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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 14 2019 19:17 GMT
#61
England day so good! Lewis record-breaking win in the F1, winning the world cup in cricket in the most intense game of cricket i have ever seen and potentially the most intense ever in the history of the game. WOW!
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
July 15 2019 06:50 GMT
#62
On July 14 2019 09:17 plasmidghost wrote:
Several thousand lifetimes later, we finally upped the bid on Tierney to 25m GBP. God I hope we don't get fucked by Napoli


Apparently Arsenal dont want to pay the 25 right away so thats why celtic rejected it...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 15 2019 11:39 GMT
#63
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
July 15 2019 15:13 GMT
#64
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 15 2019 19:13 GMT
#65
Quite a few reports saying Yanited have had an £80 million bid accepted by Leicester for Harry Maguire.. Jesus christ lol that is nuts fee.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 15 2019 19:32 GMT
#66
God damn Italy...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
whistleboss
Profile Joined March 2019
151 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-15 20:19:56
July 15 2019 20:17 GMT
#67
Another conspiracy! I don't believe any of this!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
July 15 2019 21:46 GMT
#68
On July 16 2019 04:13 Pandemona wrote:
Quite a few reports saying Yanited have had an £80 million bid accepted by Leicester for Harry Maguire.. Jesus christ lol that is nuts fee.


why not de ligt, utd?
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 16 2019 00:19 GMT
#69
On July 16 2019 06:46 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2019 04:13 Pandemona wrote:
Quite a few reports saying Yanited have had an £80 million bid accepted by Leicester for Harry Maguire.. Jesus christ lol that is nuts fee.


why not de ligt, utd?

because de ligt is actually smart and wants to join a club that won't need another half a decade to win a relevant title?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-16 02:07:40
July 16 2019 01:48 GMT
#70
On July 16 2019 09:19 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2019 06:46 sharkie wrote:
On July 16 2019 04:13 Pandemona wrote:
Quite a few reports saying Yanited have had an £80 million bid accepted by Leicester for Harry Maguire.. Jesus christ lol that is nuts fee.


why not de ligt, utd?

because de ligt is actually smart and wants to join a club that won't need another half a decade to win a relevant title?


whats relevant tho? i dont count most domestic league titles/national cups as relevant, certainly not serie a
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-16 05:28:27
July 16 2019 05:25 GMT
#71
On July 16 2019 04:13 Pandemona wrote:
Quite a few reports saying Yanited have had an £80 million bid accepted by Leicester for Harry Maguire.. Jesus christ lol that is nuts fee.


loool

United management biggest blunder impending. That guy has no business on a football pitch, worst player in the England NT after Danny Rose.

De Ligt has Raiola as his agent, sadly.. he negotiates well for his client and his own financial gain. Juventus was able to get de Ligt because they offered around € 14.000.000 / year (and probably 20% commission for Raiola). Rumour: Barça wanted to get de Ligt as well, offered €75M, but couldn't/wouldn't cough up the required salary / commission.
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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-16 10:53:10
July 16 2019 10:52 GMT
#72
Random thought today:
Revenue in the big leagues has increased dramatically (due to specific TV market economics that may or not be short lived, we'll see) so it's only normal that top teams drive up transfer fees.

The pernicious effect though is that for 2nd tier and lower teams, transfer revenue, which is highly volatile, can now tower over operational revenue, which is more stable. Managing these clubs becomes way more risky. Ajax and Benfica have made many millions in transfer revenue - should they now throw the dice and increase salary spend to become more competitive or be conservative and accept a fate of feeder club and never sustainably compete for the CL.

It's even worse for small teams in the Portuguese league who have annual budgets of 3-10M and now often sell players for those same amounts.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
July 16 2019 11:48 GMT
#73
Worst mistake clubs like Ajax and Benefica could do is to try to match wages of the big ones. They will always lose in that battle. Its much better to spend that money towards academies, young players, scouting etc to get an even bigger profit and have even more potential talents till one day this football bubble breaks - at the rate we are going with transfer and wages it wont be sustainable too long imo
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 16 2019 11:50 GMT
#74
Barca, or any club for that matter would be beyond stupid to pay this.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18459 Posts
July 16 2019 12:01 GMT
#75
On July 16 2019 20:50 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Barca, or any club for that matter would be beyond stupid to pay this.

https://twitter.com/ParisUnitedEN/status/1150835521482035200

A transfer fee of half that would be pushing it, imho.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-16 12:37:27
July 16 2019 12:36 GMT
#76
On July 16 2019 20:48 sharkie wrote:
Worst mistake clubs like Ajax and Benefica could do is to try to match wages of the big ones. They will always lose in that battle. Its much better to spend that money towards academies, young players, scouting etc to get an even bigger profit and have even more potential talents till one day this football bubble breaks - at the rate we are going with transfer and wages it wont be sustainable too long imo


Yeah a player like Bale earned almost as much as the entire base formation (first 11) of Ajax last year. They did let go of their salary cap of €1M last year though, with players like Tadiç, Ziyech, Blind, de Jong and de Ligt earning around 2-4M yearly. Excess money should go to development of youth academies, scouting and not overpaying for terrible players (LOL MAGUIRE).

That said; they do strive to up their budget to €150M, which would make them able to compete with the tier just below the top (like Benfica, Porto, AS Roma, Arsenal, Napoli etc.) in the long run with occasional runs like 2017 (final EL) and 2019 (barely missing out on the final of CL). Maybe it's a romantic thought though, they did get lucky with an extroardinary year in which everything went right and the development rate of players like Frenkie de Jong, Matthijs de Ligt and Donny van de Beek was skyhigh.

If they could actually keep their budget at €150M, that would be pretty amazing since they only receive around €11M from national television rights. It's a volatile market though. While clubs like Man. United could just skip CL income a couple of years, CL income is a major boost for Ajax. Their budget was €90M last year, they received as much in their CL run (prize money, marketing pool, ticket sales etc. included).
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-16 18:18:31
July 16 2019 18:16 GMT
#77
On July 16 2019 14:25 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2019 04:13 Pandemona wrote:
Quite a few reports saying Yanited have had an £80 million bid accepted by Leicester for Harry Maguire.. Jesus christ lol that is nuts fee.


loool

United management biggest blunder impending. That guy has no business on a football pitch, worst player in the England NT after Danny Rose.

De Ligt has Raiola as his agent, sadly.. he negotiates well for his client and his own financial gain. Juventus was able to get de Ligt because they offered around € 14.000.000 / year (and probably 20% commission for Raiola). Rumour: Barça wanted to get de Ligt as well, offered €75M, but couldn't/wouldn't cough up the required salary / commission.

I don't think its a huge blunder, its english tax plus premier league to premier league inflation but the guy is proven in the premier league, he might make some errors on the national stage but show me who doesnt? De Ligt looked awful vs England for example in the mini Euros getting done over by Sancho and Rashford and that horror tackle to give away the pen. Clearly he knows how to head a ball though as proven with his goals and goal threat but a 19 year old un proven Premier league player vs a proven premier league player ready to go and English. That is why it isn't a blunder, fee is ridiculous but it isn't a blunder just destroyed on the fee.

I kept saying someone should take Koulibaly which would be a similar fee if not more but he is 28 so maybe not as long term investment i still would have went with him over Maguire personally but it isn't a blunder. De Ligt to Juventus is fine but he has joined the most defensive league out there so he will need to be switched on that side of the game but he is playing with Sarri so maybe not XD


On Neymar, while the fee is stupidly high, he would solve a lot of issues going forward that Barcelona have and im sure Real Madrid would be foaming at the mouth to have both Neymar and Hazard on the wings if Real wanted him instead. Fee is going to absolutely astronomical, they want there 200 million back they paid for him but he will bring you match winning performances...all be it if he isn't actually broken (keeps getting foot injuries because he gets rushed back to early!)
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-16 19:28:58
July 16 2019 18:57 GMT
#78
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 17 2019 01:14 GMT
#79
On Neymar, while the fee is stupidly high, he would solve a lot of issues going forward that Barcelona have and im sure Real Madrid would be foaming at the mouth to have both Neymar and Hazard on the wings if Real wanted him instead. Fee is going to absolutely astronomical, they want there 200 million back they paid for him but he will bring you match winning performances...all be it if he isn't actually broken (keeps getting foot injuries because he gets rushed back to early!)


They already have a finished attacking squad. Anything else is just overreach for a player who is not worth it. Especially one who has missed over 6 months due to injury.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4685 Posts
July 17 2019 02:23 GMT
#80


Has anyone EVER seen this be something that actually needed a rule like this for?
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