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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 02:07:08
March 15 2018 00:06 GMT
#4341
On March 15 2018 06:13 fabiano wrote:
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
March 15 2018 01:12 GMT
#4342
On March 15 2018 07:38 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2018 07:28 N1E wrote:
He was the last man and it was a lot clearer than penalties they get when it's in their favour. Like Kroos' was much softer and he was on the edge of the box near the corner.

Then the game would have been 2-1. Then they would need to score 1 and concede 0 to qualify. But, sorry boys, UEFA is not on your sides and here get a yellow card just to make it even more impossible. Ah, and Barca dives and referees favouring them even in Chelsea's home also helped them bits. Of course it wasn't as disgraceful as that past scandal, but still cheat.


Please, can you stop talking about cheating every fucking match. It is so annoying.

Have you ever think that sometimes referees have mistakes (like players or coaches) and that every match is not a cheating conspiration?



A broken clock is right twice a day.

Not to say that the ref deliberately worked for Barca in the match, but you're delusional if you don't recognize the clear bias towards Barca there and in countless other instances. I 100% guarantee that would have been a PK if it had been for Barca.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 04:39:37
March 15 2018 01:29 GMT
#4343
On March 15 2018 10:12 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2018 07:38 haitike wrote:
On March 15 2018 07:28 N1E wrote:
He was the last man and it was a lot clearer than penalties they get when it's in their favour. Like Kroos' was much softer and he was on the edge of the box near the corner.

Then the game would have been 2-1. Then they would need to score 1 and concede 0 to qualify. But, sorry boys, UEFA is not on your sides and here get a yellow card just to make it even more impossible. Ah, and Barca dives and referees favouring them even in Chelsea's home also helped them bits. Of course it wasn't as disgraceful as that past scandal, but still cheat.


Please, can you stop talking about cheating every fucking match. It is so annoying.

Have you ever think that sometimes referees have mistakes (like players or coaches) and that every match is not a cheating conspiration?



A broken clock is right twice a day.

Not to say that the ref deliberately worked for Barca in the match, but you're delusional if you don't recognize the clear bias towards Barca there and in countless other instances. I 100% guarantee that would have been a PK if it had been for Barca.


But I considerer cheating "deliberately fixing the match". Of course referees have bias often for big clubs or home clubs.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 02:07:30
March 15 2018 02:03 GMT
#4344
On March 15 2018 10:12 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2018 07:38 haitike wrote:
On March 15 2018 07:28 N1E wrote:
He was the last man and it was a lot clearer than penalties they get when it's in their favour. Like Kroos' was much softer and he was on the edge of the box near the corner.

Then the game would have been 2-1. Then they would need to score 1 and concede 0 to qualify. But, sorry boys, UEFA is not on your sides and here get a yellow card just to make it even more impossible. Ah, and Barca dives and referees favouring them even in Chelsea's home also helped them bits. Of course it wasn't as disgraceful as that past scandal, but still cheat.


Please, can you stop talking about cheating every fucking match. It is so annoying.

Have you ever think that sometimes referees have mistakes (like players or coaches) and that every match is not a cheating conspiration?



A broken clock is right twice a day.

Not to say that the ref deliberately worked for Barca in the match, but you're delusional if you don't recognize the clear bias towards Barca there and in countless other instances. I 100% guarantee that would have been a PK if it had been for Barca.


Clear is a strong word, I think if you were to average it, between teams at the elite level it evens out, but no one wants to bother doing that because whatever feeds into the narrative we want to believe we acknowledge.

If people started habitually complaining about calls Barca dont get maybe the narrative would shift a little.. I dont know..
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2122 Posts
March 15 2018 06:57 GMT
#4345
I think the UCL round of 8 looks really strong this year. Sevilla and Roma are maybe expected to be a bit weaker than the rest and Liverpool can go from horrid to brilliant and back in a moment, but I don't think there will be any clear walk overs this year. Should be 4 exiting matchups.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18766 Posts
March 15 2018 08:07 GMT
#4346
On March 15 2018 11:03 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2018 10:12 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On March 15 2018 07:38 haitike wrote:
On March 15 2018 07:28 N1E wrote:
He was the last man and it was a lot clearer than penalties they get when it's in their favour. Like Kroos' was much softer and he was on the edge of the box near the corner.

Then the game would have been 2-1. Then they would need to score 1 and concede 0 to qualify. But, sorry boys, UEFA is not on your sides and here get a yellow card just to make it even more impossible. Ah, and Barca dives and referees favouring them even in Chelsea's home also helped them bits. Of course it wasn't as disgraceful as that past scandal, but still cheat.


Please, can you stop talking about cheating every fucking match. It is so annoying.

Have you ever think that sometimes referees have mistakes (like players or coaches) and that every match is not a cheating conspiration?



A broken clock is right twice a day.

Not to say that the ref deliberately worked for Barca in the match, but you're delusional if you don't recognize the clear bias towards Barca there and in countless other instances. I 100% guarantee that would have been a PK if it had been for Barca.


Clear is a strong word, I think if you were to average it, between teams at the elite level it evens out, but no one wants to bother doing that because whatever feeds into the narrative we want to believe we acknowledge.

If people started habitually complaining about calls Barca dont get maybe the narrative would shift a little.. I dont know..


I could show you countless posts of Barca fanboys complaining they dont calls when they lose a game, on teamliquid. It just happens rarely because Barca doesn't lose as much as other teams.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 08:26:53
March 15 2018 08:21 GMT
#4347
Vs Inter in Italy in 2010, and against Bayern in the 4-0, are two good examples where Barça got screwed but people didn't talk about it. Barça these last years haven't lost that much because they're usually superior enough to compensate for whatever injustice the referee would throw at them. At the very top level, where teams are at a similar level, a referee mistake can cost you the game, but on average, when you're doing everything you can on the pitch, you are rarely losing the game just because of the referee. There are obviously extreme cases (the f'in disgrace) but to say they are the fruit of a conspiracy is ridiculous.

I do agree that some referees might feel more pressured to make a decision against big teams like Barcelona, but that pressure isn't coming only from the club, it's from the lack of support referees get from the leagues/UEFA when things go bad. Nowadays, it's almost normal to see a referee suspended for a few months just because he cost some points to the big team. Players also complain far too much on a pitch, I'm always amazed at how Suarez doesn't end up every game with a red card. Not sure how to solve this given the money at stake for some of those clubs, they'll always blame referees just to try and get an advantage long term.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 15:45:52
March 15 2018 15:37 GMT
#4348
On March 15 2018 17:07 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2018 11:03 Rebs wrote:
On March 15 2018 10:12 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On March 15 2018 07:38 haitike wrote:
On March 15 2018 07:28 N1E wrote:
He was the last man and it was a lot clearer than penalties they get when it's in their favour. Like Kroos' was much softer and he was on the edge of the box near the corner.

Then the game would have been 2-1. Then they would need to score 1 and concede 0 to qualify. But, sorry boys, UEFA is not on your sides and here get a yellow card just to make it even more impossible. Ah, and Barca dives and referees favouring them even in Chelsea's home also helped them bits. Of course it wasn't as disgraceful as that past scandal, but still cheat.


Please, can you stop talking about cheating every fucking match. It is so annoying.

Have you ever think that sometimes referees have mistakes (like players or coaches) and that every match is not a cheating conspiration?



A broken clock is right twice a day.

Not to say that the ref deliberately worked for Barca in the match, but you're delusional if you don't recognize the clear bias towards Barca there and in countless other instances. I 100% guarantee that would have been a PK if it had been for Barca.


Clear is a strong word, I think if you were to average it, between teams at the elite level it evens out, but no one wants to bother doing that because whatever feeds into the narrative we want to believe we acknowledge.

If people started habitually complaining about calls Barca dont get maybe the narrative would shift a little.. I dont know..


I could show you countless posts of Barca fanboys complaining they dont calls when they lose a game, on teamliquid. It just happens rarely because Barca doesn't lose as much as other teams.


Go ahead.. should be easy since they are countless

Also its not just not getting calls when you lose, its also not getting calls when they win. At the end of the day if teams are good enough, they make enough opportunities.

On March 15 2018 17:21 WillyWanker wrote:
I'm always amazed at how Suarez doesn't end up every game with a red card. Not sure how to solve this given the money at stake for some of those clubs, they'll always blame referees just to try and get an advantage long term.


it is a bit old now, and he always does that annoying thing where he counts down on his fingers everytime hes been fouled upto that point. And yeah the last couple of yeras even Messi has started to develop a bit more of an attitude compared to before, he gets in the refs face alot now too.

I guess a lifetime of getting kicked non stop will do that to anyone but still, does take away from the first decade or so of him just putting his head down and moving on from nearly every hit.



sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
March 15 2018 15:56 GMT
#4349
It isn't about getting kicked non stop, it is lack of consequences. The only player that consistently gets booked for dissent is Morata, everyone else just is allowed to crowd the ref all game long.
Just start booking everyone for it and it will end very quickly, fucks sake they even try to argue after VAR usage.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 15:58:56
March 15 2018 15:58 GMT
#4350
On March 16 2018 00:56 sneirac wrote:
It isn't about getting kicked non stop, it is lack of consequences. The only player that consistently gets booked for dissent is Morata, everyone else just is allowed to crowd the ref all game long.
Just start booking everyone for it and it will end very quickly, fucks sake they even try to argue after VAR usage.


I agree, I think Ive mentioned this before aswell, just book everyone and start suspending people for accumulating them. The only way to change that sort of culture is to have serious consequences. Even fine are pointless. They have to miss games or something that affects them enough to care.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 15 2018 19:35 GMT
#4351
They dubbed it the Costa card in premier league last year and Costa got it like twice and tbf hardly moaned much. Morata gets it every game he plays, yet others get away with it, weird. But we all know FA hate Chelsea :3
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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
March 15 2018 20:45 GMT
#4352
Disgusting dive by Welbeck.
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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 20:55:04
March 15 2018 20:54 GMT
#4353
On March 16 2018 05:45 SoSexy wrote:
Disgusting dive by Welbeck.

https://www.clippituser.tv/c/yrkkan

I'm not sure even cheating offside toni Kroos could have sold that better
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 21:01:30
March 15 2018 21:01 GMT
#4354
How on earth was that called, It's not even a good dive.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
March 15 2018 21:21 GMT
#4355
And now this was penalty. Milan is being robbed.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 15 2018 21:50 GMT
#4356
WELÉ
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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
March 15 2018 21:56 GMT
#4357
don't think there are bad enough words to describe this BVB performance/result
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18766 Posts
March 15 2018 21:58 GMT
#4358
I don't mind being out of Europa League. I'd rather finish #2 than win it. Better to stabilise it
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
March 15 2018 22:04 GMT
#4359
Okay. They still lost over two legs against RedBull Salzburg. There is no excuse for that
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 00:34:22
March 16 2018 00:31 GMT
#4360
UEFALONA was born in 2009 and died when Neymar joined (hence why Madrid won their 3 CLs recently). It's now reborn. It's predictable.

And lifetime of getting kicked? You just described Neymar, not Blatter boys who can barely be touched (and sometimes not even) and referees reacts strongly.
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