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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
March 16 2018 22:04 GMT
#4401
Yeah there are heavy discriminations against afro descendants, otherwise France would have won more than one world cup. Our best player received a red card in the 2006 world cup final and guess what? He's an afro descendant. Poor man has been relegated to the B team of his club because of this. Though he's back in the main squad now but he never leaves the bench, I hope he's ok.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
March 16 2018 23:26 GMT
#4402
Rofl
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 02:07:27
March 17 2018 02:05 GMT
#4403
On March 17 2018 06:23 N1E wrote:
"Brazil is bad at football"
I reckon I answered:
5 World Cups
4 Confederation Cups
6 Olympic Medals
10 World Club Championships
Not to mention the continental titles... Br cheats locally, outside all CBF does is sell themselves to profit from bribery. The ones who cheat the entire planet are the ones hosting the FIFA center.

As for "BR racism", perhaps I misjudged the term but it was still (unmoderated, especially until I answered) a derogatory generalization of my country. And arent you from Pakistan, hows it much different than being calling a p***? Still both ad hominem, with you provoking it in the 1st place.

+ Show Spoiler +

I would refrain from taking issue with ad hominem, you literally have them every other sentence. If you do believe that those references are ad hominems 90 percent of your posting is pretty worthless the remaining 10 percent is conspiratorial rubbish

If you dont know the difference between the terms or their usage then I would refrain from using them :p. Racism is bad, racism born of ignorance is worse. You dont need me to explain it to you, just use google.

Brazil still bad at football, thats why all the good players leave for Europe.

The only alternative reason for them leaving is Money? So Brazillian footballers so honor less that they are willing to play against cheaters just to get more money?


On the reason I actually came here, Ive been having alot of Mou press conferences and quotes since the Seville game that are less than savoury to the club itself. And then ofcourse the internet went wild and started quoting stuff that contradicted what he was saying now to his comments in the past.

Seems rather lame to deflect on your club when your approach is questioned. Its a pretty shitty tactic if im honest.

All he could say to defend himself was look where we were look where we are, we arent where we want to be, we are working on it, lets move on. Instead its all this meandering mono logging about heritage and this and that.


sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
March 17 2018 02:35 GMT
#4404
BVB are missing kagawa so much, gotze is probably one of the biggest wastes of talent Germany has ever produced.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
March 17 2018 04:40 GMT
#4405
On March 17 2018 11:05 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 06:23 N1E wrote:
"Brazil is bad at football"
I reckon I answered:
5 World Cups
4 Confederation Cups
6 Olympic Medals
10 World Club Championships
Not to mention the continental titles... Br cheats locally, outside all CBF does is sell themselves to profit from bribery. The ones who cheat the entire planet are the ones hosting the FIFA center.

As for "BR racism", perhaps I misjudged the term but it was still (unmoderated, especially until I answered) a derogatory generalization of my country. And arent you from Pakistan, hows it much different than being calling a p***? Still both ad hominem, with you provoking it in the 1st place.

+ Show Spoiler +

I would refrain from taking issue with ad hominem, you literally have them every other sentence. If you do believe that those references are ad hominems 90 percent of your posting is pretty worthless the remaining 10 percent is conspiratorial rubbish

If you dont know the difference between the terms or their usage then I would refrain from using them :p. Racism is bad, racism born of ignorance is worse. You dont need me to explain it to you, just use google.

Brazil still bad at football, thats why all the good players leave for Europe.

The only alternative reason for them leaving is Money? So Brazillian footballers so honor less that they are willing to play against cheaters just to get more money?


On the reason I actually came here, Ive been having alot of Mou press conferences and quotes since the Seville game that are less than savoury to the club itself. And then ofcourse the internet went wild and started quoting stuff that contradicted what he was saying now to his comments in the past.

Seems rather lame to deflect on your club when your approach is questioned. Its a pretty shitty tactic if im honest.

All he could say to defend himself was look where we were look where we are, we arent where we want to be, we are working on it, lets move on. Instead its all this meandering mono logging about heritage and this and that.



I think we lost Mou a few years ago. He did win the league with Chelsea but he was already gone in his mind after his stint at Madrid. He was always playing the victim and it was fun to watch but at Madrid he when too far, and now no one is entertained anymore. Every press conference is ridiculous, his thing with Conte was stupid, even more so when they're (both) that far from winning the league.

I don't understand if ManU keeps him for the next season. I'm already surprised they signed him, knowing how he plays his teams. I'm also surprised they didn't fire him after what he said post Sevilla game. The richest club on earth deserves better.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8866 Posts
March 17 2018 05:55 GMT
#4406
On March 17 2018 13:40 WillyWanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 11:05 Rebs wrote:
On March 17 2018 06:23 N1E wrote:
"Brazil is bad at football"
I reckon I answered:
5 World Cups
4 Confederation Cups
6 Olympic Medals
10 World Club Championships
Not to mention the continental titles... Br cheats locally, outside all CBF does is sell themselves to profit from bribery. The ones who cheat the entire planet are the ones hosting the FIFA center.

As for "BR racism", perhaps I misjudged the term but it was still (unmoderated, especially until I answered) a derogatory generalization of my country. And arent you from Pakistan, hows it much different than being calling a p***? Still both ad hominem, with you provoking it in the 1st place.

+ Show Spoiler +

I would refrain from taking issue with ad hominem, you literally have them every other sentence. If you do believe that those references are ad hominems 90 percent of your posting is pretty worthless the remaining 10 percent is conspiratorial rubbish

If you dont know the difference between the terms or their usage then I would refrain from using them :p. Racism is bad, racism born of ignorance is worse. You dont need me to explain it to you, just use google.

Brazil still bad at football, thats why all the good players leave for Europe.

The only alternative reason for them leaving is Money? So Brazillian footballers so honor less that they are willing to play against cheaters just to get more money?


On the reason I actually came here, Ive been having alot of Mou press conferences and quotes since the Seville game that are less than savoury to the club itself. And then ofcourse the internet went wild and started quoting stuff that contradicted what he was saying now to his comments in the past.

Seems rather lame to deflect on your club when your approach is questioned. Its a pretty shitty tactic if im honest.

All he could say to defend himself was look where we were look where we are, we arent where we want to be, we are working on it, lets move on. Instead its all this meandering mono logging about heritage and this and that.



I think we lost Mou a few years ago. He did win the league with Chelsea but he was already gone in his mind after his stint at Madrid. He was always playing the victim and it was fun to watch but at Madrid he when too far, and now no one is entertained anymore. Every press conference is ridiculous, his thing with Conte was stupid, even more so when they're (both) that far from winning the league.

I don't understand if ManU keeps him for the next season. I'm already surprised they signed him, knowing how he plays his teams. I'm also surprised they didn't fire him after what he said post Sevilla game. The richest club on earth deserves better.

who could replace him? the only thing more lacking than world class players is world class managers
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
March 17 2018 08:01 GMT
#4407
You can become a hero in blog section N1E
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
March 17 2018 11:01 GMT
#4408
On March 17 2018 14:55 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 13:40 WillyWanker wrote:
On March 17 2018 11:05 Rebs wrote:
On March 17 2018 06:23 N1E wrote:
"Brazil is bad at football"
I reckon I answered:
5 World Cups
4 Confederation Cups
6 Olympic Medals
10 World Club Championships
Not to mention the continental titles... Br cheats locally, outside all CBF does is sell themselves to profit from bribery. The ones who cheat the entire planet are the ones hosting the FIFA center.

As for "BR racism", perhaps I misjudged the term but it was still (unmoderated, especially until I answered) a derogatory generalization of my country. And arent you from Pakistan, hows it much different than being calling a p***? Still both ad hominem, with you provoking it in the 1st place.

+ Show Spoiler +

I would refrain from taking issue with ad hominem, you literally have them every other sentence. If you do believe that those references are ad hominems 90 percent of your posting is pretty worthless the remaining 10 percent is conspiratorial rubbish

If you dont know the difference between the terms or their usage then I would refrain from using them :p. Racism is bad, racism born of ignorance is worse. You dont need me to explain it to you, just use google.

Brazil still bad at football, thats why all the good players leave for Europe.

The only alternative reason for them leaving is Money? So Brazillian footballers so honor less that they are willing to play against cheaters just to get more money?


On the reason I actually came here, Ive been having alot of Mou press conferences and quotes since the Seville game that are less than savoury to the club itself. And then ofcourse the internet went wild and started quoting stuff that contradicted what he was saying now to his comments in the past.

Seems rather lame to deflect on your club when your approach is questioned. Its a pretty shitty tactic if im honest.

All he could say to defend himself was look where we were look where we are, we arent where we want to be, we are working on it, lets move on. Instead its all this meandering mono logging about heritage and this and that.



I think we lost Mou a few years ago. He did win the league with Chelsea but he was already gone in his mind after his stint at Madrid. He was always playing the victim and it was fun to watch but at Madrid he when too far, and now no one is entertained anymore. Every press conference is ridiculous, his thing with Conte was stupid, even more so when they're (both) that far from winning the league.

I don't understand if ManU keeps him for the next season. I'm already surprised they signed him, knowing how he plays his teams. I'm also surprised they didn't fire him after what he said post Sevilla game. The richest club on earth deserves better.

who could replace him? the only thing more lacking than world class players is world class managers

As an United fan, I would give Pochettino absurd amount of money to join us and let him have free reigns. I may be wrong, but he seems like a great manager and could get the best out of that squad.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 17 2018 11:06 GMT
#4409
I loved Mourinho 12 minute rant yesterday was actually amazing. Highly recommened if you haven't heard it or even just read the snippets. Things like;
"I am not going to run away or disappear or to cry because I heard a few boos, I'm not going to disappear from the tunnel, running immediately, the next match I will be the first to go out. I am not afraid of my responsibilities," said Mourinho.

"In the last seven years the worst position of Manchester City in the Premier League was fourth, in the last seven years Manchester City was champions twice and if you want to say three times, they were second twice.

"That's heritage. Do you know what is also heritage? Is that Nicolas Otamendi, Kevin De Bruyne, Fernandinho, David Silva, Raheem Sterling, Sergio Aguero, they are investments from the past, not from the last two years, do you know how many of United players that left the club last season? See where they play, how they play, if they play.


Glorious Mourinho rants :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
March 17 2018 11:37 GMT
#4410
Mourinho when he was hired

"It would be easy and pragmatic to point at the last three years. But I am not good at that aspect. I want to be more aggressive, we want to win titles.

"I have to prove things to myself, not to others. That's my nature. I would never be able to work without success. I always ask things of myself and of others, that’s in my nature.

"I could be defensive and point at our results in the past three years, but I cannot do that.

"When people have had a certain menu for years, you must improve the menu if you want to change it. Success has been normal at Man United. We want to forget about the last three years. The players must not think about doing better and finishing fourth, that is not the aim."


Yesterday

"Out in the group phase in 2013 out at Old Trafford in the last 16, I was on the other bench. In 2014, out in the Quarter Final. In 2015, no European football. In 2016, comes back to European football, out in the group phase, goes to Europa League and on the second knockout out of the Europa League. In 2017, play Europa League, win Europa League with me and goes back to CL."

Also nicely summarized by a United fan on reddit:

"Attacked for longer in his press conference than in 180 minutes vs Sevilla"


And as a bonus

Mourinho: 'We went out to a side that's more successful than Manchester United in last seven years in Europe... In Sevilla, there are many players who would play in my team.'

"Mourinho is not an asshole he is a genius trying to deflect blame from his players and motivate them"
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
March 17 2018 12:01 GMT
#4411
On March 17 2018 04:58 Pandemona wrote:
....Yet he takes him away in replace of 2 un capped centre backs and Joe Gomez who doesn't even play for Liverpool....in which it is Liverpool defense which is awful xD

/rant

How would you rate Joe Gomez´ performance so far for England?
"NO" -Has
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 12:27:50
March 17 2018 12:24 GMT
#4412
On March 17 2018 20:06 Pandemona wrote:
I loved Mourinho 12 minute rant yesterday was actually amazing. Highly recommened if you haven't heard it or even just read the snippets. Things like;
Show nested quote +
"I am not going to run away or disappear or to cry because I heard a few boos, I'm not going to disappear from the tunnel, running immediately, the next match I will be the first to go out. I am not afraid of my responsibilities," said Mourinho.

"In the last seven years the worst position of Manchester City in the Premier League was fourth, in the last seven years Manchester City was champions twice and if you want to say three times, they were second twice.

"That's heritage. Do you know what is also heritage? Is that Nicolas Otamendi, Kevin De Bruyne, Fernandinho, David Silva, Raheem Sterling, Sergio Aguero, they are investments from the past, not from the last two years, do you know how many of United players that left the club last season? See where they play, how they play, if they play.


Glorious Mourinho rants :D

Tbh United fans are kinda expecting being top tier lvl1 champions league winner material in 1 fucking season.

They have been in the dumpster and are finally taking their head of the hole they were post SAF, of course the road will be bumpy and you'll fail from time to time, but what can you really do 🤷🏻‍♂️

I mean, this United is far better than Van Gaal's (not even going to count Moyes)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
March 17 2018 12:43 GMT
#4413
It is known guys... Whenever a Mou team flops big Mou says this and that in media so ppl talk about him instead of the shitty display on field. Since 2004.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 17 2018 12:49 GMT
#4414
On March 17 2018 21:01 kyllinghest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 04:58 Pandemona wrote:
....Yet he takes him away in replace of 2 un capped centre backs and Joe Gomez who doesn't even play for Liverpool....in which it is Liverpool defense which is awful xD

/rant

How would you rate Joe Gomez´ performance so far for England?

Played 1 game when he came on for someone who got injured in a back 3, did ok. Was one game vs Brazil in which we sat and laughed at how bad they were lol
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
March 17 2018 14:13 GMT
#4415
On March 17 2018 20:01 Kotreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:55 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On March 17 2018 13:40 WillyWanker wrote:
On March 17 2018 11:05 Rebs wrote:
On March 17 2018 06:23 N1E wrote:
"Brazil is bad at football"
I reckon I answered:
5 World Cups
4 Confederation Cups
6 Olympic Medals
10 World Club Championships
Not to mention the continental titles... Br cheats locally, outside all CBF does is sell themselves to profit from bribery. The ones who cheat the entire planet are the ones hosting the FIFA center.

As for "BR racism", perhaps I misjudged the term but it was still (unmoderated, especially until I answered) a derogatory generalization of my country. And arent you from Pakistan, hows it much different than being calling a p***? Still both ad hominem, with you provoking it in the 1st place.

+ Show Spoiler +

I would refrain from taking issue with ad hominem, you literally have them every other sentence. If you do believe that those references are ad hominems 90 percent of your posting is pretty worthless the remaining 10 percent is conspiratorial rubbish

If you dont know the difference between the terms or their usage then I would refrain from using them :p. Racism is bad, racism born of ignorance is worse. You dont need me to explain it to you, just use google.

Brazil still bad at football, thats why all the good players leave for Europe.

The only alternative reason for them leaving is Money? So Brazillian footballers so honor less that they are willing to play against cheaters just to get more money?


On the reason I actually came here, Ive been having alot of Mou press conferences and quotes since the Seville game that are less than savoury to the club itself. And then ofcourse the internet went wild and started quoting stuff that contradicted what he was saying now to his comments in the past.

Seems rather lame to deflect on your club when your approach is questioned. Its a pretty shitty tactic if im honest.

All he could say to defend himself was look where we were look where we are, we arent where we want to be, we are working on it, lets move on. Instead its all this meandering mono logging about heritage and this and that.



I think we lost Mou a few years ago. He did win the league with Chelsea but he was already gone in his mind after his stint at Madrid. He was always playing the victim and it was fun to watch but at Madrid he when too far, and now no one is entertained anymore. Every press conference is ridiculous, his thing with Conte was stupid, even more so when they're (both) that far from winning the league.

I don't understand if ManU keeps him for the next season. I'm already surprised they signed him, knowing how he plays his teams. I'm also surprised they didn't fire him after what he said post Sevilla game. The richest club on earth deserves better.

who could replace him? the only thing more lacking than world class players is world class managers

As an United fan, I would give Pochettino absurd amount of money to join us and let him have free reigns. I may be wrong, but he seems like a great manager and could get the best out of that squad.


Pay someone who has never won anything?
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
March 17 2018 15:05 GMT
#4416
On March 17 2018 23:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 20:01 Kotreb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:55 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On March 17 2018 13:40 WillyWanker wrote:
On March 17 2018 11:05 Rebs wrote:
On March 17 2018 06:23 N1E wrote:
"Brazil is bad at football"
I reckon I answered:
5 World Cups
4 Confederation Cups
6 Olympic Medals
10 World Club Championships
Not to mention the continental titles... Br cheats locally, outside all CBF does is sell themselves to profit from bribery. The ones who cheat the entire planet are the ones hosting the FIFA center.

As for "BR racism", perhaps I misjudged the term but it was still (unmoderated, especially until I answered) a derogatory generalization of my country. And arent you from Pakistan, hows it much different than being calling a p***? Still both ad hominem, with you provoking it in the 1st place.

+ Show Spoiler +

I would refrain from taking issue with ad hominem, you literally have them every other sentence. If you do believe that those references are ad hominems 90 percent of your posting is pretty worthless the remaining 10 percent is conspiratorial rubbish

If you dont know the difference between the terms or their usage then I would refrain from using them :p. Racism is bad, racism born of ignorance is worse. You dont need me to explain it to you, just use google.

Brazil still bad at football, thats why all the good players leave for Europe.

The only alternative reason for them leaving is Money? So Brazillian footballers so honor less that they are willing to play against cheaters just to get more money?


On the reason I actually came here, Ive been having alot of Mou press conferences and quotes since the Seville game that are less than savoury to the club itself. And then ofcourse the internet went wild and started quoting stuff that contradicted what he was saying now to his comments in the past.

Seems rather lame to deflect on your club when your approach is questioned. Its a pretty shitty tactic if im honest.

All he could say to defend himself was look where we were look where we are, we arent where we want to be, we are working on it, lets move on. Instead its all this meandering mono logging about heritage and this and that.



I think we lost Mou a few years ago. He did win the league with Chelsea but he was already gone in his mind after his stint at Madrid. He was always playing the victim and it was fun to watch but at Madrid he when too far, and now no one is entertained anymore. Every press conference is ridiculous, his thing with Conte was stupid, even more so when they're (both) that far from winning the league.

I don't understand if ManU keeps him for the next season. I'm already surprised they signed him, knowing how he plays his teams. I'm also surprised they didn't fire him after what he said post Sevilla game. The richest club on earth deserves better.

who could replace him? the only thing more lacking than world class players is world class managers

As an United fan, I would give Pochettino absurd amount of money to join us and let him have free reigns. I may be wrong, but he seems like a great manager and could get the best out of that squad.


Pay someone who has never won anything?

Yeah. He seems like he knows what's he doing and his team plays nice football.
I am not an expert since I haven't managed to watch a lot of games, but from what i've seen he seems like a good manager.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
March 17 2018 16:15 GMT
#4417
When Arsenal were playing the most beautiful football and not winning anything Arsene was called a loser. When Spurs do it the manager is good?

England is so weird haha
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28798 Posts
March 17 2018 17:18 GMT
#4418
arsenal went from being a premier league winning team to being a top 6 team, tottenham went from placing 11th-4th to getting third and second place for the first time in PL history, and without huge influx of external money.. There's nothing inconsistent here - even though Valencia and Real Madrid are pretty much neck to neck the current season of la liga, there's nothing weird about Valencia supporters being more happy about their performance than real madrid supporters are..
Moderator
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
March 17 2018 18:14 GMT
#4419
On March 18 2018 02:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:
arsenal went from being a premier league winning team to being a top 6 team, tottenham went from placing 11th-4th to getting third and second place for the first time in PL history, and without huge influx of external money.. There's nothing inconsistent here - even though Valencia and Real Madrid are pretty much neck to neck the current season of la liga, there's nothing weird about Valencia supporters being more happy about their performance than real madrid supporters are..


I am talking about 10 years ago and not the fans but neutrals. For neutrals where is the difference between Wenger 10 years ago and spurs manager now?
One won titles and was called a loser for top4. The other won nothing is called a good manager
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 19:17:24
March 17 2018 18:21 GMT
#4420
On March 18 2018 01:15 sharkie wrote:
When Arsenal were playing the most beautiful football and not winning anything Arsene was called a loser. When Spurs do it the manager is good?

England is so weird haha


Totenham was a midtable team that didn't qualified for CL before Pochetino. You can't compare it to Arsenal...

Simeone is a looser, he only won La Liga once this 6 years
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