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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10129 Posts
November 16 2017 04:09 GMT
#2421
I cant believe it!!!!! Holy shit... after 36 years
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4025 Posts
November 16 2017 06:39 GMT
#2422
On November 16 2017 13:03 DaCruise wrote:
Nice. So with Peru likely making it the list of teams is complete.

Possible group of death?

-Germany
-Spain
-Senegal
-Japan/Serbia

Or maybe:

-Brasil
-Spain
-Denmark
-Japan/serbia


Can’t have serbia in 4th spot there, only 2 euro countries per group allowed.

The pots seem quite decent this time around, i don’t think there will be crazy groups of death this time around. Brazil, Spain, Denmark, Japan is the strongest possibility, I think, but even then there are 2 clear favorites. I think teams from pots 1&2 are nearly always favorites vs pots 3&4, something that wasn’t always the case in the past (are fifa rankings improving?). Bookies only have Peru outside top16 to win it.

There could be some really weak groups though: Russia, Peru, Iran, Panama is probably one of the weakest.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18486 Posts
November 16 2017 08:09 GMT
#2423
On November 16 2017 12:25 DaCruise wrote:
So apparently the US is looking for possibilities to host a "B" World Cup this summer for some of the teams that didnt qualify. Good luck with that.

Wouldn't FIFA shut that down pronto? Also, who cares? Who exactly is interested in "the best of the rest"? Even if Netherlands is in the latter cup, I'll still be more interested in the actual world cup. It was our failure to qualify and a losers cup has even less appeal than the match for 3rd place: at least if you win that you're 3rd. If you win the loser's cup you're what? 33rd? :'D
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
November 16 2017 08:10 GMT
#2424
do non-world cup teams even get the chance to play any fixtures during the world cup period?
Commentator
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18767 Posts
November 16 2017 08:40 GMT
#2425
On November 16 2017 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2017 12:25 DaCruise wrote:
So apparently the US is looking for possibilities to host a "B" World Cup this summer for some of the teams that didnt qualify. Good luck with that.

Wouldn't FIFA shut that down pronto? Also, who cares? Who exactly is interested in "the best of the rest"? Even if Netherlands is in the latter cup, I'll still be more interested in the actual world cup. It was our failure to qualify and a losers cup has even less appeal than the match for 3rd place: at least if you win that you're 3rd. If you win the loser's cup you're what? 33rd? :'D


I have seen many times that the match for 3rd place is "meaningless". But why do people say that in football? There are matches for bronze in other sports too and I never saw them labeled as useless. Also SF finish is not celebrated as much as 3rd place finish.

Why is 3rd place meaningless in football?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-16 08:51:00
November 16 2017 08:50 GMT
#2426
World cup complete! Gz peru!

Draw is in 2 weeks Friday, should be another exciting installment :D

Also no more internationals now until March 2018! Time to focus on those domestic games <3 wooop
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18486 Posts
November 16 2017 11:04 GMT
#2427
On November 16 2017 17:40 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2017 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
On November 16 2017 12:25 DaCruise wrote:
So apparently the US is looking for possibilities to host a "B" World Cup this summer for some of the teams that didnt qualify. Good luck with that.

Wouldn't FIFA shut that down pronto? Also, who cares? Who exactly is interested in "the best of the rest"? Even if Netherlands is in the latter cup, I'll still be more interested in the actual world cup. It was our failure to qualify and a losers cup has even less appeal than the match for 3rd place: at least if you win that you're 3rd. If you win the loser's cup you're what? 33rd? :'D


I have seen many times that the match for 3rd place is "meaningless". But why do people say that in football? There are matches for bronze in other sports too and I never saw them labeled as useless. Also SF finish is not celebrated as much as 3rd place finish.

Why is 3rd place meaningless in football?

I dunno. Unlike the olympics, nobody ever counts second or third places for football world cups. You're either the winner, or one of the losers. Why is it like that? I don't know. It just is. Same for other football tournaments. Hell, CL doesn't even have a match to decide third place (nor do national cups).
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
November 16 2017 12:37 GMT
#2428
Normally the 3rd place match the underdogs win against the better team. The team that expected to go to final and win it, that was knockout don't have any motivation. The small country that surprised everyone reaching so fare is full of pride and enjoyment and wins the match.

GO OG
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 16 2017 12:37 GMT
#2429
Going back to spurs for a sec and them about to get eaten alive in the summer

Jorge Mendes is the frontrunner to sign Dele Alli to his agency Gestifute, Sky Sports News understands.

So...good old Mendes aka Mourinho's bff. Wonder what that will do!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2122 Posts
November 16 2017 13:02 GMT
#2430
Guardian has some weird World Cup draw simulator if someone wants to shuffle the groups around and see potential combinations.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/16/world-cup-finals-create-your-own-draw-for-russia-2018-interactive

Seems a bit clunky, but provides some amusement nevertheless.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
November 16 2017 13:37 GMT
#2431
seems legit
[image loading]
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 16 2017 13:39 GMT
#2432
Haha thanks for that was good fun, i got some stupid ass bracket results though lol. Group draw makes sense but they predict some right silly crap for the bracket XD

+ Show Spoiler [Groups] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Bracket] +
[image loading]
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18767 Posts
November 16 2017 13:55 GMT
#2433
Argentina, Mexico, Denmark, Nigeria sounds like a group of death
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2122 Posts
November 16 2017 14:06 GMT
#2434
On November 16 2017 22:37 sneirac wrote:
seems legit

One of my first draws had England winning the whole thing...
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-16 14:10:10
November 16 2017 14:09 GMT
#2435
Lol England.

[image loading]
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 16 2017 14:15 GMT
#2436
On November 16 2017 22:37 sneirac wrote:
seems legit
[image loading]


out of my 5 draw's Portugal won thrice, Poland once and Peru once.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 16 2017 14:15 GMT
#2437
Haha probs legit tbh, we would go all out to play well vs Argentina, get a draw vs them matchday 1. To then draw mathday 2 to Saudi Arabia big wall. Then lose to Tunisia 1-0 haha xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10129 Posts
November 16 2017 14:19 GMT
#2438
On November 16 2017 22:39 Pandemona wrote:
Haha thanks for that was good fun, i got some stupid ass bracket results though lol. Group draw makes sense but they predict some right silly crap for the bracket XD

+ Show Spoiler [Groups] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Bracket] +
[image loading]

i dont have any problem with group A
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 16 2017 15:11 GMT
#2439
What bothers me personally the most is that the European and SA qualifier draws look way scarier than actually winning the World Cup itself..
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 16 2017 15:32 GMT
#2440
On November 16 2017 15:39 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2017 13:03 DaCruise wrote:
Nice. So with Peru likely making it the list of teams is complete.

Possible group of death?

-Germany
-Spain
-Senegal
-Japan/Serbia

Or maybe:

-Brasil
-Spain
-Denmark
-Japan/serbia


Can’t have serbia in 4th spot there, only 2 euro countries per group allowed.

The pots seem quite decent this time around, i don’t think there will be crazy groups of death this time around. Brazil, Spain, Denmark, Japan is the strongest possibility, I think, but even then there are 2 clear favorites. I think teams from pots 1&2 are nearly always favorites vs pots 3&4, something that wasn’t always the case in the past (are fifa rankings improving?). Bookies only have Peru outside top16 to win it.

There could be some really weak groups though: Russia, Peru, Iran, Panama is probably one of the weakest.

The world rankings are far from perfect, but until this world cup, the pots only had eight seeded teams (based on world rankings in the recent editions), with the remaining 3 pots only based on geography. I the apparent improvement is due to the rather sensible decision to make more use of the rankings, and not necessarily a sign of the rankings itself improving.
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