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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 14 2017 09:05 GMT
#441
But Ronaldo was contacted? He clearly got a coming together with his hip on Umtiti's hip, which would probably un steady him enough to go to floor / stumble due to the speed. Not a penalty no, but it aint a dive if there is contact, so it shouldn't be a yellow card, just no penalty.
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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-14 09:15:29
August 14 2017 09:07 GMT
#442
So how does that justify the shove?

e: previously posted replay does not include it, so: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/edlpzn
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
August 14 2017 09:18 GMT
#443
On August 14 2017 17:58 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 16:47 Pandemona wrote:
For me the ronaldo situation should have been handed simpler. Did that what happened deserve to see Ronaldo off the pitch, no it did not. There was contact enough to maybe make him fall, but never a penalty. However to send him off for that is very harsh.
Plus due to the nature of the game is technically a friendly as well and now Ronaldo can't play in the next leg xD

No. Fuck diving and fuck players asking for penalties. Yellow card seems completely justified.

And yes, Suarez should have gotten one too. But this is football, a contact sport, not glee club...

There was no dive, obviously there was body contact. Not a foul, but not a dive either. Asking for a foul can leave to yellow card... but to send a player off for that... kind of harsh. Basically the ref really wanted to give the red card. Most of the time(if the ref is unbiased of course) this is no foul and play on. Probably verbal warning.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 14 2017 09:19 GMT
#444
Nothing justifies the shove, that is 2nd yellow card / straight red card worthy 100% but he might / probably doesn't do that if ref gives no penalty as game would continue. Would have been ronaldo on floor for 5 minutes in a rage / tantrum as normal.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 14 2017 09:24 GMT
#445
Yeah the shove is a big deal, they already have a tough time to find amateur referees in some areas because of agressive players.You can't let that go

You're pointing ref mistakes but Ronaldo's mistake is way bigger. Don't touch the ref, even more if you're the idol of millions of kids.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
August 14 2017 09:56 GMT
#446
seems like clear precedent to give ronaldo 4 matches for that shove. it's a weak shove and it's noted as one, so going up to 6-12 matches would be excessive. doesn't matter whether the red card was justified or not. I think it's fair that he got the second yellow myself (would also be fair if he didn't - it's a difficult to call situation), but I also get why real fans are upset because Suarez got a penalty for pretty much the same thing..
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
August 14 2017 10:11 GMT
#447
lol I'm upset bacause Suarez doing dirty shit all over again
but that's okay i guess since Barca got rekt
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3977 Posts
August 14 2017 10:19 GMT
#448
On August 14 2017 18:56 Liquid`Drone wrote:
seems like clear precedent to give ronaldo 4 matches for that shove. it's a weak shove and it's noted as one, so going up to 6-12 matches would be excessive. doesn't matter whether the red card was justified or not. I think it's fair that he got the second yellow myself (would also be fair if he didn't - it's a difficult to call situation), but I also get why real fans are upset because Suarez got a penalty for pretty much the same thing..


The one with Suarez was a clear dive in the replay. Video ref moment and yellow card for Suarez for me. With Ronaldo, it's hard to call, even after viewing multiple times. And they will need to ban him for that shove, if only to set an example. But I don't think it'll be a long ban, given it wasn't much of a shove and everyone wants to see him play.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
August 14 2017 10:32 GMT
#449
ya I can agree that suarez' situation is a more clear dive. He's one of the biggest cheaters in the game imo. Ronaldo's case is definitely not a penalty, 50/50 ish whether its a dive. but yeah, the shove has to be punished regardless of whether he was supposed to be sent off, so it's totally irrelevant.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 14 2017 10:37 GMT
#450
Well yeah the shove is 100% disgraceful act from the (joint) best player in football. He has to many children in the game looking up for him to be doing that to a referee.

However it doesn't happen if the ref does the right thing and shakes his head and lets play continue. But still no excuse still of course and i hope he does get 3-4 game ban for that. I doubt it though it's La Liga, it's a very bent league in terms of punishments for Madrid and Barcelona.
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
August 14 2017 10:45 GMT
#451
LaLiga's biggest problem is lack of stable high level refs who capable of doing their job right under the pressure
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 14 2017 10:47 GMT
#452
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
August 14 2017 11:11 GMT
#453
On August 14 2017 19:45 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
LaLiga's biggest problem is lack of stable high level refs who capable of doing their job right under the pressure


Yeah, refs like yesterday's spark even more hate between Real and Barca fans. If Suarez had gotten a yellow before CRonaldo almost no one would cry about ronaldo's red. But this way it seems favoured towards Barca once again.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 14 2017 11:50 GMT
#454
Suarez' dive was world class though. I don't think many ref could judge it properly. He's the best diver in the business by a few miles imo.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 14 2017 11:56 GMT
#455
On August 14 2017 06:52 nojok wrote:
Go Barcelona, you still have 2 days to buy new players!

Here you go
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 14 2017 12:03 GMT
#456
About time Paulinho came back to the big time. Guy is the best defensive midfielder in Brazil for me by a country mile. Technically sound, good engine, great passing ability and can pop up with a goal.
Yet somehow there is Fernandinho at City for example who is a walking red card, doesns't score, can barely pass sideways correctly and is rated highly? xD
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 14 2017 12:09 GMT
#457
That's Paulinho from the national team which Tite knew before from Corinthians, which was a special need from him.

Not sure about the Chinese league one tbh.

But 40m for a 29yo guy from the chinese league ? Yah, no.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-14 12:11:49
August 14 2017 12:11 GMT
#458
It's as historical as Neymar's transfer : first time a Chinese club scams an European one!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
August 14 2017 12:20 GMT
#459
On August 14 2017 21:09 Faruko wrote:
That's Paulinho from the national team which Tite knew before from Corinthians, which was a special need from him.

Not sure about the Chinese league one tbh.

But 40m for a 29yo guy from the chinese league ? Yah, no.

It's the same player? There is only one Paulinho xD
Was at Spurs for 1 season then went to China for some reason
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city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
August 14 2017 12:24 GMT
#460
He's one of the worst players ever to play for Spurs. This transfer makes no sense whatsoever.
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