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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 17 2021 03:28 GMT
#1181
Where the hell did these Canadians come from?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28699 Posts
November 17 2021 07:37 GMT
#1182
Norway has progressed a lot over the course of the qualification - we have a really young team and they've become solid defensively. However - we're way too reliant on Haaland to be able to score goals.

Next qualification with the entire team being two years better and hopefully Haaland not being injured is promising, even though the performance vs Latvia+Netherlands was a bit disappointing. (tbh, vs Latvia we were also unlucky to not get a goal - we certainly had enough chances) I get the impression that our performance vs Netherlands seemed a bit lackluster, but even if we've improved, the Netherlands on away field is still too big of a task to expect us to dominate or even play an even match. I do think our best chance of squeezing out a victory was to keep the game tight with few chances going either way - if we say that Norway will on average create 1 chance for every 3 chances the Netherlands creates (up until the 80th minute it was like 0.5 vs 4, but I think that was the basic idea going into the game) then we're way more likely to win if there are only 4 chances total - 1 vs 3, than if there are 16 total - 4 vs 12..

Oh well!

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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
November 17 2021 08:00 GMT
#1183
I do hope that Norway can qualify for at least one of the euros!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6972 Posts
November 17 2021 10:30 GMT
#1184
On November 17 2021 12:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Where the hell did these Canadians come from?

https://twitter.com/onesoccer/status/1460810948399226880


I guess Mexico forgot to put on ice skates
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-17 13:49:22
November 17 2021 13:48 GMT
#1185
The teams almost ended up in a brawl after the whistle, and people are surprised that Mexico is not allowed to have fans etc in stadiums.

+ Show Spoiler +
We already know how this will play out the Ref's will take it out on the US. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it


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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14023 Posts
November 17 2021 20:22 GMT
#1186
Its pretty crazy most of the game Mexico didn't seem to really care that much and were noticeably smaller and slower than the Canadian players.

The last 20 minutes however Mexico looked like the team people expect them to play as.

the game really came down to the differences between the goalies and canadia had the better man between the sticks.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3983 Posts
November 18 2021 07:16 GMT
#1187
On November 17 2021 16:37 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Norway has progressed a lot over the course of the qualification - we have a really young team and they've become solid defensively. However - we're way too reliant on Haaland to be able to score goals.

Next qualification with the entire team being two years better and hopefully Haaland not being injured is promising, even though the performance vs Latvia+Netherlands was a bit disappointing. (tbh, vs Latvia we were also unlucky to not get a goal - we certainly had enough chances) I get the impression that our performance vs Netherlands seemed a bit lackluster, but even if we've improved, the Netherlands on away field is still too big of a task to expect us to dominate or even play an even match. I do think our best chance of squeezing out a victory was to keep the game tight with few chances going either way - if we say that Norway will on average create 1 chance for every 3 chances the Netherlands creates (up until the 80th minute it was like 0.5 vs 4, but I think that was the basic idea going into the game) then we're way more likely to win if there are only 4 chances total - 1 vs 3, than if there are 16 total - 4 vs 12..

Oh well!



Yeah, we all expected a different game than we saw from you guys yesterday. On the one hand, it seemed way too defensive for a must-win game, on the other hand, when you did try and push at the end, we immediately got lots of space, so those tactics might well have been the best option. Glad we were spared the humiliation of not making it (again), but I would've liked to see Norway in the playoffs instead of Turkey. Everyone turns on their set when Ibra or Haaland plays, not so much for Yilmaz...

Also, is Canada going to make it? Just found out they only ever qualified for the world cup once...and they're in the continent that's easiest to qualify from, imo. Good to see they're improving!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28699 Posts
November 18 2021 13:07 GMT
#1188
Losing Haaland for the final 4 matches of the qualification was a huge blow. Very possible/likely that our draws against Turkey and Latvia would've ended differently if he was playing (both those games featured many big chances but poor finishing from our strikers) - that could've given us an additional 4 points, giving us the playoff spot ahead of Turkey for sure (and also would've given us the group victory with a 0-0 against Netherlands - a result we could have been capable of getting if that had been sufficient).

We were also factoring in how Turkey vs Montenegro was going. Montenegro had the lead early on - and they had some really big chances when it was 1-1 - and if Montenegro had won, then we'd get a playoff spot with 0-0. Also we had 9 shots in the post during the tournament, and there were a couple games where we had something like 12 players injured that would have started ahead of the guys who were fielded. Future optimism is high even if the end was disappointing. The only game we played that was really poorly played was the first game against Turkey (lost 0-3 on home field that wasn't home field, our home field was Spain for that game, due to COVID) - that was also the second game of our new manager and the team barely had any time to practice together.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9707 Posts
November 18 2021 21:12 GMT
#1189
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/nov/18/we-have-fallen-into-a-trap-for-hotel-staff-qatar-world-cup-dream-is-a-nightmare

This is what football is these days. Just another way of exploiting people in service of the ultra wealthy. What a sad waste of a good sport.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28699 Posts
November 18 2021 21:42 GMT
#1190
I'm real proud of Norway for boycotting this atrocity.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9707 Posts
November 19 2021 06:57 GMT
#1191
On November 19 2021 06:42 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I'm real proud of Norway for boycotting this atrocity.

Yes, and no offense meant to Norway at all, but they are showing the successful countries how to be a football nation.
I wish some of the big name teams would join them. Every country that takes part is taking part in the abuse of these people.
Old Brian Clough would be spinning in his grave.
RIP Meatloaf <3
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
November 19 2021 08:19 GMT
#1192
some more shit that's been stirred over the past 24 hours

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/qx8akt/megathread_romain_molinas_the_guardian_ny_times/
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8716 Posts
November 19 2021 09:30 GMT
#1193
On November 19 2021 17:19 GTR wrote:
some more shit that's been stirred over the past 24 hours

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/qx8akt/megathread_romain_molinas_the_guardian_ny_times/

i dont get it. is that list supposed to be a compilation of serious and credible allegations, or just a list of random allegations and accusations being thrown around?
some of them i could see being plausible whereas others are either too unbelievable or random that makes me seriously doubt that its an actual issue.
if every single one of them was a proper allegation that was being backed by credible sources, then we'd have a major scandal on our hands but i think the likelihood of a single individual bringing forward that entire list of allegations and having the evidence to back each one up is extremely extremely slim
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
November 19 2021 12:04 GMT
#1194
Given the combination of money sloshing around, football being a dream job for so many and the number of young people crossing borders to follow that dream, I would be astonished with that particular combination that predatory sexual behaviour isn’t relatively common.

It seems an awfully long list to have been researched by one guy, and I’m assuming it wasn’t, just the Reddit thread is listing a lot of the stuff alluded to.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 19 2021 13:35 GMT
#1195
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 19 2021 14:10 GMT
#1196
On November 19 2021 18:30 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2021 17:19 GTR wrote:
some more shit that's been stirred over the past 24 hours

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/qx8akt/megathread_romain_molinas_the_guardian_ny_times/

i dont get it. is that list supposed to be a compilation of serious and credible allegations, or just a list of random allegations and accusations being thrown around?
some of them i could see being plausible whereas others are either too unbelievable or random that makes me seriously doubt that its an actual issue.
if every single one of them was a proper allegation that was being backed by credible sources, then we'd have a major scandal on our hands but i think the likelihood of a single individual bringing forward that entire list of allegations and having the evidence to back each one up is extremely extremely slim

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romain_Molina


Could not find an English page for him but all the published articles linked at the bottom are in English, published by reputable papers like The Guardian or The New York Times. Yesterday he said he'll present something more structured this winter as he's overwhelmed by all the informations he gets. Also he's not working alone.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 19 2021 20:32 GMT
#1197
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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
November 19 2021 22:39 GMT
#1198
Why is The Netherlands above Germany, lol.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 20 2021 03:06 GMT
#1199
$15 million is a steal. Unless FC Dallas is also asking for something to go with the trade.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 20 2021 14:11 GMT
#1200
Cpt. America!

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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