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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
July 12 2026 16:18 GMT
#3241
It was an absolutely blatant dive
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4015 Posts
July 12 2026 19:50 GMT
#3242
On July 12 2026 23:20 gTank wrote:
The way england played vs norway lets me put them as worst of the last 4 teams. No idea how they want to get past the other teams.

Argentina has had trouble beating Cape Verde, Egypt and Switzerland. 3 overtimes. And of course, were helped throughout. So I don't think they're clear favorites vs England.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2664 Posts
July 12 2026 19:55 GMT
#3243
On July 13 2026 04:50 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2026 23:20 gTank wrote:
The way england played vs norway lets me put them as worst of the last 4 teams. No idea how they want to get past the other teams.

Argentina has had trouble beating Cape Verde, Egypt and Switzerland. 3 overtimes. And of course, were helped throughout. So I don't think they're clear favorites vs England.


True to one extent but they also have Messi, he can score any time. They have been super underwhelming but I think they can step up a bit.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9241 Posts
July 12 2026 20:32 GMT
#3244
On July 12 2026 23:04 maybenexttime wrote:
For those who are on the fence as to which team to root for, here's the French world cup song/war chant. ;p


That was kinda bad, the Kylian Dictador song is a banger though
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51666 Posts
July 12 2026 21:14 GMT
#3245
On July 13 2026 04:50 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2026 23:20 gTank wrote:
The way england played vs norway lets me put them as worst of the last 4 teams. No idea how they want to get past the other teams.

Argentina has had trouble beating Cape Verde, Egypt and Switzerland. 3 overtimes. And of course, were helped throughout. So I don't think they're clear favorites vs England.


i feel like having the 3 ET's surely add up to increased fatigue of the squad in general
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
July 13 2026 06:48 GMT
#3246
I think that we can beat Spain, they are not as impressive as I thought, even though they are still the favorites
On the other side of the bracket, I Hope that England will manage to beat FifArgentina; but no matter the score before 90 minutes Albiceleste will find good fortune probably
WriterMaru
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7347 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-13 10:14:35
July 13 2026 10:13 GMT
#3247
On July 13 2026 15:48 Poopi wrote:
I think that we can beat Spain, they are not as impressive as I thought, even though they are still the favorites
On the other side of the bracket, I Hope that England will manage to beat FifArgentina; but no matter the score before 90 minutes Albiceleste will find good fortune probably


lol what? No way in hell is Spain favored over France.
Bookmakers are having for the title are

France 2,4
England 4,3
Spain 4,5
Fifa 5,00

I personally think England should be least favored, though
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-13 10:47:32
July 13 2026 10:46 GMT
#3248
On July 13 2026 19:13 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2026 15:48 Poopi wrote:
I think that we can beat Spain, they are not as impressive as I thought, even though they are still the favorites
On the other side of the bracket, I Hope that England will manage to beat FifArgentina; but no matter the score before 90 minutes Albiceleste will find good fortune probably


lol what? No way in hell is Spain favored over France.
Bookmakers are having for the title are

France 2,4
England 4,3
Spain 4,5
Fifa 5,00

I personally think England should be least favored, though

Spain won the latest Euro, England latest Euro finalists and Argentina latest WC winners, so technically I would say every other remaining nation is favored vs France
In terms of level of play I have confidence in my team as the strongest this tournament (that’s probably why bookmakers also favor France to win it all), but I can’t say that we are favored results wise

Édit: in terms of level, I would say France > Spain > England = Argentina
Results wise probably Spain > Argentina (more recent title) > England > France
WriterMaru
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51666 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-13 11:44:45
July 13 2026 11:44 GMT
#3249
holy shit, this one came out of left field - we're signing tielemans from villa.

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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9958 Posts
July 13 2026 11:52 GMT
#3250
On July 13 2026 20:44 GTR wrote:
holy shit, this one came out of left field - we're signing tielemans from villa.

https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/2076611884606771298


That's a good signing.
There are still some question marks about him after that season at Leicester but he's a quality player for sure.
RIP Meatloaf <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
July 13 2026 11:55 GMT
#3251
That’s a solid signing for United.

Always found it a bit odd that it was Villa who snapped him up back in the day, no offence to the Villains!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18721 Posts
July 13 2026 12:58 GMT
#3252
On July 12 2026 23:20 gTank wrote:
The way england played vs norway lets me put them as worst of the last 4 teams. No idea how they want to get past the other teams.


speaks volumes of Kane and Bellingham imo
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2664 Posts
July 13 2026 13:11 GMT
#3253
I think Bellingham is the best player that England has for a while, he has it all. Also a nice guy if its true what people say.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-13 14:17:09
July 13 2026 14:15 GMT
#3254
On July 13 2026 19:46 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2026 19:13 Harris1st wrote:
On July 13 2026 15:48 Poopi wrote:
I think that we can beat Spain, they are not as impressive as I thought, even though they are still the favorites
On the other side of the bracket, I Hope that England will manage to beat FifArgentina; but no matter the score before 90 minutes Albiceleste will find good fortune probably


lol what? No way in hell is Spain favored over France.
Bookmakers are having for the title are

France 2,4
England 4,3
Spain 4,5
Fifa 5,00

I personally think England should be least favored, though

Spain won the latest Euro, England latest Euro finalists and Argentina latest WC winners, so technically I would say every other remaining nation is favored vs France
In terms of level of play I have confidence in my team as the strongest this tournament (that’s probably why bookmakers also favor France to win it all), but I can’t say that we are favored results wise

Édit: in terms of level, I would say France > Spain > England = Argentina
Results wise probably Spain > Argentina (more recent title) > England > France


What happened 4 or 2 years ago is much less relevant than what is happening right now. In the WC so far, France has looked dominant, Spain has looked solid+clutch, and Argentina and England look lucky to be where they are.

If we replayed the world cup tomorrow, France is still overwhelmingly likely to be in the same semi final spot. Aside from the first half vs Senegal, they've dominated every half they've played. Spain could've lost to Portugal or Belgium- but have still looked good. England and Argentina could easily have lost every knockout game. But France also hasn't really faced opposition at the level of Spain/arg/eng yet - Morocco was a poor version of itself. So the final games are reasonably open, but there is no question which wc team has been the best so far.

And yeah, both England and Argentina have individual players capable of making things happen.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9958 Posts
July 13 2026 17:21 GMT
#3255
On July 13 2026 23:15 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2026 19:46 Poopi wrote:
On July 13 2026 19:13 Harris1st wrote:
On July 13 2026 15:48 Poopi wrote:
I think that we can beat Spain, they are not as impressive as I thought, even though they are still the favorites
On the other side of the bracket, I Hope that England will manage to beat FifArgentina; but no matter the score before 90 minutes Albiceleste will find good fortune probably


lol what? No way in hell is Spain favored over France.
Bookmakers are having for the title are

France 2,4
England 4,3
Spain 4,5
Fifa 5,00

I personally think England should be least favored, though

Spain won the latest Euro, England latest Euro finalists and Argentina latest WC winners, so technically I would say every other remaining nation is favored vs France
In terms of level of play I have confidence in my team as the strongest this tournament (that’s probably why bookmakers also favor France to win it all), but I can’t say that we are favored results wise

Édit: in terms of level, I would say France > Spain > England = Argentina
Results wise probably Spain > Argentina (more recent title) > England > France

And yeah, both England and Argentina have individual players capable of making things happen.


This has been huge in this WC tbh.
The games have generally been very tight and relying on 'fine margins' and either mistakes or players who can make something out of nothing to sneak a win.
RIP Meatloaf <3
raidern_br
Profile Joined November 2002
Brazil622 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-13 20:07:43
July 13 2026 20:05 GMT
#3256
i agree with eri, this argentina squad hasn't faced a top tier team yet and they have suffered to go through the rounds. when we list them it's actually shocking that those were the teams a country needed to face to reach the semi-finals: austria, jordan, algeria, cape verde, egypt, switzerland.

not to mention they always look exhausted in the last 20 mins of the match. i highly doubt they will defeat england. messi is the goat and i love him but the team just doesnt look good enough this time around.
Gogogo
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
July 13 2026 21:58 GMT
#3257
Argentina don't look convincing at all. No control, only randomly turn it on when it looks threatening. They're sleepwalking through these games basically with no energy and no other ideas other than get Messi the ball. I wonder if the idea of playing 10v11 every time on defense is too much for them to handle over another WC, especially with the extra game.

England haven't been the most convincing either but they also had to deal with Mexico at the Azteca and a hot Norwegian team.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9958 Posts
July 13 2026 22:12 GMT
#3258
On July 14 2026 06:58 FlaShFTW wrote:
Argentina don't look convincing at all. No control, only randomly turn it on when it looks threatening. They're sleepwalking through these games basically with no energy and no other ideas other than get Messi the ball. I wonder if the idea of playing 10v11 every time on defense is too much for them to handle over another WC, especially with the extra game.

England haven't been the most convincing either but they also had to deal with Mexico at the Azteca and a hot Norwegian team.


Ahh but FlashFTW you forget England's history of being extremely disappointing at key moments when playing against 'big' teams.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18400 Posts
July 13 2026 22:54 GMT
#3259
On July 14 2026 07:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 06:58 FlaShFTW wrote:
Argentina don't look convincing at all. No control, only randomly turn it on when it looks threatening. They're sleepwalking through these games basically with no energy and no other ideas other than get Messi the ball. I wonder if the idea of playing 10v11 every time on defense is too much for them to handle over another WC, especially with the extra game.

England haven't been the most convincing either but they also had to deal with Mexico at the Azteca and a hot Norwegian team.


Ahh but FlashFTW you forget England's history of being extremely disappointing at key moments when playing against 'big' teams.

That's probably why my prediction model says 1-0 for Argentina and recommends Bellingham and Kane for scoring goals
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9958 Posts
July 13 2026 23:04 GMT
#3260
On July 14 2026 07:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 07:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 14 2026 06:58 FlaShFTW wrote:
Argentina don't look convincing at all. No control, only randomly turn it on when it looks threatening. They're sleepwalking through these games basically with no energy and no other ideas other than get Messi the ball. I wonder if the idea of playing 10v11 every time on defense is too much for them to handle over another WC, especially with the extra game.

England haven't been the most convincing either but they also had to deal with Mexico at the Azteca and a hot Norwegian team.


Ahh but FlashFTW you forget England's history of being extremely disappointing at key moments when playing against 'big' teams.

That's probably why my prediction model says 1-0 for Argentina and recommends Bellingham and Kane for scoring goals

Haha yeah that makes perfect sense :D
RIP Meatloaf <3
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