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Incoming Money Problems in the NBA
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But the new menu of max offerings isn’t exactly working as intended. The whole point of these changes, from the owners’ POV, was to help teams keep star players by giving them greater financial incentive to stay, thus preventing another scenario like Durant going to the Warriors. But totally deserving candidates, like Paul George and Gordon Hayward, didn’t meet the qualifications for the supermax; George would’ve wanted out anyway, and Hayward walked even with Utah offering an extra year of financial security. The Kings didn’t want to pay Cousins more than $200 million, so they traded him. And Griffin, at “only” 30 percent of the cap, was an injury and financial risk the Clippers weren’t willing to take.
ESPN
"There are going to be a lot of teams who are looking to move money," a general manager said. "And there aren't many places for it to go. So it will be hard to offload salary, and if you want to, the teams with space will probably charge high prices to take money from your books."
All these factors have executives expecting the midlevel exception to be the primary option for many teams looking to add players. But with half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million.
Add it all up, and it's a bad year to be a free agent -- or a team looking to reduce salary.
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Oh wow I'm totally shocked that the cap doesn't go up forever.
/s
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Also, the players could totally run the league just as well, if not better, than the owners.
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That's the unintended consequence. They thought the max would compel players to stay since it's the same everywhere else. Ironically, since it'd be pretty much the same anywhere else, players can now get to choose to play with other players more freely.
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Metta World Peace is going to be on Celebrity Big Brother which premieres tomorrow night
On why he wanted to do Big Brother: What made me want to sign up was it was presented to me by my manager, well partner and manager. And I didn't really know much about the show. I went on YouTube and watched a clip. It's just the unknown is pretty cool.
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On February 06 2018 11:48 Twinkle Toes wrote:
That's the unintended consequence. They thought the max would compel players to stay since it's the same everywhere else. Ironically, since it'd be pretty much the same anywhere else, players can now get to choose to play with other players more freely.
Then they thought a bigger super max would make it easier for teams to keep their star players. Teams ended up trading their star players because they were afraid to pay the super max.
Most of these owners are successful businessmen, right?
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But people have been saying the stars are underpaid.
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They are.
The problem is people have defined down what a star is.
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As tensions mount, the distance between LeBron James and the Cavaliers is growing
Cavs are not talking to him about front office decisions James cursed toward at least two team executives during the late January team meeting in which some players questioned the legitimacy of Kevin Love's illness. James recruited Jamal Crawford but the Cavs ignored him and signed Cadi Osman Lebron wanted Griffin to return as GM, but Gilbert replaced him with Altman.
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Why isn't BOS vs. TOR on national tonight?
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LBJ needs to get the fuck out of Cleveland and ride out the rest of his career somewhere without a shit owner
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Yeah I'm with LBJ on this one. He's got this dumpfire garbage sports organization one championship already and he can do whatever he wants.
To be objective about it, I think this is a monster that has grown too big for anyone to control with both sides equally at fault compounded to astronomical heights by social media. Lebron being anointed by the media at an early age. LBJ trying to reach greatness/goat status. LBJ being mocked for ring chasing. LBJ becoming the villain and winning. Cavs being just a generally shitty organization. Cavs giving LBJ too much control of decisions that no player should make for the team. LBJ having a terrible finals record. Kyrie not wanting to play with LBJ. Old players not contributing as expected. Gilbert already having a trophy. They spectre of Lebron's inevitable second leaving. The albatross contracts in the team.
So yeah. LBJ gets a pass and can be entitled do whatever he wants in Cleveland - they created this monster! (in contrast, see Riley). But it is difficult to consider him in the GOAT debate with all this stuff in his career.
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In what way is Gilbert a shit owner? He paid for everyone LBJ wanted pre-Heat and has done the same post-Heat. He hired a good coaching prospect that had a good record and got a team with injury issues to a 4-2 loss in the finals, then fired that very good coach because of personality issues said coach had with his star player. CLE might be a shitty NBA city, and the Cavs might be a mess, but those things have almost nothing to do with Gilbert. The first is just reality, and the second is 95% on Lebron.
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On February 07 2018 09:55 cLutZ wrote:
In what way is Gilbert a shit owner? He paid for everyone LBJ wanted pre-Heat and has done the same post-Heat. He hired a good coaching prospect that had a good record and got a team with injury issues to a 4-2 loss in the finals, then fired that very good coach because of personality issues said coach had with his star player. CLE might be a shitty NBA city, and the Cavs might be a mess, but those things have almost nothing to do with Gilbert. The first is just reality, and the second is 95% on Lebron.
I also blame LBJ for this mess. But Gilbert allowing him too much reign is a huge factor in all of this.
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I suppose he would have been a "better owner" if he just stuck by a "fuck lebron or anyone who does things I don't like" attitude, but then he still would have no rings and Lebron would have skipped town on the Heat to a different team with a young core and assets. His flaw is he is overcompensating to be Lebron's guy, but Lebron owns ESPN so if he pushed back at all he would instantly be slandered as a mega-Racist (they already have implied as much in numerous articles). Realistically, Lebron ostracized Boozer his first go round in CLE, then kept pushing for win-now moves that tanked the franchise. He left, then came back because they had the best assets in the East, and again began pushing for win-now moves (mostly signing 1 year deals with player options so as to control things), and again ostracized his #2 in Kyrie.
Sure, Gilbert could be better, but when Pat Fucking Riley made a few moves Lebron didn't like he complained to ESPN, ESPN slandered Riley and Erickson as cheapskates, then he booked it to CLE for greener pastures.
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On February 07 2018 10:54 cLutZ wrote:
I suppose he would have been a "better owner" if he just stuck by a "fuck lebron or anyone who does things I don't like" attitude, but then he still would have no rings and Lebron would have skipped town on the Heat to a different team with a young core and assets. His flaw is he is overcompensating to be Lebron's guy, but Lebron owns ESPN so if he pushed back at all he would instantly be slandered as a mega-Racist (they already have implied as much in numerous articles). Realistically, Lebron ostracized Boozer his first go round in CLE, then kept pushing for win-now moves that tanked the franchise. He left, then came back because they had the best assets in the East, and again began pushing for win-now moves (mostly signing 1 year deals with player options so as to control things), and again ostracized his #2 in Kyrie.
Sure, Gilbert could be better, but when Pat Fucking Riley made a few moves Lebron didn't like he complained to ESPN, ESPN slandered Riley and Erickson as cheapskates, then he booked it to CLE for greener pastures.
Maybe that's the difference between good FO's compared to bad ones. Heat is stable, Cavs is a cesspool. And now that you mention it, this is why LBJ's legacy as one of the greatest is tarnished. He is a diva with a posse of asskissers who do everything to protect his corporate image. Having said that, LBJ can do whatever he wants and Gilbert can do the same, they deserve each other.
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Canada17708 Posts
was that Coffey to Gretzky to Kurry and into an empty net?
no, that was VanVleet to Siakam to Poetl.... 
holy fuck what a play...
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It's hard to call Gilbert a shit owner considering how much he has spent on the Cavs roster over the last few years but not retaining David Griffin was a huge mistake
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