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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 29 2018 21:53 GMT
#1261
So what happens, surely Conte can't turn down Real Madrid if he is asked. It's his dream club, he will get the money he wants to bring in the players he wants in a league he should do very well in.

Rumours are he "turned it down" because he believes the squad does not want him? How does he know this, only Tibo has been vocal and that is quite easy to just negotiate one player.
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 22:19:08
October 29 2018 22:14 GMT
#1262
On October 30 2018 06:53 Pandemona wrote:
So what happens, surely Conte can't turn down Real Madrid if he is asked. It's his dream club, he will get the money he wants to bring in the players he wants in a league he should do very well in.

Rumours are he "turned it down" because he believes the squad does not want him? How does he know this, only Tibo has been vocal and that is quite easy to just negotiate one player.


Ramos yesterday when he talked after "el clasico" kinda insinuated that they don't want him.

He said that "soft" coaches (like Del Bosque, Ancelotti and Zidane) had been better for the club than firm hand coaches (like Mourinho, and for sure he refers to Conte). And after that he said "Respect is won, it is not imposed".

Players are so spoiled nowadays...
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
October 29 2018 23:07 GMT
#1263
Most likely Conte doesn't want the job, because in Madrid he can't possibly pull of his favorite 3 CD formations. Turns out that Madrid has only 3 central defenders and 1 of them is always injured.
The season is over anyways and the team is obviously rebuilding with younger players. Perez should hire young coach that knows the club and will be with it for the long run. One-two season coach like Conte is not ideal in this situation.
I say Guti or Solari.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
October 29 2018 23:08 GMT
#1264
On October 30 2018 07:14 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 06:53 Pandemona wrote:
So what happens, surely Conte can't turn down Real Madrid if he is asked. It's his dream club, he will get the money he wants to bring in the players he wants in a league he should do very well in.

Rumours are he "turned it down" because he believes the squad does not want him? How does he know this, only Tibo has been vocal and that is quite easy to just negotiate one player.


Ramos yesterday when he talked after "el clasico" kinda insinuated that they don't want him.

He said that "soft" coaches (like Del Bosque, Ancelotti and Zidane) had been better for the club than firm hand coaches (like Mourinho, and for sure he refers to Conte). And after that he said "Respect is won, it is not imposed".

Players are so spoiled nowadays...

weellll - i'm not the biggest Ramos fan out there but if it's worked for them in the past having a softer coach, then why shouldn't they be asking for it again? it's very similar to parenting... some thrive under a harsher environment, others prefer a soft touch

so while i do agree that players are more spoiled these days, but it doesn't make Ramos' request any less valid..
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2117 Posts
October 30 2018 05:29 GMT
#1265
On October 30 2018 07:14 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 06:53 Pandemona wrote:
So what happens, surely Conte can't turn down Real Madrid if he is asked. It's his dream club, he will get the money he wants to bring in the players he wants in a league he should do very well in.

Rumours are he "turned it down" because he believes the squad does not want him? How does he know this, only Tibo has been vocal and that is quite easy to just negotiate one player.


Ramos yesterday when he talked after "el clasico" kinda insinuated that they don't want him.

He said that "soft" coaches (like Del Bosque, Ancelotti and Zidane) had been better for the club than firm hand coaches (like Mourinho, and for sure he refers to Conte). And after that he said "Respect is won, it is not imposed".

Players are so spoiled nowadays...

If players are calling the shots in the media, it's hard to believe anything is going to change until they rotate out the current core roster. I'm all for respectful talks inside the team and all that, but don't bring it to the media.

WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
October 30 2018 07:06 GMT
#1266
Conte isn't only a 'problem' for the players, it would be for Perez too. I don't think he's ever liked managers that wanted more control. If Conte wants to sign someone but Perez wants to sign another one, Perez will win. Mourinho wanted more power, and it didn't end well. The only reason they're going for Conte is because absolutely no one else is free.

They need to salvage this season and hire someone next summer imo, like Pochettino. Someone with good football, but not too authoritarian.
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-30 08:59:09
October 30 2018 08:57 GMT
#1267
conte is even more defensive and draconian than mourinho, doubt he would do that well there. but what matters more is which players they bring in.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 30 2018 11:53 GMT
#1268
This stadium better have holographic half time shows...

Tottenham Hotspur are set to borrow another £237million to cover the spiralling costs of their new stadium build.

Spurs revealed the extension of their “development facility” with their three banking partners in their statement on Friday night, which confirmed that the new Tottenham Hotspur Stadium would not be ready until 2019. The club also revealed their net debt as £366m, a figure that is set to rise to £600m.

The club had initially announced in May 2017 a £400m arrangement with Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs and HSBC, which was due to last for five years. But in Friday’s statement Tottenham confirmed that the facility is now worth “up to £637m”, representing an increase of £237m or 59% on the initial £400m.

That extra money is needed to cover any cash-flow issues as Tottenham try to complete the construction of their new stadium, which has dragged on through the first half of this season.

Tottenham are now looking to re-finance this £637m facility through a bond issue, similar to the approach that debt-laden Manchester United have used in the past. “Working with our Banking Partners and our financial advisor, Rothschild & Co, we shall be converting this development facility, which currently expires in April 2022, into notes with a mixture of debt maturities,” Tottenham confirmed.

In May 2015 Manchester United raised $425m of bonds through a private placement. That is when a borrower sells bonds privately to a small group of institutional investors, rather than offering them publicly. Tottenham are set to pursue a similar approach.

This all means that Spurs’ net debt is set to increase even further. While Spurs confirmed in their Friday statement that the net debt is now £366m, the extra £237m means that it is now expected to rise up to £600m.

Tottenham initially aimed to move into their new stadium for the Premier League game with Liverpool on 15 September but that deadline was missed, forcing Spurs to aim for the game with Burnley on 15 December. But the stadium will not be ready for that game either, and with the club reluctant to open the stadium over Christmas, the target is now the match with Manchester United on 13 January.


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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
October 30 2018 11:59 GMT
#1269
holy shit I hope Spurs are going to get some fines, pretty sure its not ok to just keep switching dates for their stadium. The Opposition needs to prepare that too
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 30 2018 12:35 GMT
#1270
It's ok they will pay the heaviest of fines when Poch leaves for Madrid job in summer XD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-30 15:36:30
October 30 2018 15:35 GMT
#1271
On October 30 2018 16:06 WillyWanker wrote:The only reason they're going for Conte is because absolutely no one else is free..


Also because at the very least he will be scapegoated when they don't win, even though they are currently in 9th position and haven't won anything in Spain since Neymar left, because that's the UEFA propaganda. While he was there, they cheated the league for Madrid, when he left it was the opposite and it's all Barcelona now. That's why Zidane and Cristiano left, because they barely managed to win yet another cheated European Clubs Cup.

Ah, they will also say how EPL is easier than La Liga, in the end of the season if they get Conte.

It's all so manipulated, and Juventus player Penaldo or may I say Bribenaldo + Show Spoiler +
(or even analdo)
playing the victim is just...
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
October 30 2018 15:54 GMT
#1272
On October 31 2018 00:35 N1E wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 16:06 WillyWanker wrote:The only reason they're going for Conte is because absolutely no one else is free..


Also because at the very least he will be scapegoated when they don't win, even though they are currently in 9th position and haven't won anything in Spain since Neymar left, because that's the UEFA propaganda. While he was there, they cheated the league for Madrid, when he left it was the opposite and it's all Barcelona now. That's why Zidane and Cristiano left, because they barely managed to win yet another cheated European Clubs Cup.

Ah, they will also say how EPL is easier than La Liga, in the end of the season if they get Conte.

It's all so manipulated, and Juventus player Penaldo or may I say Bribenaldo + Show Spoiler +
(or even analdo)
playing the victim is just...

Are you parodying yourself now or do you actually believe all that inane drivel you just vomited into this thread?
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-30 17:46:08
October 30 2018 16:04 GMT
#1273
What I don't believe are the corrupted african and mexican referees favoring Real Madrid in both CWC 2016 and 2017 finals. Not worth throwing the immense list here of favours your country and even continent get.


Meanwhile Gremio a priceless passion, a love from the heart, is playing River Plate in Libertadores semi-final. The joy of winning deserved, and achievement despite all the cheat is something not everyone can taste.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 30 2018 16:09 GMT
#1274
Will you still think the Club World Cup is the pinnacle after Gianni changes it to include 8 European teams and no teams from South America get into the finals anymore ?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
October 30 2018 16:12 GMT
#1275
easy he will claim it was corrupt african and mexican refs
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
October 30 2018 16:53 GMT
#1276
On October 31 2018 01:04 N1E wrote:
What I don't believe are the corrupted african and mexican referees favoring Real Madrid in both CWC 2016 and 2017 finals. Not worth throwing the immense list here of favours your country and even continent get.


Meanwhile Gremio a pricessless passion, a love from the heart, is playing River Plate in Libertadores final. The joy of winning deserved, and achievement despite all the cheat is something not everyone can taste.

I didn't really have any skin in that game, but you just pushed me into supporting River wholeheartedly (I was already biased towards Inter, and I like River too, but still. So much more fun now that I hear your passionate fandom of Gremio).

N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-30 17:46:56
October 30 2018 17:38 GMT
#1277
On October 31 2018 01:12 sneirac wrote:
easy he will claim it was corrupt african and mexican refs

although the one in Brazil vs Belgium was a serbian... oh an european referee in an european vs south american match! how legit! wait isnt the same referee that let ramos get away with ufc elbow in karius' face? oh my gawd what a surprise

On October 31 2018 01:53 Acrofales wrote:I didn't really have any skin in that game, but you just pushed me into supporting River wholeheartedly (I was already biased towards Inter, and I like River too, but still. So much more fun now that I hear your passionate fandom of Gremio).

I'm sad to inform that tonight Gremio will play here in Porto Alegre, and is already ahead 1-0 on away goal lol!
Better become a fan of (probably) Boca Juniors next week then. I know everyone, CBF, CONMEBOL, FIFA (UEFA) is against but the Tricolor Gaúcho is IMORTAL.

+ Show Spoiler +
CBF? Yup, they are SP-RJ centralists. Won't go well for them that a club that is only 2 times national league champion (although 5 times national cup champion) can become the first brazilian 4 times Libertadores champion.



PS: I made a few typos in my previous post, libertadores is still in semis
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-31 02:50:44
October 31 2018 02:35 GMT
#1278
Fucking 1-1 and it's a penalty for River in 90'...


I swear this focking VAR only works against us.

I really will never get used to this shit. Goalkeeper takes a minute to kick a ball. Referee takes forever to let Gremio (at fucking HOME) kick a normal free-kick in defense. Gremio is about to attack, a random River dude out of play throws himself in the ground and the referee instantly stops...

Won't say I didn't have expectation, but that's it and let me hope Boca can beat the global cheaters this time.

Really let this one get out of hand easily but it's always difficult when it's EVERYTHING against you. + Show Spoiler +
Something disgusting dirty pieces of shits will never understand.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-31 03:27:16
October 31 2018 02:56 GMT
#1279
Boca - River final please. I just want to see the see world burn

Edit: Also seeing some Gremio players complain that River players should hurry up and stop time wasting in the last minutes has to be one of the most ironic and funny moments in football I've seen quite for some time
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N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-31 04:47:18
October 31 2018 03:44 GMT
#1280
They were telling the referee to stop wasting time.

+ Show Spoiler +
Still I just want to remind the fellows here that the difference between 2 continental and world titles with this team to only 1 continental is the referee. The same dude that makes you celebrate a star in your shirt thanks to a late fake penalty against Argentina to destroy an entire tournament.


And that's it. Gremio beaten by the 1st river goal being scored with the hand, yet they go all the way with var that's only used against Gremio to call a fingersball PK that's only called against Gremio.

And let's also ignore the suspended River coach ilegally talking with his players in the dressing room during HT. Also giving radio instructions. But that's football. If Gremio did the same it would be an instant 3-0 loss

Congratz to the referee though, he never gave up that fat cheque even when 2-0 down, and applied the two weights and two measures very well in both handball cases only using var against Gremio. He owns a beer to Everton and Bressan though
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