would kick Kespa ass but we are living on Earth right now. , which is pretty radically different.
I do agree with your last sentence, however.
P i a n o M a n
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A lot of stuff kespa does sucks but I'm not sure why they are being implicated here. It's pretty common for ratings boards to be full of old people that lag behind the times. Happens with movies all the time in the US/Canada and I imagine it could be very similar in Korea. Is there anything that ties this to kespa besides the OP wondering "or is it a move initiated by KeSPA"?
Kespa sucks.
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I hate rating boards and censorship. Nothing good ever comes from it.
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what a lot of you dont seem to get is that this action doesnt affect evil greedy blizzard, but the fans and players of starcraft in korea and maybe around the world (because we miss out on game evolution by progamers maybe).
Blizzards money comes from sales alone, and people will buy the game sooner or later, what this action is trying to achieve is destroying the fanbase of sc2 in korea by letting them wait much longer for the release than the rest of the world.
I doubt it will really work though.
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On April 17 2010 09:28 Mastermind wrote:
I hate rating boards and censorship. Nothing good ever comes from it.
this
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On April 17 2010 09:26 GogoKodo wrote:
A lot of stuff kespa does sucks but I'm not sure why they are being implicated here. It's pretty common for ratings boards to be full of old people that lag behind the times. Happens with movies all the time in the US/Canada and I imagine it could be very similar in Korea. Is there anything that ties this to kespa besides the OP wondering "or is it a move initiated by KeSPA"?
Kespa sucks.
sure, but since Brood War is kind of the national sport of Korea and (at least in my opinion) more violent etc than sc2 it's a really weird decision
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kerrigan and raynor have sex?
that was a good map
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wow imagine flash with his skill level not being to play starcraft a few years ago because he is underage
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On April 17 2010 09:32 semantics wrote:
kerrigan and raynor have sex?
that was a good map
Pre-tentacles or Post Tentacles? I am sure pre would be wrong in many politicians books. 
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Thank god. This was clearly necessary to prevent  Flash from beating SCII already.
edit: Dang. Think how this will impact the PC bangs.
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Very clever play by Kespa. Blizzards last high aggression move of giving all PC Bangs copies of the game has just been countered perfectly. The Blizzard/Kespa meta-game is amazing. lol.
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Couldn't the Korean SC2 fan send a signed petition to the government to change this ridiculous decision? If there's enough people upset about this, the government would have to yield. I mean, it's just a game after all, would it be worth risking votes?
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seriously, there are games that are worse than sc2. they're such babies
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On April 17 2010 08:47 PianoMan wrote:
Your post displays a shocking lack of comprehension of how the world works.
There is no possible way that Kespa has in any sense legal rights over BW. At the most they are allowed to broadcast it (even though technically I don't think they're supposed to be allowed to), but there's absolutely no possible way anyone could imagine they have rights over BW.
You talk about something you have no understanding and i just point out it to you that you are wrong.So you got nothing else to say and start with the insults gj,
Some of my responses are little biased towards Kespa because lets face it BW is(was) still alive only because of korean progaming.If only Blizzard was in command we would still play lost temple for 10 years like war3. I already said that Blizzard are the good guys and Kespa are the evil SC2 hatin organisation
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What people forget is that Korea is a very young democracy. Hell, it's still illegal to criticize the government.
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On April 17 2010 09:34 Kralic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2010 09:32 semantics wrote:
kerrigan and raynor have sex?
that was a good map Pre-tentacles or Post Tentacles? I am sure pre would be wrong in many politicians books.
ionno but it's a great map abusing the stock sounds esp the medic ding for an orgasm lol not very good on the visuals just units shaking back and forth but still hilarious.
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How does this work?
Is it only for "sale" purposes or will this effect the beta? Just sounds like SC2 will have a longer open beta period in korea if this happens.
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Looks like KeSPA posted their April Fools a little late this year. Seriously, this is an absolute joke. It is going to be devastating to Blizzard in the short-term. Sure, a lot of parents will buy it for their kids, especially as the generation of current progammers takes the helm, but for kids with non-gammer educated parents, this will be an insurmountable obstacle. I know that my parents wouldn't buy WC3 for me with its T rating when I was about 13 or 14, and I needed my brother to go out and but D2 for me, but with an AO rating on SC2, this will seriously hurt sales in Korea.
Over time it will find it's way into the hands of every gamer who wants a copy of the game, but it will probably take months if not longer to bypass this stupid move my KeSPA. Blizzard had better get their objection up in the next week so they have time to negotiate with these fools to bring it back to a reasonable rating.
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this reeks of kespa meddlings, which sucks...
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On April 17 2010 08:31 SkelA wrote:
Its Blizzard fault because they wanna meddle in Kespa affairs. Kespa just reacts in really defensive way making Blizzard lose big profits in Korea. Kespa by definition is Korean e-Sports Players Association so they care only about Korea and think they got legal rights over BW because they got license from Blizzard long time ago so Blizzard cant do shit about BW progaming.
I say leave Kespa alone they provide us great entertaiment and yea they treat their players really bad but i dont really care about that as long there is tons of great games to be watched . Even if they manage some agreement about SC2 progaming in Korea i wont watch the games because honestly SC2 is not entertaining to watch like BW.
If Blizzard wanna develop esports around the world let them make their own association for example Bespa ( Blizzard e-Sports Players Association ) or something similar to that if they really cared about esports which i really doubt it. Invest 0.1% of your multibillion wow industry cash machine for SC2 progaming but no they want free money bullying Kepsa of their hard earned money.
The decision is preety "stupid" considering BW is basicly the same but when politics and money are involved everything is possible. Lets see what comes next this is preety entertaining to me its like watching 2 children fighting for a toy.
"Honestly, SC2 is more entertaining to watch than BW" That's my opinion, and I also think Korean will miss out on SC2 because of this feud.
Blizzard has every right to get their hand in the Starcraft 2 esport, because it is their intellectual proprety. They aren't bullying Kespa, it's Kespa being stuborn like a child. I wouldn't mind if Blizzard started their own ESPORT league, like they've tried in the past, but Kespa is very defensive. Kespa won't allow anyone to compete with them in Korea.
This rating of SC2 is not fair. Kespa should be ashamed.
The SC2 fan in Korean should place a complaint.
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