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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
February 20 2026 12:54 GMT
#2221
On February 19 2026 04:51 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2026 00:48 haitike wrote:
Both things can be true. I think Vini is an asshole and I can't stand him. But what Prestianni did was way worse and we must condemn it.

Pretty much how I feel. Vini is a diva, a diver, and an arrogant asshole and I rejoice every time shit goes wrong for him on the pitch. But that doesn't mean he deserves racial and physical abuse from opposing players and fans throwing shit at him on the field. It's pretty disgusting what he had to deal with in this game.


I was at the stadium, and to be completly fair I only knew what was happening after the game when I looked at my phone and understood what originated the problem.

For me and for everyone in the stadium it was just Vini provoking everyone and everything and getting what he deserved. When the game stopped for 10 minutes i thought it was because people were throwing things at Vini (Completly justifiable given how he acted), for the racism there's no justification.

Everything must be looked into, and if it is proven there must be harsh penaltys for the player. For me it's a contract termination with just cause.

The problem here is, what if it isn't true? What if it is a misunderstanding. Mbappé is clearly lying to verify what Vinicius is telling. He exagerated a lot on his affirmations.

This is not an easy thematic at all... And I think we are getting to a point where everything is Racism. And when everything is Racism, it looses the power of the people that are fighting actively against that.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18721 Posts
February 20 2026 17:09 GMT
#2222
Mbappé is clearly lying? What?

Mbappe is a lot of things but he doesn't cause on-field drama... So if he did then it's real
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
February 20 2026 17:58 GMT
#2223
On February 20 2026 21:54 bObaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2026 04:51 FlaShFTW wrote:
On February 19 2026 00:48 haitike wrote:
Both things can be true. I think Vini is an asshole and I can't stand him. But what Prestianni did was way worse and we must condemn it.

Pretty much how I feel. Vini is a diva, a diver, and an arrogant asshole and I rejoice every time shit goes wrong for him on the pitch. But that doesn't mean he deserves racial and physical abuse from opposing players and fans throwing shit at him on the field. It's pretty disgusting what he had to deal with in this game.


I was at the stadium, and to be completly fair I only knew what was happening after the game when I looked at my phone and understood what originated the problem.

For me and for everyone in the stadium it was just Vini provoking everyone and everything and getting what he deserved. When the game stopped for 10 minutes i thought it was because people were throwing things at Vini (Completly justifiable given how he acted), for the racism there's no justification.

Everything must be looked into, and if it is proven there must be harsh penaltys for the player. For me it's a contract termination with just cause.

The problem here is, what if it isn't true? What if it is a misunderstanding. Mbappé is clearly lying to verify what Vinicius is telling. He exagerated a lot on his affirmations.

This is not an easy thematic at all... And I think we are getting to a point where everything is Racism. And when everything is Racism, it looses the power of the people that are fighting actively against that.

Hold up, even if Vini was provoking people, does that mean he deserves to get things thrown at him? I understand jeering and people telling him off from the stands, but how did we get to justifying assault?

How do we know that Mbappe is lying? Is that really the thoughts we go to directly in these moments? Why are the fans also making monkey gestures to him then if it's not racism? Even if the player himself did not say something racist, it's ok for the fans to do it? I'm really not sure what you're trying to get at.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
February 20 2026 20:35 GMT
#2224
yeah the take that throwing things at him is completely justified is a pretty crazy take from my perspective.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
February 20 2026 20:50 GMT
#2225
On February 20 2026 21:54 bObaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2026 04:51 FlaShFTW wrote:
On February 19 2026 00:48 haitike wrote:
Both things can be true. I think Vini is an asshole and I can't stand him. But what Prestianni did was way worse and we must condemn it.

Pretty much how I feel. Vini is a diva, a diver, and an arrogant asshole and I rejoice every time shit goes wrong for him on the pitch. But that doesn't mean he deserves racial and physical abuse from opposing players and fans throwing shit at him on the field. It's pretty disgusting what he had to deal with in this game.


I was at the stadium, and to be completly fair I only knew what was happening after the game when I looked at my phone and understood what originated the problem.

For me and for everyone in the stadium it was just Vini provoking everyone and everything and getting what he deserved. When the game stopped for 10 minutes i thought it was because people were throwing things at Vini (Completly justifiable given how he acted), for the racism there's no justification.

Everything must be looked into, and if it is proven there must be harsh penaltys for the player. For me it's a contract termination with just cause.

The problem here is, what if it isn't true? What if it is a misunderstanding. Mbappé is clearly lying to verify what Vinicius is telling. He exagerated a lot on his affirmations.

This is not an easy thematic at all... And I think we are getting to a point where everything is Racism. And when everything is Racism, it looses the power of the people that are fighting actively against that.

I mean if Prestianni said something racist, it’s hardly exaggeration or over-sensitivity.

Perhaps he did not, or it was a misunderstanding, it’s certainly possible.

On the flipside I don’t think much of the response from the Benfica camp, especially from Mourinho was reasonable. It’s one thing to defend your player when there isn’t conclusive evidence, but I think completely dismissing the possibility while implying that Vini brings it on himself is pretty repugnant.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2077 Posts
February 21 2026 20:11 GMT
#2226
I think I've asked about this before in some shape or form, but do you have any interesting notions on teams outside the obvious big ones in Serie A and La Liga? I have pretty good access to both leagues and I'd love to understand a bit more about the teams that are not the big three of La Liga.

I guess Serie A as a whole is quite messy currently with a lot of potential teams battling for UCL and even the league title. La Liga seems to have a lot of regional rivalries, traditions and all that going on.

Any recommendations on which teams to follow, which derbies and rivalries to keep an eye and so on? In Italy Como seems to be flying quite high currently, any what's going on in there?
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
February 21 2026 22:38 GMT
#2227
On February 21 2026 05:35 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yeah the take that throwing things at him is completely justified is a pretty crazy take from my perspective.


I'm uterly upset about this all situation due to the way that Benfica handled it and I clearly overreacted here. But there's a reason why players get booked when they provoke the fans of the opposing team, because things can get messy really easy.

Regarding Mbappé he is clearly lying because at the end of the game he heard Prestianni calling Vinicius "Mono" 5 times.

This has already been thoroughly scrutinized and all of the videos have been reviewed and everything that Prestianni said in the game was mapped, except for the 1 second that he has the shirt in front of his mouth.

He clearly said something very wrong, perhaps he called Vinicius "mono", and if he did, he needs to be severly penalized, but mbappé is lying... I think he can get away with this because it's the biggest club in the world vs Benfica, and he said it to support what Vinicius is saying.

Any decision that comes out of this will be very controversial because of lack of proof. And Prestianni was already judged by the world, lead by Henry and Micah Richards, and found guilty, even without getting to the bottom of this.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-24 20:27:07
February 24 2026 20:26 GMT
#2228
Bodø-Glimt being dominated pretty hard so far. Very lucky to not have conceded. 8-0 in shots.

They were pretty lucky in g1 too. Still - 25 minutes in, ahead by two!
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
February 24 2026 20:39 GMT
#2229
On February 25 2026 05:26 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Bodø-Glimt being dominated pretty hard so far. Very lucky to not have conceded. 8-0 in shots.

They were pretty lucky in g1 too. Still - 25 minutes in, ahead by two!

If we’re to lose to anyone I’d like it to be Bodo, but still hoping that is t the case!

I suppose one silver lining is if we exit it’ll make winning Serie A more likely. Last season was one I imagine I’ll recall more easily than many when I’m in old age, but going so deep in every competition was probably a factor in us ultimately ending up empty-handed!

I’m sure there’s examples from the European Cup days, but in the CL era it’s only Leverkusen I can recall that lost the CL final, finished second in the league and their domestic cup

I’m probably atypical as a fan but I’d definitely take the ‘silver treble’ over winning a domestic cup, or a second tier European competition.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-24 21:35:24
February 24 2026 21:21 GMT
#2230
loll 19-4 in shots 0-1 goals

That said on target is 4-4. Glimt is good at finishing and that is a valuable skill to have.

Loll 0-2 - this one was pure class.
Like not gonna lie, Inter has three hits in the post across the games and they easily could have scored a lot of goals with just some tiny bit of luck - and slightly better finishing. Just now one of their players flat out missed the ball when in a golden spot. But Glimt's goals are pure class. Players like Hauge and Evjen are top notch players.

and now Inter finally scored but lol even that looked like a miracle squandering for a second.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
February 24 2026 21:32 GMT
#2231
Such a gift from Akanji, curses!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-24 21:59:22
February 24 2026 21:54 GMT
#2232
Previous 5 CL games
2-2 away vs Dortmund
3-1 win home vs Manchester City
2-1 win away vs Atletico Madrid
3-1 win home vs Inter
2-1 win away vs Inter

Perhaps a rematch vs City coming up lolz.

(quoting some fb source - They also became the first team from outside of Europe’s big five leagues to win four consecutive games in a European Cup/UEFA Champions League campaign against opponents from those leagues (England, Spain, Germany, Italy & France) since Ajax in 1971/72.)
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
February 24 2026 22:11 GMT
#2233
On February 25 2026 06:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Previous 5 CL games
2-2 away vs Dortmund
3-1 win home vs Manchester City
2-1 win away vs Atletico Madrid
3-1 win home vs Inter
2-1 win away vs Inter

Perhaps a rematch vs City coming up lolz.

(quoting some fb source - They also became the first team from outside of Europe’s big five leagues to win four consecutive games in a European Cup/UEFA Champions League campaign against opponents from those leagues (England, Spain, Germany, Italy & France) since Ajax in 1971/72.)

Ridiculous run, especially considering in the first half of the league phase they weren’t getting too much joy results-wise

GG, no re. Least this season!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
February 24 2026 23:39 GMT
#2234
BODOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2077 Posts
February 25 2026 05:30 GMT
#2235
Pretty likely that two more Italian teams get knocked out today. Not a good year for them in UCL.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7347 Posts
February 26 2026 07:37 GMT
#2236
Dortmunds ability to be disappointing is on another level really. If they play like this vs Bayern on Saturday they will get murdered.

Good thing is you can take their jersey and write BOOODOOOO LETS GO!!! on it cause it looks so similar
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18721 Posts
February 26 2026 10:13 GMT
#2237
On February 26 2026 16:37 Harris1st wrote:
Dortmunds ability to be disappointing is on another level really. If they play like this vs Bayern on Saturday they will get murdered.

Good thing is you can take their jersey and write BOOODOOOO LETS GO!!! on it cause it looks so similar


I still can't believe they gifted Tuchel a championship all those years ago. :D
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10530 Posts
February 27 2026 16:25 GMT
#2238
Arsenal about to dog walk their way to the final, what an incredibly fortunate draw for them.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2077 Posts
February 27 2026 18:55 GMT
#2239
On February 28 2026 01:25 FlaShFTW wrote:
Arsenal about to dog walk their way to the final, what an incredibly fortunate draw for them.

To semi-final probably (unless they get Bodoed), but then there's at least Atletico and Barca. PL is also going to keep them pretty busy, so I don't necessarily expect complete walkovers on the 'easier' opponents either.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4428 Posts
February 28 2026 05:37 GMT
#2240
Dortmund may have botched their CL tie but they have a huge opportunity in the Bundesliga this weekend. If they knock off Bayern, the gap narrows to 5 points and there will be real belief.

Villa probably no longer in the english title conversation after losing to Wolves, who are no longer at risk of being the worst EPL team ever

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