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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
February 11 2020 02:58 GMT
#361
On February 11 2020 08:49 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2020 03:34 andrewlt wrote:
On February 10 2020 06:51 JimmiC wrote:
Dion Waiters gets waived. I wonder if that is it for him? Or if someone is going to give him another chance. It is not talent he lacks.


Isaiah Thomas also waived. But I think Houston is looking for a small ball center.

He might be done as well. Was was desperate for any star power and Im not sure if there is a worse team and they dumped em.

I wonder if hou is hoping someone like tristen thompson or taj gibson gets bought out. I think they are set at small hall with pj tucker at the 5 but you think they need some height to contend. I mean they could be going all in, small ball all the time but I think they will get eaten up by the Lakers, Jazz, trailblazers, mavs and so on.

Hou seems to be willing to do things others are not so you could be right.


Rockets were already having Harden jump ball for the lulz, might as well sign IT3 to do it. I like Morey's philosophy. No use trying to follow a strategy that you don't have the personnel for. If everybody follows the same strategy, teams with more talent tend to win out. Underdogs have a higher chance of causing upsets in an asymmetric game.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16972 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 04:36:56
February 11 2020 04:33 GMT
#362
Minnesota and Toronto both played tonight without a Center. I still have no fucking clue exactly what position KAT is playing.. but it ain't Center. The Raptors playing with half their team injured torched Minnesota for 137 while KAT wandered aimlessly all over the place.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 06:22:25
February 11 2020 06:22 GMT
#363
Lets be honest (bringing the baseball thing all the way back), no sane person doesn't think Lebron and Harden are juicing.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16972 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 14:01:01
February 11 2020 07:22 GMT
#364
Kendrick Nunn's minutes are up for grabs.

While were on baseball.. Kendrick Nunn looks like he is expecting the Manager to call him in for a pinch hitter. A coach can't "give" a player confidence... but a coach sure can take it away. Nunn has lost his confidence and it shows. He is easily flustered and easily panicked in a way he never was earlier in the year.

Damn, I love those Buffalo Braves uniforms.

This is hilarious. WTF is KAT doing? This isn't all his fault though.
https://streamable.com/syw18

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 11 2020 15:11 GMT
#365
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16972 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 18:41:16
February 11 2020 18:27 GMT
#366
it also depends what you mean by "steroids". Cortisone is a steroid. Cortisone shots are administered every year.
On February 12 2020 00:11 JimmiC wrote:
Which honestly should probably be allowed since they have seen no long term damage (unless the people are going crazy with the TRT) and it keeps them healthier and so on through-out their careers and after it.

There is not enough data out there to conclude that healthy adults taking HGH receive no long term damage.
https://www.webmd.com/colorectal-cancer/news/20020725/growth-hormone-linked-to-cancer#2

normal, healthy adults taking HGH are rolling the dice.

There are ample studies proving children who take HGH increase their risk of getting cancer. The increased chance is about the an amount similar to if they smoked a pack of cigarettes a day. So its not like 25% of kids are getting cancer from taking HGH. However, there are health risks associated with taking HGH for children.

I suspect there are also health risks to taking HGH as an adult just as there are for children. However, there is not enough data on the matter to make any kinds of conclusions.

The best way to keep your HGH and Testosterone levels solid is to get a good night's sleep at least 6 nights per week and maintain a rigorous strength training regimen.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 11 2020 18:35 GMT
#367
On February 12 2020 00:11 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2020 15:22 cLutZ wrote:
Lets be honest (bringing the baseball thing all the way back), no sane person doesn't think Lebron and Harden are juicing.

I would think they are not juicing as in steroids. But I would think that they are taking HGH and possibly TRT above "normal" levels for their age.

Which honestly should probably be allowed since they have seen no long term damage (unless the people are going crazy with the TRT) and it keeps them healthier and so on through-out their careers and after it.And since basketball is not football or fighting you don't have to worry about the damage to their opponents of them being extra strong and fast.

HGH is human growth hormone. TRT is testosterone replacement therapy.

Lol. TRT is juicing.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16972 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 18:56:29
February 11 2020 18:55 GMT
#368
As of February 1, Kyrie Irving was supposed to have his knee re-evaluated in 1 week. hmmmm.
https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nets/kyrie-irving-knee-nets-1.41690437

whenever Irving does come back it'll be tough to pick 2 of Dinwiddie, Levert, and Irving to start. Dinwiddie feeds Levert commensurate with his scoring talent... i'm not sure Irving will though.

I think Levert won't be happy when Irving returns.
On February 12 2020 03:35 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2020 00:11 JimmiC wrote:
On February 11 2020 15:22 cLutZ wrote:
Lets be honest (bringing the baseball thing all the way back), no sane person doesn't think Lebron and Harden are juicing.

I would think they are not juicing as in steroids. But I would think that they are taking HGH and possibly TRT above "normal" levels for their age.

Which honestly should probably be allowed since they have seen no long term damage (unless the people are going crazy with the TRT) and it keeps them healthier and so on through-out their careers and after it.And since basketball is not football or fighting you don't have to worry about the damage to their opponents of them being extra strong and fast.

HGH is human growth hormone. TRT is testosterone replacement therapy.

Lol. TRT is juicing.

But, Joe Rogan told me TRT isn't juicing so you must be wrong.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 11 2020 19:16 GMT
#369
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 21:53:51
February 11 2020 21:47 GMT
#370
After seeing that video by Dr. Sutterer about calf muscle atrophy, I'm curious to see how much strength and power John Wall will lose.

11 months removed from Achilles surgery, John Wall is clearing major milestones in his recovery

On February 12 2020 03:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it also depends what you mean by "steroids". Cortisone is a steroid. Cortisone shots are administered every year.
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2020 00:11 JimmiC wrote:
Which honestly should probably be allowed since they have seen no long term damage (unless the people are going crazy with the TRT) and it keeps them healthier and so on through-out their careers and after it.

There is not enough data out there to conclude that healthy adults taking HGH receive no long term damage.
https://www.webmd.com/colorectal-cancer/news/20020725/growth-hormone-linked-to-cancer#2

normal, healthy adults taking HGH are rolling the dice.

There are ample studies proving children who take HGH increase their risk of getting cancer. The increased chance is about the an amount similar to if they smoked a pack of cigarettes a day. So its not like 25% of kids are getting cancer from taking HGH. However, there are health risks associated with taking HGH for children.

I suspect there are also health risks to taking HGH as an adult just as there are for children. However, there is not enough data on the matter to make any kinds of conclusions.

The best way to keep your HGH and Testosterone levels solid is to get a good night's sleep at least 6 nights per week and maintain a rigorous strength training regimen.


Actually, the body stops making HGH around the age of 30, and testosterone levels start dropping around that time frame as well. There is another way to keep your HGH and Testosterone levels solid though. Intermittent fasting actually forces the body to start creating HGH again and boosts testosterone levels. I don't think it's wise to use synthetic hormones when the body is still capable of making it's own natural hormones.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16972 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 22:21:52
February 11 2020 21:58 GMT
#371
In that video you can see that Durant's right calf is smaller than his left calf. Who knows when it was taken though.

Someone as skinny as that ... you have to wonder how much muscle he can afford to lose. Especially the larger type 2 muscle fibers.

That aside, some guys do make a recovery where they are 90%+ of what they were before in terms of strength and power. I guess the big question for Durant and Wall is... will they lose 1% and be the same or will they lose 15% and be a fraction of what they were before?

Forbes Franchise Values
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2020/02/11/nba-team-values-2020-lakers-and-warriors-join-knicks-in-rarefied-4-billion-club/#346475882032

Most valuable franchise is the Knicks. Average franchise value is 2.1B. Median franchise value 1.775B. " As recently as 2011, no NBA franchise was valued at even $1 billion." Every franchise grew in value.
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
February 11 2020 23:41 GMT
#372
Al Horford is not starting tonight. He will come off the bench
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16972 Posts
February 12 2020 00:54 GMT
#373
Why don't they just give Embiid a lawn chair so he can sit in the key more comfortably?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16972 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-12 19:13:38
February 12 2020 19:09 GMT
#374
NBA League Pass is dirt cheap until February 16. At its current price I recommend it so long as your favourite team is not blacked out and you have access to fast internet all the time.
Raptors go for #16 In Brooklyn Tonight
Ibaka is listed as out. He went to Brooklyn with the team so I think he'll play. Nothing from Murphy or Lou on Ibaka yet today though. hmmmmm.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 14 2020 05:19 GMT
#375
Do you think how much TRT they are doing? I haven't heard of any evidence that testosterone helps outside of anabolism and you need factors more test to get results from that. It seems unlikely that athletes younger than 40 have below normal levels of test.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 14 2020 14:52 GMT
#376
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16972 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 19:53:18
February 14 2020 15:31 GMT
#377
On February 14 2020 14:19 Jerubaal wrote:
Do you think how much TRT they are doing? I haven't heard of any evidence that testosterone helps outside of anabolism and you need factors more test to get results from that. It seems unlikely that athletes younger than 40 have below normal levels of test.

This is a very fascinating subject you bring up!

it depends what you consider "evidence".

The causes behind the benefits of many medical treatment regimens are not fully understood. Lots of baseball people claim testosterone improves reaction times. This is not fully understood, however, there are studies that back up this claim. I don't know if you consider this "evidence" though.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7862265

Cortisone is another steroid whose mechanism behind its effectiveness is not fully understood. It's been used for 60+ years. And several times every year NBAers receive cortisone injections.

Lots of expert googlers like Kyrie Irving are against cortisone. They think they have "evidence" that 1 cortisone shot properly administered by a skilled orthopaedic surgeon does long term damage to the structures being treated.

So it depends what you consider "evidence". I prefer to go to my orthopaedic surgeon and ask his opinion of these various published studies that I can google.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 15 2020 21:27 GMT
#378
Revolutionary 20pt basket to e unveiled in the ASG

https://streamable.com/k7b7i
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 15 2020 21:28 GMT
#379
I hope the dunk contest is hype!

https://streamable.com/p8mwu
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 15 2020 21:31 GMT
#380
Raptors superfan Nav Bhatia honoured by Basketball Hall of Fame

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Nav Bhatia, widely known as the Toronto Raptors‘ superfan who has attended almost all of the franchise’s home games, will become one of the first honourees into a new “Superfan Gallery” at the Basketball Hall of Fame.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-superfan-nav-bhatia-honoured-basketball-hall-fame/
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