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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 28 2018 17:07 GMT
#901

A BATTLE FOR LEGACY

Finals berths are always hotly contested, but this year's finale between
the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets is even more urgent for a variety of participants


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HOUSTON — So much riding on one game, which goes beyond which team reaches The Finals and which one reaches for the golf clubs.

Reputations and images and legacies also can and will be determined in this winner-take-all battle between the Warriors and Rockets. Such is the way of professional sports and instant analysis and fortunes, both teams and players and coaches.

That said, here’s what’s on the line for the main figures in Game 7 of the Western Conference finals:

James Harden. He can make a solid case for being the second-best player in the NBA over the past three seasons, having finished top three in Kia MVP voting twice and will perhaps take home the award this season. But LeBron James went to The Finals three times in that span and won once. Harden, on the other hand, doesn’t know what June basketball feels like since he joined the Rockets. He’ll have his best chance Monday. He’ll be on his court, playing before his crowd, 48 minutes away from facing LeBron and the Cavaliers for a championship. If he loses against the Warriors, then Harden will keep the crown as Best Active Player Without A Championship, which isn’t an honor he embraces. With the possibility of playing this game without Chris Paul, Harden might need to explode for 40 points or more. And that still might not be enough. He’s still in his prime, but reaching The Finals, much less winning, isn’t guaranteed to happen. Remember how Oklahoma City was “destined” to return to The Finals when Harden played there?

Kevin Durant. His championship demons were destroyed last summer when he joined a loaded team and did exactly what everyone expected. Yet Durant didn’t sign up for a one-and-done. The only way to justify leaving OKC is by winning multiple titles. His performance in this series has gone hot and cold. This isn’t the same Durant who tore through everyone last spring and summer; he seems bewildered at times by the Houston defense. If he comes up flat and the Warriors lose, the sensitive Durant might want to stay off social media.

Chris Paul. Warriors coach Steve Kerr said what everyone feels about Paul and his hamstring injury: It stinks. Paul deserves so much more, especially after such a solid run through the playoffs in every round, including outplaying Steph Curry until the injury. Paul never reached the conference finals until now and at 33 is running out of chances to play for the championship. He’ll become an instant hero in Houston if he pulls a Willis Reed and inspires the Rockets in Game 7, then again if he beats his pal LeBron in The Finals. If not? Then he’ll wonder why the Basketball Gods are against him.

Steph Curry. A fourth straight trip to The Finals would make Curry the LeBron of the West. He shook himself free from a shooting slump to recover nicely in this series and save the Warriors from elimination in six games.

Mike D’Antoni. Validation would come finally for D’Antoni should he mastermind a victory over the four All-Star Warriors, especially so should he do it without Paul in Game 7. D’Antoni heard too often about how his offenses weren’t built to last in the postseason but nobody’s saying that now. Anyway, the Rockets employ a far different system than the one he used in Phoenix. Translated: Give him credit for adjusting and cooking up an offense to suit the talents of his players and not vice versa. Also, with the help of lead assistant coach Jeff Bzdelik, the Rockets’ defense is causing plenty of issues for the Warriors this series. Overall, D’Antoni has pushed all the right buttons.

Steve Kerr. Has he already done enough for induction into the Basketball Hall of Fame as a coach just off two championships alone? If not, then a fourth straight trip to The Finals might be the trick. But Kerr hasn’t always convinced his players to remain calm in fourth quarters. Why did the Warriors’ offense suffer costly breakdowns in Games 4 and 5? Yes, Houston’s defense rose up, but adjustments by Golden State were slow to come, if at all.

Andre Iguodala. He isn’t expected to play Game 7 and if the Warriors advance, you wonder if he’ll be ready for another shot at LeBron. The Warriors gave him a nice contract extension here in his twilight because of what he means to them in spring and summer. They could use his on-court leadership.

Draymond Green. The Warriors are still looking for a breakout game in this series from their emotional leader. It’s not that Green has been a ghost; rather, he just hasn’t stood out in the small lineup or made his presence known in a big way, other than with the referees (as usual). It would help if Green began hitting those open 3-pointers the Rockets are generously giving him.

Daryl Morey. Often celebrated as one of the top general managers in the game, Morey built this Rockets team with beating the Warriors in mind. He traded for Paul and signed P.J. Tucker last summer, and those two have repaid that faith with solid playoff performances. How many more times must Morey tweak the Rockets here in the Harden era before Houston finally strikes gold. For his sake, hopefully, this was the final time. But again, much depends on Paul’s hamstring. Sometimes, the fate of your team is beyond your control. Sometimes, you need luck.

Houston. This city endured a deadly flood, then lifted itself with the help of ordinary citizens and a handful of local athletes and celebrities, then celebrated its first World Series triumph courtesy of the Astros. For the last several months, therefore, Houston has been in the headlines, and would like to add another late Monday night.

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 28 2018 19:09 GMT
#902
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 29 2018 01:25 GMT
#903
Poll: WCF Game 7, who wins?

Golden State Warriors (7)
 
78%

Houston Rockets (2)
 
22%

9 total votes

Your vote: WCF Game 7, who wins?

(Vote): Houston Rockets
(Vote): Golden State Warriors

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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 29 2018 02:07 GMT
#904
WTF was that first half from the Warriors? Kerr clearly is not doing a job getting the team ready to play. And I have no idea what Durant is doing out there. It’s like those little monsters from Space Jam got him.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
May 29 2018 02:39 GMT
#905
Not sure how that's clear, players are just as responsible for showing up and playing well. Especially superstars like Durant, he shouldn't need to be babysat.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
May 29 2018 02:40 GMT
#906
Refs have turned this game with those no-calls on harden. 10 pts right there
Yhamm is the god of predictions
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 29 2018 02:45 GMT
#907
Warriors are so much better when they run the offense through Curry.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 29 2018 02:46 GMT
#908
On May 29 2018 11:40 Scarecrow wrote:
Refs have turned this game with those no-calls on harden. 10 pts right there

Yeah, refs have fucked the Rockets pretty good.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-29 03:07:39
May 29 2018 03:00 GMT
#909
Then again, losing is kinda on you when you go on a 0-25 streak shooting from 3.

Edit: make that 0-27
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 29 2018 03:28 GMT
#910
Well this has been a cruel tease.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 29 2018 03:37 GMT
#911
No CP3 was too much to over come, but certainly having one of the worst 3 pt shooting games of the year also contributed. Add to that the suspect refs calls and some bad free throw shooting, and GG.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
May 29 2018 03:38 GMT
#912
Warriors continue to get lucky with injured opponents and have a cake-walk in the finals. Hard to get excited.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17815 Posts
May 29 2018 04:07 GMT
#913
yep , it is hard to get excited. once GSW starting intentionally fouling i spent more time paying attention to this...
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 29 2018 04:25 GMT
#914
Very sucky for both home teams to have epicly bad 3 point shooting nights in the 2nd half of both games. Would have liked to see everyone go down swinging and feeling like they gave it their best shot.
Freeeeeeedom
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-29 05:05:28
May 29 2018 05:02 GMT
#915
3 point shooting for the game:

Steph Curry 7/15
Houston Rockets 7/44

woof
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 29 2018 12:12 GMT
#916
Rockets are in a tough position as it's not hard to believe that with CP3 they could have won that series, but if they are forced to offer a super max contract for 5 years to keep him, how many of those years is CP3 going to be worth it? He would be 37 in the last year of that contract and injuries are typically more problematic and longer to recover from the older a player gets. And you regardless of how good next year's regular season goes, no one will care until they can make it to the Finals.

Likewise Capella is up for a contract and rumors are other teams are considering offering him a max deal. As good as he has been, I ultimately look at him more like Ibaka when he was with the Thunder. A very good piece, but take him out of the system and he isn't likely to be a star on his own. But losing him would definitely hurt, and he is young so perhaps he can improve some more.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17815 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-29 12:40:55
May 29 2018 12:39 GMT
#917
On May 29 2018 21:12 karazax wrote:
Rockets are in a tough position as it's not hard to believe that with CP3 they could have won that series, but if they are forced to offer a super max contract for 5 years to keep him, how many of those years is CP3 going to be worth it? He would be 37 in the last year of that contract and injuries are typically more problematic and longer to recover from the older a player gets. And you regardless of how good next year's regular season goes, no one will care until they can make it to the Finals.

Some ESPN guy tracked ~100 PGs over a 10 year time period and PGs under 6'2" do not age well. In particular, their PRODUCTIVITY falls off of a cliff after age 32. Its interesting that Lowry's deal ends at age 33. In the history of the NBA how many 6 foot tall guys do anything after age 32?

Injuries and small players: smaller players must do all kinds of crazy huge leaps and jumps to be relevant as defenders. As the injuries pile up over the years it gets hard for small guys to keep on doing the big leaps and jumps they did in their early 20s. Paul has had an assortment of leg injuries over the years.

i think when it comes to contract time CP3 is going to get the Kyle Lowry treatment: No 5 year deal.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 29 2018 12:57 GMT
#918
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xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
May 29 2018 13:12 GMT
#919
cp3 is not worth the max - age and skills wise.

he is skillful, but not the one that complements the rockets. maybe paul can still adjust?

rockets need someone like lillard.

capela is ok. but now worth max either. and he comes in a bad time of contracts, executives are wary of signing max on potential now as there have been plenty of busts.
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
May 29 2018 13:19 GMT
#920
stats gone wild.

this is the reason why the warriors got kd. it offsets the damage when the 3s are not hitting.

people think kds value is that he is another great scorer but its more than that. kd provides them interior scoring and can stagger there sets with iso and semi iso in order to read the defense and reset.

they often use kds iso as a release valve but sometimes kd gets too in love with it and hogs the ball.

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