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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 03:40:56
May 28 2018 03:40 GMT
#881

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Another day, another black man violently assaulted by five rogue police officers for the ever-increasing crime of BWB (breathing while black). This time it was NBA player Sterling Brown. In January, the Bucks rookie was confronted by Milwaukee police at Walgreens for a parking infraction, which resulted in a compliant Brown being wrestled to the ground, handcuffed, tased, arrested – and given a parking ticket. The recently released police body-cam footage was called “disturbing” by Milwaukee’s mayor. Particularly in a city that Bucks president Peter Feigin once called “the most segregated, racist place I’ve ever experienced in my life”. The officers involved have since been disciplined. Now what? Bygones?

It’s hardly news that people of color are continually harassed, but what’s been making the news lately is the frequency with which upwardly mobile, middle-class people of color are being targeted. From the two black men waiting for a friend at a Philadelphia Starbucks, to a black Yale graduate student napping in her dorm’s common room, to three black women facing down seven cop cars and a helicopter as they checked out out of an Airbnb house they were renting, the victims’ faces on the news are not just the hoodied street thugs that white America expects and can then dismiss. And, while we can be thankful that none of them were killed, there is an overlooked long-lasting collateral damage to the black community’s faith in the promise of the American dream and the sinister effect on their children that is much worse than that single assault.

The American dream pledges that every person in America, regardless of their ethnic, religious, or economic background, will have an equal opportunity to achieve success. There may be obstacles, but they won’t be deliberately aimed at anyone based on the circumstances of birth or belief. That ideal is America’s moral core as well as its most famous public relations branding abroad: a better life awaits all. People in this country – whether natural born or immigrants – work hard to achieve that dream, for themselves and for their families. Once you’re successful, the expectation is financial security, a certain respect, and an elevated degree of personal safety. And that’s exactly what you get – if you’re white. But if you’re a person of color, your skin color is still seen by some as a gang color, the shade a reflection of the darkness in your soul.

Sterling Brown is a professional basketball player with the NBA. Only 1.2% of college players make it that far. He’s an American dream success story, having overcome great odds through hard work, sacrifice, and discipline. He’s a role model for other black kids, not just those who want to be a professional athlete, but those who see that hard work can be rewarded. Yet, there is plenty of evidence that the American dream is blocked by a velvet rope wrapped in razor wire. A study led by researchers at Stanford, Harvard, and the US Census Bureau concluded that even when black boys and white boys grow up in the same neighborhoods, the blacks earn less as adults than whites, even though there is no difference in cognitive abilities. Another study cites the high extent of anxiety, depression, stress, thoughts of suicide, diabetes, and hair loss among black college students competing at predominantly white schools where they feel the burden of not only personal success, but racial success. This phenomenon is referred to as “John Henryism”, after the legendary slave-turned-railroad worker who literally worked himself to death to prove his worth.

Clearly, this is not just a Milwaukee issue. During my six years in Milwaukee playing for the Bucks, I experienced only support from the fans and the team. Except for a minor incident in which a white grocer refused to sell me a bottle of local beer I was buying for a friend, I enjoyed my time as a Milwaukeean. The Brown arrest is only a single thread in a larger tapestry that is spread across America. The Milwaukee police who confronted Sterling Brown weren’t just assaulting the man, they were damaging the dreams of young people of color who imagine a more accepting world on the other side of the finish line. But the loneliness of these long-distance runners just got lonelier, harder and a little more hopeless.

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I don't want to force politics to NBA discussions, but we live in unusual times, and it is now more than ever that we should actively fight against discrimination and harmful thoughts and actions.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 28 2018 03:43 GMT
#882
On May 28 2018 12:14 xwoGworwaTsx wrote:
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On May 28 2018 12:08 Scarecrow wrote:
rockets without cp3 are beatable. Dreading a cavs warriors rematch tho

actually rockets without cp3 seems better. more and quicker possessions and better accuracy on the 3.

see game 6 as example.

and if game 6 is indication, rockets > cavs, if only they could pace better and stretch their rotation beyond 7 men.

wtf are you on about? g6 showed exactly why cp3 is so imporant for the rockets at both ends and they are definitely worse without him. High turnovers and poor guard defense literally lost them the game. Getting hot from 3 for a half doesn't mean they don't need him.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 28 2018 03:43 GMT
#883
On May 28 2018 12:38 xwoGworwaTsx wrote:
i'll answer indirectly but i'll give you the key data points to look at if you want to do your own research and analysis on this

1. look at the quality and frequency of possessions between q1-q3
2. look at the adjustment in sets to get klay and curry get their shots
3. look at how the addition of durant "ruined" this, compared to the last 3 seasons. they still arraive at the same conclusion with durant in the lineup, that is a win, but the points generated and the sets are night and day.

add up sports science on mileage, lactic build up, pacing, and you will have a good idea of the behind the scenes big picture.

Sounds reasonable.

But other than me watching the game and taking down notes every minute and every possession, which no one here has time for to be honest, where can we get stats on this. And is it more probable that the Warriors are just more proficient offensively that they can blow the game open after only three quarters?
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xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
May 28 2018 03:48 GMT
#884
On May 28 2018 12:43 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 12:14 xwoGworwaTsx wrote:
On May 28 2018 12:08 Scarecrow wrote:
rockets without cp3 are beatable. Dreading a cavs warriors rematch tho

actually rockets without cp3 seems better. more and quicker possessions and better accuracy on the 3.

see game 6 as example.

and if game 6 is indication, rockets > cavs, if only they could pace better and stretch their rotation beyond 7 men.

wtf are you on about? g6 showed exactly why cp3 is so imporant for the rockets at both ends and they are definitely worse without him. High turnovers and poor guard defense literally lost them the game. Getting hot from 3 for a half doesn't mean they don't need him.

i didnt say cp3 is not needed.

and the second half implosion has more to do on their short 7 man rotation than anything else.

what we saw in game 6 first half is the rockets playing the ideal morey ball.

they just need to do it all game.

they need more on the roster to do it, but it doesnt necessarily have to be cp3, although he is a great part of the team.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10427 Posts
May 28 2018 03:51 GMT
#885
Warriors have definitely been godly in the 3rd quarter but I don't watch enough Warriors basketball to be able to explain why they are so good in the 3rd compared to the other 3 quarters.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 28 2018 03:56 GMT
#886
Didn't Harden adjust and in now playing well within the Morey ball system?
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
May 28 2018 04:39 GMT
#887
On May 28 2018 12:40 Twinkle Toes wrote:
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On May 28 2018 12:29 zev318 wrote:
warriors have led regular season 3rd quarter +/- for the past 4 years, but only once in the playoffs (this year)

What does this mean?

Other than that the Warriors are so offensively great that they can take the game away only after 3 quarters, I don't see anything of note with this statistics.


well u basically said it was a coincidence that they have great 3rd quarters and that it could happen any quarter, and i searched and if they have led the +/- of 3rd quarters in the last 4 seasons, then its not a coincidence or just them shooting good, cause why not other quarters, why consistently the 3rd? and sure they have led in other quarters but the 3rd is their biggest.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
May 28 2018 04:50 GMT
#888
On May 28 2018 12:51 BlackJack wrote:
Warriors have definitely been godly in the 3rd quarter but I don't watch enough Warriors basketball to be able to explain why they are so good in the 3rd compared to the other 3 quarters.

3rd Quarter used to be the classic Heat-Lebron quarter as well.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 28 2018 07:00 GMT
#889
On May 28 2018 13:39 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 12:40 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On May 28 2018 12:29 zev318 wrote:
warriors have led regular season 3rd quarter +/- for the past 4 years, but only once in the playoffs (this year)

What does this mean?

Other than that the Warriors are so offensively great that they can take the game away only after 3 quarters, I don't see anything of note with this statistics.


well u basically said it was a coincidence that they have great 3rd quarters and that it could happen any quarter, and i searched and if they have led the +/- of 3rd quarters in the last 4 seasons, then its not a coincidence or just them shooting good, cause why not other quarters, why consistently the 3rd? and sure they have led in other quarters but the 3rd is their biggest.

I didn't say "coincidence" I'm just asking if there is any data to support that.
The data that you showed about the Warriors dominating in the 3rd quarter for the past 4 years is merely the end result, as if I understand what you and others are saying here, there is a how and why to this.

It's not as if Curry and the team just suddenly say. "ok c'mon guys, it's the 3rd already" and they just magically make their shots and play better.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 28 2018 09:56 GMT
#890
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16671 Posts
May 28 2018 12:58 GMT
#891
Jeff Green outplayed Love in the Boston series. It'll be interesting to see how much playing time he gets in the finals.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 14:29:16
May 28 2018 13:31 GMT
#892
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16671 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 13:33:59
May 28 2018 13:32 GMT
#893
nah, Green > Love this series.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 28 2018 14:29 GMT
#894
Poll: WCF Game 7, who wins?

Golden State Warriors (7)
 
78%

Houston Rockets (2)
 
22%

9 total votes

Your vote: WCF Game 7, who wins?

(Vote): Houston Rockets
(Vote): Golden State Warriors

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 15:22:32
May 28 2018 15:15 GMT
#895
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 28 2018 15:34 GMT
#896
On May 29 2018 00:15 JimmiC wrote:
I think this game has a chance at breaking some T.V. ratings records for conference finals.

Last night tied some.


No doubt. They don't even have to dress this one up, the anticipation is straight up lunacy!
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16671 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 16:46:25
May 28 2018 16:43 GMT
#897
On May 28 2018 22:31 JimmiC wrote:
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On May 28 2018 21:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Jeff Green outplayed Love in the Boston series. It'll be interesting to see how much playing time he gets in the finals.

Edit: Oh he's just trolling for attention again. I'll ignore him.

no , its a standard comment about NBA basketball. no idea why you are veering off topic. i'm sticking to basketball.

Love's defense was "meh" all series. Love was limited defensively and shot under 40% and was a -20. Green covered more varied types of players effectively. It wasn't hard to be better than Love in this Boston series ... and Green was better.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 28 2018 16:49 GMT
#898
By the way, is there any thing official on why Kyrie was not around for the game last night?
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 28 2018 17:03 GMT
#899
Ainge said deviated septum. 365 days in a year, what a sucky day to schedule a surgery.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 28 2018 17:07 GMT
#900
Interesting crazy silly trivia stuff (in case some don't yet know):

Championship teams since 1985 have always had players who played alongside Shaq.
This year, only one team qualifies: Cleveland Cavaliers

Wow, if it happens!
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