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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
November 03 2012 18:34 GMT
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 03 2012 18:38 GMT
#2
They might use real seconds instead of blizzard time, but even then that number is higher than it should be.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
November 03 2012 18:39 GMT
#3
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
November 03 2012 18:40 GMT
#4
^ Probably has something to do with real seconds instead of Blizzard seconds. But yeah, even then it looks like it might be a little buggy. Wouldn't be the first time Blizzard made something awkward and buggy.....
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
November 03 2012 18:42 GMT
#5
You might want to report this as a glitch on the BNet forums. Even if it is just using real seconds, that's not the way it should be.

I'm more curious about Supply Efficiency, because it seems that SQ is made invalid unless you view the income tab in the replay.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 03 2012 18:43 GMT
#6
Perhaps it is max APM? But then again, early-game spamming might raise the APM to be higher than that value.
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 18:46:17
November 03 2012 18:44 GMT
#7
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GrassEater
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden417 Posts
November 03 2012 18:47 GMT
#8
They probably count every key pressed in real time, not every usefull command in blizzard time
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
November 03 2012 18:52 GMT
#9
On November 04 2012 03:47 GrassEater wrote:
They probably count every key pressed in real time, not every usefull command in blizzard time

^^ this. Its probably counting EVERY command in real time and not blizzard time.
ok
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 19:01:57
November 03 2012 18:54 GMT
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
November 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#11
More epeen boost for the casuals probably. Now someone with 70 apm actually see like 170 in the tab after
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
November 03 2012 20:10 GMT
#12
I doubt it's peak APM, either, because I only ever see between 230-250 in the performance tab, but in replays I regularly spike over 300. Dunno what's going on here, really.
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MidgetHumper
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom280 Posts
November 03 2012 20:13 GMT
#13
I will take my 500+ APM any day, haters gonna hate. =P
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=284255#1
Ethoex
Profile Joined June 2012
United States164 Posts
November 03 2012 20:52 GMT
#14
it could be in real minuets or just a glitch but it makes player feel better
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MidgetHumper
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom280 Posts
November 03 2012 21:24 GMT
#15
I average at about 250 apm on a good day.. I just had a score screen with 500+. I't is bugged to shit. lol
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=284255#1
memcpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
November 03 2012 21:40 GMT
#16
This just reminded me, didn't blizzard say the would be changing HOTS to use real time for faster speed?
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
November 03 2012 21:42 GMT
#17
On November 04 2012 06:40 memcpy wrote:
This just reminded me, didn't blizzard say the would be changing HOTS to use real time for faster speed?


...no.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Tedde93
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden169 Posts
November 03 2012 22:04 GMT
#18
I had an average apm of 800 versus a very easy computer. The game lasted for like 40 min, cheacked the replay and had an avareage apm of 80. (Was trying to see if there was anypoint in xp farming)
Patiance is the element of succes"
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
November 03 2012 22:57 GMT
#19
I think what you're seeing is the sum of your actions for the whole game .

It could be a couple things....in order of most likely...
a. A glitch...
b. New calcuations...
c. Real time...
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
TheGreenMachine
Profile Joined March 2010
United States730 Posts
November 03 2012 23:30 GMT
#20
Its the real APM calculation. Remember sc2 time is 1.38x as fast as real time. So if you have 100 sc2 apm you have 138 real apm.

There was also a patch a while back where apm stopped counting selecting units like spamming 123412341234. It only counted actual actions.

So this apm at the end of game is very useful, its actual apm litterally what u do ingame.
Don't forget to get everyone you know to play HOTS so this game we love called Starcraft will live on. Every little bit helps. ^^
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