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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7426 Posts
November 10 2020 08:41 GMT
#641
Nations League break again???
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 10 2020 09:57 GMT
#642
On November 10 2020 17:41 Harris1st wrote:
Nations League break again???

Sure is. Looking forward to more instant classic Germany games where players who sit on the bench in their clubs (if they even get to the bench) start for Germany because Löw's ego doesn't allow him to go back on dropping Boateng and Hummels.

Shoutouts to Antonio Rüdiger and Nico Schulz in particular.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
November 10 2020 09:58 GMT
#643
funny thing is he even said its not possible to revert his decision lol
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 10 2020 15:13 GMT
#644
Bierhoff said "we lost some sympathy with our fans" because we failed at WC2018
Well I agree about the sympathy but definitely not from the wc2018 in my case. It's just too many international friendly games and breaks are the reason for me. Just remove those games and don't refill them with "important" games (nations league).
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 10 2020 19:02 GMT
#645
I refused to watch international football at the moment, its an awful time with COVID and they are "forcing" players around Europe to play in games that are not important at all. The only thing i can just about understand is playing the Euro 2021 playoff games, outside of that it all should have been cancelled and rescheduled to another part of the year.

The parts that annoy me are;

Iceland going to Denmark to play even though they have an awful problem with a potentially mutated COVID strain involving minks, meaning that the UK government doesn't allow anyone in from Denmark, thus Iceland can't come and play their game in England, so we have to forfeit?

Secondly, that same thing means any player from the UK going to play for Denmark right now cannot rejoin their club until a 2 week quarantine has taken place, so Leicester will be now without Kasper for 4 weeks (2 week international break plus 2 week quarantine). All for nations league games....
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Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
November 10 2020 20:09 GMT
#646
The Netherlands plays Spain in a friendly. A regular friendly! It's not even a Nations League game for crying out loud. I know literally nobody who cares about this game. Why not just cancel it?
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
November 10 2020 20:27 GMT
#647
We know why. This crisis hits everyone and they all need the money.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 10 2020 20:34 GMT
#648
Money. The tv deals and whatnot are the only some of the few revenue streams left for football associations. No chance they'd voluntarily cancel the games if it means they miss out on ticket or broadcast revenues and even may have to pay fines for breaching the broadcast contracts.

Regarding Nations League, I've been quite a big fan of it. Seeing Finland play actually meaningful and competitive internationals has been really cool.

The normal euro and wc qualifier groups usually have one or two teams that are tiers above, and one team that is so much weaker than any of the others that those games lose meaning as well. In the worst case in a six team qualifier group six out of the ten games are significant mismatches one way or another. As much as I loved seeing the French stars in the Olympic Stadium in Helsinki some years back, it doesn't really mean that the football was meaningful when we can be happy when we only lost 2-0. Nations league at least in the C and B tiers has had none of these games that are essentially unwinnable or unlosable. Fixture congestion and corona concerns are a different issue, but I hope Nations League is here to stay.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
November 10 2020 23:14 GMT
#649
I like the Nation's League too, for the reasons Oukka laid out there. It works pretty well in dragging teams of roughly equivalent level together, as well as offering an alternative qualifying pathway too.

On the other hand how much money can associations be making from these fixtures? Notably the friendlies. Really, why the fuck are they there in such a packed schedule already?

Last international break brought rather a lot of Covid positives, methinks this one we shall see the same. Apart from anything else, it will stiffen the resolve of the clubs yet further in the club v country argument if they're losing players to Covid, which seems a borderline inevitability at this stage.

Look there's no fans for the vast majority of these anyway. Just pick a singular city, set up a bubble for the international break and play them there, if you absolutely have to.

There's absolutely nothing of the flavour of international football as it is, no home fans in raucous stadiums galvanising their team and intimidating the visitors, no colour of the committed travelling fans experiencing new European climes. Etc. May as well just play them at a neutral venue city and mitigate Covid risk considerably.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 11 2020 18:19 GMT
#650
Kroos came out swinging in that press conference today! Saying FIFA and UEFA treating the players poorly due to forcing them to play these games so they make money. Good on him for standing up!
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 12 2020 22:39 GMT
#651
Moon ya Marshalll!!!! Scotland qualifies to Euros as well!! Shame it seems unlikely they'll play in Glasgow now
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 13 2020 01:03 GMT
#652
On November 13 2020 07:39 Oukka wrote:
Moon ya Marshalll!!!! Scotland qualifies to Euros as well!! Shame it seems unlikely they'll play in Glasgow now


What an awful game of football honestly it was -.-
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
November 13 2020 01:05 GMT
#653
Between football and rugby this is about the only time I can recall that the nation of much of my family didn’t let me down!

Goes a way to softening the blow of the the Norn Iron result anyway
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
November 13 2020 02:20 GMT
#654
Of course it was Mitrovic who missed the penalty that won Scotland the shootout.

Fulham need to hire a consultant or a witch doctor maybe
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4020 Posts
November 13 2020 02:47 GMT
#655
Haha okay, i don't think we can ever complain about the groups again in a major national tournament. Even our worst manager in decades should be able to finish first in this one.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 13 2020 18:11 GMT
#656
On November 13 2020 07:39 Oukka wrote:
Moon ya Marshalll!!!! Scotland qualifies to Euros as well!! Shame it seems unlikely they'll play in Glasgow now

Why won't they play in Glasgow? Their first match is at Hampden park in Euro 2021 against Czech Republic.

The crazy thing is they are in the same group as England haha, going to be a bloodbath that one.
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 13 2020 18:32 GMT
#657
On November 14 2020 03:11 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2020 07:39 Oukka wrote:
Moon ya Marshalll!!!! Scotland qualifies to Euros as well!! Shame it seems unlikely they'll play in Glasgow now

Why won't they play in Glasgow? Their first match is at Hampden park in Euro 2021 against Czech Republic.

The crazy thing is they are in the same group as England haha, going to be a bloodbath that one.


This crazy little thing called Covid. I just don't believe the original plan of having games all around continent with at least the teams travelling, if not even the whole circus including masses of media folks and fans is a sensible way. Now what the covid situation is at that point and how sensible UEFA is with regards to these things is very uncertain as of now, but I have serious doubts that the tournament would be played in the way it was supposed to happen. More likely in my head that they'll end up doing something like the Europa League and Champions League were, with a couple of stadiums in one country and more or less empty stands. Would love to be wrong about it tho.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 13 2020 21:15 GMT
#658
Its summer 2021? I know Covid right now but i think by the time summer 2021 comes with this vaccine we might be in a good place to at the very least half stadiums will be a thing surely. There were people in stadiums in Russia, Germany and France up until 6 weeks ago.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
November 13 2020 22:00 GMT
#659
I don’t think stadiums having fans are the problem it’s going to be all the travel across Europe that the current theoretical configuration would entail.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 13 2020 22:18 GMT
#660
That is true and does effect others, however England vs Scotland is already penciled in for Wembley as the draw and stadia have already been done and assigned. So should be a good chance at least 40,000 will be in stadium.
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