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On August 14 2017 06:53 warding wrote:
There was contact which made him fall. It's normal to ask for a foul, asking does not make it a dive.
This Real looks scary and this Barça looks past it.
I didnt see much contact. Certainly nothing warranting a foul appeal... please share.. So I can replay it every time people complain about Barca dives that generally come under some kind of contact.
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On August 14 2017 06:53 warding wrote:
There was contact which made him fall. It's normal to ask for a foul, asking does not make it a dive.
This Real looks scary and this Barça looks past it.
No it's not normal to ask for a foul if the contact is fair, wtf are you talking about?
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Barca have made themselves too dependant on Messi ever since David Villa left and are starting to get the side effects of it as Messi is too old to keep carrying every match
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On August 14 2017 06:52 nojok wrote:
Go Barcelona, you still have 2 days to buy new players!
They can start with buying 2 central defenders... These two clowns won't do.
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On August 14 2017 06:56 Pr0wler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 06:52 nojok wrote:
Go Barcelona, you still have 2 days to buy new players! The can start with buying 2 central defenders... These two clowns won't do.
Doesnt matter who you put in 2 v 2s with 60% the pitch available any top team will punish you. And Real is probably the best counter team in history with the players they have..
Try giving Messi that kind of space.. no one would ever dare..
they are missing Neymar and are pitifully weak in Midfield compared to Real. Real wasnt even full strength for most of the game. Bad news for the season.
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On August 14 2017 06:58 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 06:56 Pr0wler wrote:On August 14 2017 06:52 nojok wrote:
Go Barcelona, you still have 2 days to buy new players! The can start with buying 2 central defenders... These two clowns won't do. Doesnt matter who you put in 2 v 2s with 60% the pitch available any top team will punish you. And Real is probably the best counter team in history with the players they have.. Try giving Messi that kind of space.. no one would ever dare..
Not even talking about the counters... They are just bad players in general.
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On August 14 2017 07:00 Pr0wler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 06:58 Rebs wrote:On August 14 2017 06:56 Pr0wler wrote:On August 14 2017 06:52 nojok wrote:
Go Barcelona, you still have 2 days to buy new players! The can start with buying 2 central defenders... These two clowns won't do. Doesnt matter who you put in 2 v 2s with 60% the pitch available any top team will punish you. And Real is probably the best counter team in history with the players they have.. Try giving Messi that kind of space.. no one would ever dare.. Not even talking about the counters... They are just bad players in general.
I dont see any reason to believe that..
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On August 14 2017 07:01 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 07:00 Pr0wler wrote:On August 14 2017 06:58 Rebs wrote:On August 14 2017 06:56 Pr0wler wrote:On August 14 2017 06:52 nojok wrote:
Go Barcelona, you still have 2 days to buy new players! The can start with buying 2 central defenders... These two clowns won't do. Doesnt matter who you put in 2 v 2s with 60% the pitch available any top team will punish you. And Real is probably the best counter team in history with the players they have.. Try giving Messi that kind of space.. no one would ever dare.. Not even talking about the counters... They are just bad players in general. I dont see any reason to believe that..
Well with Pique at least no one has mentioned him being a good defender ever since Puyol retired.
I still laugh at people who thought he is good when it was actually all Puyol's work.
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On August 14 2017 06:56 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 06:53 warding wrote:
There was contact which made him fall. It's normal to ask for a foul, asking does not make it a dive.
This Real looks scary and this Barça looks past it. No it's not normal to ask for a foul if the contact is fair, wtf are you talking about?
You can fall from contact and feel it's unfair even if from an outside perspective it is fair, can't you?
Replay: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/yrpwvm
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On August 14 2017 07:03 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 07:01 Rebs wrote:On August 14 2017 07:00 Pr0wler wrote:On August 14 2017 06:58 Rebs wrote:On August 14 2017 06:56 Pr0wler wrote:On August 14 2017 06:52 nojok wrote:
Go Barcelona, you still have 2 days to buy new players! The can start with buying 2 central defenders... These two clowns won't do. Doesnt matter who you put in 2 v 2s with 60% the pitch available any top team will punish you. And Real is probably the best counter team in history with the players they have.. Try giving Messi that kind of space.. no one would ever dare.. Not even talking about the counters... They are just bad players in general. I dont see any reason to believe that.. Well with Pique at least no one has mentioned him being a good defender ever since Puyol retired. I still laugh at people who thought he is good when it was actually all Puyol's work.
Dono about that. Hes as good as it gets really. If your criticism of him not being able to handle being left on island all the time then I cant say. Guys like JT and Puyol dont come around all the time.I cant think of people who would do much better being left on an Island..
On August 14 2017 07:06 warding wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 06:56 nojok wrote:On August 14 2017 06:53 warding wrote:
There was contact which made him fall. It's normal to ask for a foul, asking does not make it a dive.
This Real looks scary and this Barça looks past it. No it's not normal to ask for a foul if the contact is fair, wtf are you talking about? You can fall from contact and feel it's unfair even if from an outside perspective it is fair, can't you? Replay: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/yrpwvm
Perfect thanks. Im going to hold on to that one. This post and clip was exactly what I needed. I am going to enjoy this year.
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On August 14 2017 07:06 warding wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 06:56 nojok wrote:On August 14 2017 06:53 warding wrote:
There was contact which made him fall. It's normal to ask for a foul, asking does not make it a dive.
This Real looks scary and this Barça looks past it. No it's not normal to ask for a foul if the contact is fair, wtf are you talking about? You can fall from contact and feel it's unfair even if from an outside perspective it is fair, can't you? Replay: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/yrpwvm
I'm not seeing much in that if I'm honest. I need a better angle to see if his foot got clipped, but I think the yellow is fair.
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On August 14 2017 07:07 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 07:03 sharkie wrote:On August 14 2017 07:01 Rebs wrote:On August 14 2017 07:00 Pr0wler wrote:On August 14 2017 06:58 Rebs wrote:On August 14 2017 06:56 Pr0wler wrote:On August 14 2017 06:52 nojok wrote:
Go Barcelona, you still have 2 days to buy new players! The can start with buying 2 central defenders... These two clowns won't do. Doesnt matter who you put in 2 v 2s with 60% the pitch available any top team will punish you. And Real is probably the best counter team in history with the players they have.. Try giving Messi that kind of space.. no one would ever dare.. Not even talking about the counters... They are just bad players in general. I dont see any reason to believe that.. Well with Pique at least no one has mentioned him being a good defender ever since Puyol retired. I still laugh at people who thought he is good when it was actually all Puyol's work. Dono about that. Hes as good as it gets really. If your criticism of him not being able to handle being left on island all the time then I cant say. Guys like JT and Puyol dont come around all the time.I cant think of people who would do much better being left on an Island..
Yeah he is the best. I hope they keep him 
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Well i think the match said it all... Barcelona is going through some tough time after Neymar left. The fact is that with one less threat up front, their opponent has less to worry about and thus in turn their defense suffers a higher pressure. Also it doesn't help that Madrid has the best and deepest line-up in the world at the moment. Their subs look like they could contest the title themselves to be honest.
/edit: cheap shot but i couldn't resist XD
![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/IQ7jFJWHE3DTa/giphy.gif)
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Ignoring the fact that cutting the ball back was the better play. Thats a 50-50 play for pretty much any defender on the planet.. Not that Pique excels at that anyway..
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I don't know what people have been smoking, but the game was pretty even to me. 2 amazing goals in 'easy' (you still need the talent to do what CR and Asensio did) counter-attacks, but apart from that, nothing crazy. Also it's just a pre-season game, no one cares. It just hurts a bit more on Barça side after the Neymar business.
Obviously nice dive from Suarez, but what Cristiano did was just hilarious. The Messi complex is so strong he had to get a ridiculous yellow and then a red.
My biggest problem this game was that it looks like it's back to the Messi false 9 tactics. There was absolutely no one to take the right wing (Vidal was playing more defense to counter Marcelo I guess), and they completely ignored the left one. Deulofeu had no chance to shine, and when Denis Suarez took his place, it wasn't much better. This Barça is too predictable, they only go through the center... That doesn't work against Real. Makes me fear the worst; Luis Enrique took 6 months and a big fight to finally be able to put the normal 4-3-3 with Messi on the right. Now it looks like it's going to be the same "Messi is above all" bs with Valverde. Also Iniesta is getting old.
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Pandemona
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For me the ronaldo situation should have been handed simpler. Did that what happened deserve to see Ronaldo off the pitch, no it did not. There was contact enough to maybe make him fall, but never a penalty. However to send him off for that is very harsh.
Plus due to the nature of the game is technically a friendly as well and now Ronaldo can't play in the next leg xD
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Ronaldo should get a nice, long ban for shoving the ref
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On August 14 2017 16:47 Pandemona wrote:
For me the ronaldo situation should have been handed simpler. Did that what happened deserve to see Ronaldo off the pitch, no it did not. There was contact enough to maybe make him fall, but never a penalty. However to send him off for that is very harsh.
Plus due to the nature of the game is technically a friendly as well and now Ronaldo can't play in the next leg xD
No. Fuck diving and fuck players asking for penalties. Yellow card seems completely justified.
And yes, Suarez should have gotten one too. But this is football, a contact sport, not glee club...
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Referee apparently recorded shove in official report so Spanish FA can't ignore it. 4-12 game ban across all national competitions tho Real (Barca, Deportivo, Valencia, Levante next four).
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EPT
