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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
September 14 2017 14:06 GMT
#21
shouldn't the title be "NBA season 2017/18" ?
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 14 2017 18:26 GMT
#22
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 20:02:57
September 14 2017 19:47 GMT
#23
On September 15 2017 03:26 JimmiC wrote:
Thoughts on the top 100 list? I always find it an interesting read. They for sure punish guys who just score, I think Derozn and Melo should be higher then people who fill secondary rolls. But I don't think a ton higher. Overall pretty good and a good read.

there is an SI top 100. and an ESPN top 100. which one are you talking about?
On September 15 2017 03:26 JimmiC wrote: They for sure punish guys who just score, I think Derozn and Melo should be higher then people who fill secondary rolls.

Derozan does more than score. Derozan was the Raptors "quasi-point guard" ( Casey term) during large stretches of the year. He has improved substantially as a playmaker the past 2 years.
On September 15 2017 03:26 JimmiC wrote:
Thoughts on the top 100 list? I always find it an interesting read.

yep, both lists are interesting reading.

no idea how SI has Lillard as better than Lowry. Lowry > Lillard by a lot.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 14 2017 23:55 GMT
#24
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 00:48:46
September 15 2017 00:27 GMT
#25
on game 1 of the season Derozan's defense is below average and DD remains at the same intensity on defense all year. most players move things up another level in the 2nd half of the year and then again in the playoffs. Not Derozan.
https://fansided.com/2017/05/10/nylon-calculus-explaining-raptors-playoff-disasters/

a statistical way of verifying Derozan's poor defense is to examine what happens to every Raptor team mate and his defensive efficiency when they are on the floor with DD. Every Raptor's Defensive Efficiency gets worse in the presence of Derozan.
http://www.82games.com/1617/1617TOR2.HTM

i rank DD as ~ the 22th best starting SG in the NBA on defense. he is not the worst.. but he's close.

i'd say SI has Derozan approximately where he belongs. He deserves some bonus value for being able to play PG now. He has definitely improved as an offensive player the last 2-3 years... especially as a playmaker... but its hard to see with boxscore stats.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
September 15 2017 11:07 GMT
#26
21st imo.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 13:33:07
September 15 2017 13:23 GMT
#27
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 15:30:48
September 15 2017 14:54 GMT
#28
i guess u guys missed the "~".
his defense is bad. good to see 2 other agree
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 16 2017 00:16 GMT
#29
I'm going to keep sleeping on Antetokoumpo until he proves me otherwise.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
September 16 2017 07:54 GMT
#30
Giannis is already a top 10 guy. If he gets a reliable jumper he's close to top 3/4.

Interesting question: Giannis or AD? Who would you prefer to build a team around?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
September 16 2017 10:25 GMT
#31
Giannis made my a believer in last year's playoffs. i'd say he was the best player in the series against Toronto... the guy was awesome.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-16 15:29:11
September 16 2017 15:28 GMT
#32
Oh I'm sure he'll be an All Star for a good long time. I just am sleeping on him being a top 3 player, which is an odd thing to say you're "sleeping" on but it's commensurate with the hypes he's gotten from some people.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 16 2017 18:21 GMT
#33
On September 17 2017 00:28 Jerubaal wrote:
Oh I'm sure he'll be an All Star for a good long time. I just am sleeping on him being a top 3 player, which is an odd thing to say you're "sleeping" on but it's commensurate with the hypes he's gotten from some people.

I agree with you. I like to say that if you asked the every-man, there's 20 top 10 players in the league. It's not an insult to call a guy the 10th best player in the NBA.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 19 2017 20:01 GMT
#34
http://thebiglead.com/2017/09/19/nba-local-tv-revenue-disparity-small-market-big-market/

Shocked that this was leaked this far out from CBA negotiations, but also, its more evidence of how bad Adam Silver is at his job. If Lebron didn't exist, he would already be fired.
Freeeeeeedom
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-19 21:35:06
September 19 2017 21:25 GMT
#35
On September 17 2017 03:21 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2017 00:28 Jerubaal wrote:
Oh I'm sure he'll be an All Star for a good long time. I just am sleeping on him being a top 3 player, which is an odd thing to say you're "sleeping" on but it's commensurate with the hypes he's gotten from some people.

I agree with you. I like to say that if you asked the every-man, there's 20 top 10 players in the league. It's not an insult to call a guy the 10th best player in the NBA.


Hear, hear. I, for one, also subscribe to the notion that top 5 means 5 players only. I don't think Giannis is top 5 yet. If you are in the sorry eastern conference, you have to at least carry your team to the conference finals to be considered top 5. For all the criticism he takes, Lebron has made it to the finals 7 straight times.

On September 20 2017 05:01 cLutZ wrote:
http://thebiglead.com/2017/09/19/nba-local-tv-revenue-disparity-small-market-big-market/

Shocked that this was leaked this far out from CBA negotiations, but also, its more evidence of how bad Adam Silver is at his job. If Lebron didn't exist, he would already be fired.


The Clippers play in the same market, have a better record and have less profits than the Lakers. Some of these owners need to run their teams like an actual business. These guys don't have the right to make a profit just because they have a team. The guy who paid $2.5 billion for his big market team doesn't owe the guy who paid $500 million for his small market team an equal share of league profits. These guys are all supposed to be rich businessmen, even the poorest among them. But somehow, we hand the owners of the less profitable teams a soapbox to whine all the fucking time.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-20 21:23:34
September 20 2017 21:03 GMT
#36
On September 04 2017 02:25 NarutO wrote:
Excuse my double post - anyone knows when the season pass will be available for purchase? Currently the only option I see is buying for the previous season / summer season. Not for the 2017/18 season. In addition it does say "monthly" 29,99 instead of yearly for me :S

information about the NBA League Pass for 2017-18 is now out there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/71d265/league_pass_2017_2018_prices/

"*Excludes all Toronto Raptors and nationally televised games. Learn more about Blackouts (link to support site page)"
which also explains why the prices are dirt cheap in Canada.

https://watch.nba.com/packages?ls=leaguepass:nbacom:3pp:generic:main

the least expensive route for non-Canadians is to use a VPN and appear to be in Canada and buy it that way. this trick method does carry some risk though. No clue what happens if the NBA League Pass people figure out you're not in Canada.
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Gorgonoth
Profile Joined August 2017
United States468 Posts
September 20 2017 22:28 GMT
#37
Man i really hope these finals are more exciting. Last years was lamer than dirt.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 20 2017 23:18 GMT
#38
On September 20 2017 06:25 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2017 03:21 AgentW wrote:
On September 17 2017 00:28 Jerubaal wrote:
Oh I'm sure he'll be an All Star for a good long time. I just am sleeping on him being a top 3 player, which is an odd thing to say you're "sleeping" on but it's commensurate with the hypes he's gotten from some people.

I agree with you. I like to say that if you asked the every-man, there's 20 top 10 players in the league. It's not an insult to call a guy the 10th best player in the NBA.


Hear, hear. I, for one, also subscribe to the notion that top 5 means 5 players only. I don't think Giannis is top 5 yet. If you are in the sorry eastern conference, you have to at least carry your team to the conference finals to be considered top 5. For all the criticism he takes, Lebron has made it to the finals 7 straight times.

Show nested quote +
On September 20 2017 05:01 cLutZ wrote:
http://thebiglead.com/2017/09/19/nba-local-tv-revenue-disparity-small-market-big-market/

Shocked that this was leaked this far out from CBA negotiations, but also, its more evidence of how bad Adam Silver is at his job. If Lebron didn't exist, he would already be fired.


The Clippers play in the same market, have a better record and have less profits than the Lakers. Some of these owners need to run their teams like an actual business. These guys don't have the right to make a profit just because they have a team. The guy who paid $2.5 billion for his big market team doesn't owe the guy who paid $500 million for his small market team an equal share of league profits. These guys are all supposed to be rich businessmen, even the poorest among them. But somehow, we hand the owners of the less profitable teams a soapbox to whine all the fucking time.

The CBA prevents teams from running them like businesses though, which is the problem. The draft and lottery don't help either.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-21 01:59:15
September 21 2017 01:52 GMT
#39
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20768467/injured-philadelphia-76ers-center-joel-embiid-not-cleared-5-5-drills

Joel Embiid's landing mechanics are bad. he had zero opportunity to improve them this off season. Colangelo is very "cavalier" in his talk about how Embiid will get used. My take: Embiid will again hurt his knee and miss a substantial portion of the season. If Embiid plays the back-to-backs like Colangelo says he will and Embiid goes the first 40 games without an injury i'll be shocked.

Embiid's Landing Mechanics ( by the same guy who identified Bryant's bad landing mechanics after his 3rd knee operation). Embiid's pigeon-toed, knees collapsing towards each other landing is an injury waiting to happen.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 21 2017 03:36 GMT
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