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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
July 19 2018 17:52 GMT
#6581
Agents play a fundamental role in football. Saying we should ban them is like saying banks shouldn't exist because... banks bad. Are players supposed to face the upper management and legal teams of multi-hundred-million-Euro corporations and negotiate contracts on their own? Are players and clubs supposed to find deals with one another through craigslist? Is football meant to be the only industry without intermediaries?

I don't think any of the above posts really elaborates a cohesive argument about why they're bad or why someone like Mendes is bad (Raiola is an outspoken asshole and he's bad as a character, which is different).
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-19 18:43:25
July 19 2018 18:40 GMT
#6582
Not ban them, stop the extortianate fees they are taking. With FFP in the game now a £70million transfer for top tier talent, you are paying £20-30million in agent fees on top of that. That is not right.

Plus it also is another way of the "big clubs" can just abuse agents and pay them off to get the top talent that way.

For example Chelsea are using a super agent called Ramadani who Roman is personally friends with him and he is the one buying the Juventus talent for us. Think might have done Jorginho as well.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-19 18:53:29
July 19 2018 18:51 GMT
#6583
Raiola has just a few clients, Mendes has an empire and practically controls clubs like Valencia, Monaco
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 19 2018 18:52 GMT
#6584
Yeah he controls Wolves in England now too, think he the one trying to get into AC Milan last i heard as well.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
July 19 2018 20:02 GMT
#6585
Agents only get paid if clubs and players allow them to. Afaik commissions run on average 10% of transfer fees in Portuguese clubs. I don't see why clubs would allow agents to get such a big share if it was against the club's and the player's interest.

Mendes is powerful because he became the agent of most prospects coming out of Portugal. His work benefited many players climbing their way up to the top of European football, the Portuguese clubs (essentially Porto and Benfica) who have made a killing in transfer fees, and the buying clubs working with him. Would you say that teams like Wolves or Monaco have been wrong to work with him?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-19 21:09:42
July 19 2018 21:09 GMT
#6586


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 20 2018 01:25 GMT
#6587
Well okay...

A transfer to Juventus will not make the Real Madrid forward immune to criminal prosecution over tax arrears, Spain’s Ministry of Finance has warned.

A ministry spokesman, Jose Maria Mollinedo, said that even though the Portuguese international is set to move to Italy, he could still be arrested, the Spanish daily sports newspaper Marca reported.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-20 02:38:16
July 20 2018 01:50 GMT
#6588
On July 20 2018 03:52 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah he controls Wolves in England now too, think he the one trying to get into AC Milan last i heard as well.


The man who sold Bebe for 7 million, what an absolute genius
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 20 2018 11:09 GMT
#6589
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
July 20 2018 12:13 GMT
#6590
On July 20 2018 10:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well okay...

Show nested quote +
A transfer to Juventus will not make the Real Madrid forward immune to criminal prosecution over tax arrears, Spain’s Ministry of Finance has warned.

A ministry spokesman, Jose Maria Mollinedo, said that even though the Portuguese international is set to move to Italy, he could still be arrested, the Spanish daily sports newspaper Marca reported.


Source

Ronaldo sold his mansion + he is looking to stop the construction of his hotel to pay the debt, afaik
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 20 2018 16:18 GMT
#6591
On July 20 2018 20:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/archiert1/status/1020202443840327680


Player prices then were different though. Really no idea why prices have skyrocketed suddenly. 30 million used to mean major deals. Now if you can get a player for 30million, its a steal.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18670 Posts
July 20 2018 16:39 GMT
#6592
Prices sky-rocketed since Neymar deal. It made money worth less than it used to be
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28825 Posts
July 20 2018 16:46 GMT
#6593
On July 19 2018 23:37 sneirac wrote:
Three penalties from CL qualifying yesterday

https://streamable.com/eojfd
https://streamable.com/v7kkf
https://streamable.com/mx49d


watching this game live was unreal
three wrongly given game-deciding penalties given for handball in one half. and the last penalty, on overtime, hits the goalie, then the bar, then edges over the line before bouncing back.

definitely made me miss VAR. I mean there were controversial handballs given during WC too, but at least two of these would have been overturned.
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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
July 20 2018 16:47 GMT
#6594
On July 21 2018 01:39 sharkie wrote:
Prices sky-rocketed since Neymar deal. It made money worth less than it used to be

I'd say prices sky rocketed since the TV deal that split the PL rights between Sky and BT. Last in the league getting £100m per season, that was the season of or before the Pogba trade I think.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
July 20 2018 20:38 GMT
#6595
On July 19 2018 23:37 sneirac wrote:
Three penalties from CL qualifying yesterday

https://streamable.com/eojfd
https://streamable.com/v7kkf
https://streamable.com/mx49d


That's hilarious.

That referee though, looks like a child doing grown-up things.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18670 Posts
July 21 2018 11:24 GMT
#6596
Thank god Schürrle is going to leave BVB.
Probably the worst purchase since BVB's revival.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 21 2018 12:38 GMT
#6597
Bye bye boga. Cahill ruined his Chelsea career with his stupid red. I would have liked him to get more chances...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51625 Posts
July 21 2018 14:03 GMT
#6598
you know the transfer market is fucked when richarlison gets a 50m gbp bid.
then again, it is everton who grossly overspent last season.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 21 2018 15:53 GMT
#6599
On July 21 2018 23:03 GTR wrote:
you know the transfer market is fucked when richarlison gets a 50m gbp bid.
then again, it is everton who grossly overspent last season.


Not worth rofl. That guy's overrated after one decent season. Good enough for mid tier clubs, but won't light up the stage like how mahrez did.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 21 2018 16:12 GMT
#6600
On July 22 2018 00:53 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2018 23:03 GTR wrote:
you know the transfer market is fucked when richarlison gets a 50m gbp bid.
then again, it is everton who grossly overspent last season.


Not worth rofl. That guy's overrated after one decent season. Good enough for mid tier clubs, but won't light up the stage like how mahrez did.

Not even that, he lost his starting spot after like February... If that actually goes through i can only call it karma for them distrupting Watford's form with their poaching.
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