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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28789 Posts
November 23 2022 09:48 GMT
#1061
Sorry, not gonna build a bunch of 40k+ stadiums just for one tournament. (top capacity for any stadium in Norway right now is 28k)

Otherwise a Scandinavian bid would be sweet!
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8854 Posts
November 23 2022 10:34 GMT
#1062
im pretty sure hes referring to ownership of clubs by country.
i read somewhere that the plan is to sell to american investors though. dont know how credible it is
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2726 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-23 10:46:59
November 23 2022 10:45 GMT
#1063
Drama apart I'm enjoying the worldcup, even 0-0 matches like Denmark Tunez were cool and with goal chances. I missed the worldcup, 4 years is a long wait.

Argentina defeat was fun, but Spain plays today so I'm going to wait before laughing too much about Argentina.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-23 11:18:07
November 23 2022 11:00 GMT
#1064
On November 23 2022 18:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Sorry, not gonna build a bunch of 40k+ stadiums just for one tournament. (top capacity for any stadium in Norway right now is 28k)

Otherwise a Scandinavian bid would be sweet!

As others mentioned, the talk was more about the club ownership.

However, on the Scandinavian or Nordic Euro / World Cup bid: One of the Qatar stadiums is supposedly built from some sort of portable cargo containers and can be disassembled, shipped across the world with relative ease and assembled somewhere else as necessary. I have my doubts on the Qatari implementation of things considering how shaky the overall organization seems, but the idea still sounds interesting.

Maybe some ingenious Nordic engineering could actually figure out a succesful way of doing that. You let the Swedes design it and the whole stadium will be easy to assemble with handful of Allen keys.

Edit: Ingenious, not ingenuine. English hard.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
November 23 2022 11:42 GMT
#1065
On November 23 2022 20:00 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2022 18:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Sorry, not gonna build a bunch of 40k+ stadiums just for one tournament. (top capacity for any stadium in Norway right now is 28k)

Otherwise a Scandinavian bid would be sweet!

As others mentioned, the talk was more about the club ownership.

However, on the Scandinavian or Nordic Euro / World Cup bid: One of the Qatar stadiums is supposedly built from some sort of portable cargo containers and can be disassembled, shipped across the world with relative ease and assembled somewhere else as necessary. I have my doubts on the Qatari implementation of things considering how shaky the overall organization seems, but the idea still sounds interesting.

Maybe some ingenious Nordic engineering could actually figure out a succesful way of doing that. You let the Swedes design it and the whole stadium will be easy to assemble with handful of Allen keys.

Edit: Ingenious, not ingenuine. English hard.

A stadium that can be disassembled, shipped around and reassembled.... sounds a lot like a circus.

Not being an engineer nor an architect, it still sounds to me like all those amazing container house ideas that in the end end up costing more than building a house from scratch.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-23 11:52:24
November 23 2022 11:52 GMT
#1066
On November 23 2022 20:42 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2022 20:00 Bacillus wrote:
On November 23 2022 18:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Sorry, not gonna build a bunch of 40k+ stadiums just for one tournament. (top capacity for any stadium in Norway right now is 28k)

Otherwise a Scandinavian bid would be sweet!

As others mentioned, the talk was more about the club ownership.

However, on the Scandinavian or Nordic Euro / World Cup bid: One of the Qatar stadiums is supposedly built from some sort of portable cargo containers and can be disassembled, shipped across the world with relative ease and assembled somewhere else as necessary. I have my doubts on the Qatari implementation of things considering how shaky the overall organization seems, but the idea still sounds interesting.

Maybe some ingenious Nordic engineering could actually figure out a succesful way of doing that. You let the Swedes design it and the whole stadium will be easy to assemble with handful of Allen keys.

Edit: Ingenious, not ingenuine. English hard.

A stadium that can be disassembled, shipped around and reassembled.... sounds a lot like a circus.

Not being an engineer nor an architect, it still sounds to me like all those amazing container house ideas that in the end end up costing more than building a house from scratch.

Yeah, at the very least there's definitely a lot of trial and error with such project.

Still, I like it as one way to expand the list of potential World Cup hosts past the few countries with sufficient stadiums and the shady sort of hosts that can commit to massive building projects without much regard to all the concerns over human rights, environment and all that. It's not just football either, portable buildings can help in all kinds of massive events and maybe there's even use for portable hospitals and such.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
November 23 2022 13:41 GMT
#1067
I can see the shell of a stadium being moved around or a hospital in a box but there's always going to be a severe concrete foundation that needs to be built that isn't going to be moving anywhere.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2607 Posts
November 23 2022 14:46 GMT
#1068
I heard some neighbors scream (anti germans), I believe the "Mannschaft" are pulling an Argentina?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4282 Posts
November 23 2022 16:18 GMT
#1069
On November 23 2022 23:46 gTank wrote:
I heard some neighbors scream (anti germans), I believe the "Mannschaft" are pulling an Argentina?


They did.

Pulling an Argentina is a fun way to put it xD
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 23 2022 16:40 GMT
#1070
On November 23 2022 20:52 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2022 20:42 warding wrote:
On November 23 2022 20:00 Bacillus wrote:
On November 23 2022 18:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Sorry, not gonna build a bunch of 40k+ stadiums just for one tournament. (top capacity for any stadium in Norway right now is 28k)

Otherwise a Scandinavian bid would be sweet!

As others mentioned, the talk was more about the club ownership.

However, on the Scandinavian or Nordic Euro / World Cup bid: One of the Qatar stadiums is supposedly built from some sort of portable cargo containers and can be disassembled, shipped across the world with relative ease and assembled somewhere else as necessary. I have my doubts on the Qatari implementation of things considering how shaky the overall organization seems, but the idea still sounds interesting.

Maybe some ingenious Nordic engineering could actually figure out a succesful way of doing that. You let the Swedes design it and the whole stadium will be easy to assemble with handful of Allen keys.

Edit: Ingenious, not ingenuine. English hard.

A stadium that can be disassembled, shipped around and reassembled.... sounds a lot like a circus.

Not being an engineer nor an architect, it still sounds to me like all those amazing container house ideas that in the end end up costing more than building a house from scratch.

Yeah, at the very least there's definitely a lot of trial and error with such project.

Still, I like it as one way to expand the list of potential World Cup hosts past the few countries with sufficient stadiums and the shady sort of hosts that can commit to massive building projects without much regard to all the concerns over human rights, environment and all that. It's not just football either, portable buildings can help in all kinds of massive events and maybe there's even use for portable hospitals and such.


Can always do joint bids. There have been 2 before. 2026 will have 3. What about 4 Scandinavian countries doing a joint bid?
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
November 23 2022 17:48 GMT
#1071
On November 24 2022 01:40 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2022 20:52 Bacillus wrote:
On November 23 2022 20:42 warding wrote:
On November 23 2022 20:00 Bacillus wrote:
On November 23 2022 18:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Sorry, not gonna build a bunch of 40k+ stadiums just for one tournament. (top capacity for any stadium in Norway right now is 28k)

Otherwise a Scandinavian bid would be sweet!

As others mentioned, the talk was more about the club ownership.

However, on the Scandinavian or Nordic Euro / World Cup bid: One of the Qatar stadiums is supposedly built from some sort of portable cargo containers and can be disassembled, shipped across the world with relative ease and assembled somewhere else as necessary. I have my doubts on the Qatari implementation of things considering how shaky the overall organization seems, but the idea still sounds interesting.

Maybe some ingenious Nordic engineering could actually figure out a succesful way of doing that. You let the Swedes design it and the whole stadium will be easy to assemble with handful of Allen keys.

Edit: Ingenious, not ingenuine. English hard.

A stadium that can be disassembled, shipped around and reassembled.... sounds a lot like a circus.

Not being an engineer nor an architect, it still sounds to me like all those amazing container house ideas that in the end end up costing more than building a house from scratch.

Yeah, at the very least there's definitely a lot of trial and error with such project.

Still, I like it as one way to expand the list of potential World Cup hosts past the few countries with sufficient stadiums and the shady sort of hosts that can commit to massive building projects without much regard to all the concerns over human rights, environment and all that. It's not just football either, portable buildings can help in all kinds of massive events and maybe there's even use for portable hospitals and such.


Can always do joint bids. There have been 2 before. 2026 will have 3. What about 4 Scandinavian countries doing a joint bid?

They'd still have to build a lot of stadiums as there are only two over 40k currently. Not to mention the minimum requirement for QF is 60k and finals is 80k.

I think joint bids are the future, otherwise the cup is always going to be hosted by the same big countries. Know what would be fun? A Greece + Turkey joint bid. Both countries have a deserving football culture and maybe they could finally get along?
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 23 2022 18:03 GMT
#1072
Oh sure, the peace bringer football story again. No Greece and Turkey wont get along because of a footie WC...

Thats like Infantinos suggestion that a tourney in Iran could help the situation there...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26739 Posts
November 24 2022 00:40 GMT
#1073
On November 24 2022 01:40 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2022 20:52 Bacillus wrote:
On November 23 2022 20:42 warding wrote:
On November 23 2022 20:00 Bacillus wrote:
On November 23 2022 18:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Sorry, not gonna build a bunch of 40k+ stadiums just for one tournament. (top capacity for any stadium in Norway right now is 28k)

Otherwise a Scandinavian bid would be sweet!

As others mentioned, the talk was more about the club ownership.

However, on the Scandinavian or Nordic Euro / World Cup bid: One of the Qatar stadiums is supposedly built from some sort of portable cargo containers and can be disassembled, shipped across the world with relative ease and assembled somewhere else as necessary. I have my doubts on the Qatari implementation of things considering how shaky the overall organization seems, but the idea still sounds interesting.

Maybe some ingenious Nordic engineering could actually figure out a succesful way of doing that. You let the Swedes design it and the whole stadium will be easy to assemble with handful of Allen keys.

Edit: Ingenious, not ingenuine. English hard.

A stadium that can be disassembled, shipped around and reassembled.... sounds a lot like a circus.

Not being an engineer nor an architect, it still sounds to me like all those amazing container house ideas that in the end end up costing more than building a house from scratch.

Yeah, at the very least there's definitely a lot of trial and error with such project.

Still, I like it as one way to expand the list of potential World Cup hosts past the few countries with sufficient stadiums and the shady sort of hosts that can commit to massive building projects without much regard to all the concerns over human rights, environment and all that. It's not just football either, portable buildings can help in all kinds of massive events and maybe there's even use for portable hospitals and such.


Can always do joint bids. There have been 2 before. 2026 will have 3. What about 4 Scandinavian countries doing a joint bid?

If you want it to be anywhere outside of NA/Europe and not in somewhere like Qatar joint bids seem the only way to go moving forwards.

There aren’t that many places around that can accommodate the full FIFA circus solo anymore
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
November 24 2022 01:39 GMT
#1074
I mean south america is right there and Moroco has at least tried to get the cup for a while now. I agree joint bids are the answer to games being expensive but logic hasn't been the strong suit of FIFA and the olympics for a while now.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2107 Posts
November 24 2022 10:31 GMT
#1075
south america hosting the world cup would be the greatest vibe ever. Something i would support 100% having traveled around colombia before the people there are amazing
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18632 Posts
November 24 2022 11:30 GMT
#1076
On November 24 2022 19:31 Copymizer wrote:
south america hosting the world cup would be the greatest vibe ever. Something i would support 100% having traveled around colombia before the people there are amazing


They dont have the infrastructure for it --> see Brazil
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 24 2022 16:33 GMT
#1077
Ronaldo is already pissed off.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2107 Posts
November 24 2022 19:32 GMT
#1078
On November 24 2022 20:30 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2022 19:31 Copymizer wrote:
south america hosting the world cup would be the greatest vibe ever. Something i would support 100% having traveled around colombia before the people there are amazing


They dont have the infrastructure for it --> see Brazil

there's plenty of massive stadiums in south america so i dont see infrastructure as the problem
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2607 Posts
November 24 2022 21:58 GMT
#1079
There are cool stadiums in Mexico -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_Mexico

They could host the WC theoretically, right?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2022 22:01 GMT
#1080
They have the 2026 world cup along with USA and Canada, have 3 stadiums in the pool.
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